2014 Baseball Silver Dollars Back on Sale

baseballIn a surprise move, the United States Mint has resumed accepting orders for the 2014 National Baseball Hall of Fame Silver Dollars. These coins have been unavailable to order since April when a sell out was declared.

The additional coins now available for sale are the result of orders placed by customers prior to the sell out but cancelled due to payment issues. The combined maximum mintage for the silver dollars remains at the same level of 400,000 pieces across the proof and uncirculated versions.

The Baseball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coins went on sale March 27, 2014. The US Mint had received orders meeting the maximum mintage of 400,000 units on April 9. Orders continued to be accepted for placement on a waiting list until April 21 when a sell out was declared.

According to a statement released by the Mint, “The Mint cancelled all orders that could not be fulfilled due to payment issues, after  giving those customers every opportunity to provide updated credit card information for possible fulfillment.    These credit card cancellations made additional Baseball Hall of Fame silver dollar proof and uncirculated inventory available.”

The proof silver dollars are priced at $56.95 and the uncirculated silver dollars are priced at $52.95. There is an ordering limit of 100 units per household. The coins will remain available for sale until the mintage limit of 400,000 is reached or until December 31, 2014 12:00 Noon ET, whichever comes first.

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  1. DB says

    Shouldn’t these be considered Early Release or First Strike since they were produced or already made for sale yet unable to be delivered during March 27th to April 21st time frame when it was declared sold out by the mint??

  2. wdwms says

    Early Release/First Strike? come on.. its a scam and we all know it. Commands $$ with false impression that they were “first” off the line. What a joke…

  3. AzDan says

    Thank-you. I missed out when they were first offered and had a chance to pick several up now. Any chance the gold versions will be available?

  4. Boz says

    So how come not offered to those who were on the wit list and got sorry charlied? Just because there are new vendors and new websites working for the mint is no reason to stick it to loyal customers who followed the rules.

  5. says

    The household limit for these additional HOF silver coins is a whopping 100. Are you kidding me? It sounds like they have a tremendous quantity on hand to sell. There must have been one helluva lot of cancelled orders because of payment issues. Or, is the Mint not telling us that many of these are returns?

  6. Scott says

    I agree with Hawkster, the FS/ER hype is ridiculous. My guess is some of these BHOF coins are probably unsold inventory from the mint’s gift shops. Who knows how many of these coins may have been in storage at each gift shop location. It’s hard to believe they’ve been on hold for customers since April.

  7. gary says

    With hardly any doubt, these additional coins contain rejects from the turd party graders. Great news for anybody who missed out on these, but so much for the Mint’s credibility as to when the time to order window is shut. I suppose they are within their right to do so but it does put the screw to collectors who may have figured that the “mintage” or issuance was a done number.

  8. Ralph says

    Gary@ The Mint has done this before. One that comes to mind was in 2003. It was the Alabama spoon. The Mint listed it as “sold out” and the price jumped to around $90 on ebay. Shortly after, the Mint re-releases the spoon. Buyers who paid $90 got it stuck to them bad!
    Thanks again US Mint!

  9. Ends in Error says

    I just ordered 5 Proofs and a BU – they immediately go to ” being processed”.
    Wow that’s quicker service than Amazon puts out.

  10. Ends in Error says

    PS. This may be the Mints way of distributed those “accidental ” errors that they’ve been stockpiling for a late release.

  11. Ends in Error says

    PS. This may be the Mints way of distributing those “accidental ” errors that they’ve been stockpiling for a late release.

  12. VA Bob says

    We now know what happened to the coins that didn’t grade 69 or higher. The big dealers are recouping their losses. Best of luck to those testing the waters.

  13. says

    JBK,
    Instead of labeling these surplus HOF coins “9th inning release”, as you suggest, may I propose “extra innings release”. Yeah, the games labeling companies play. It just goes on and on.

  14. fmtransmitter says

    gary says
    DECEMBER 16, 2014 AT 4:09 PM

    With hardly any doubt, these additional coins contain rejects from the turd party graders. Great news for anybody who missed out on these, but so much for the Mint’s credibility as to when the time to order window is shut. I suppose they are within their right to do so but it does put the screw to collectors who may have figured that the “mintage” or issuance was a done number.

    To add to that, which was dead on gary, is that I expect this to become the norm with the new fulfillment center.

  15. fmtransmitter says

    So how hard is it to put the SOLD OUT symbol up when you go to Mint website, go to medals, go to FS and scan down and NOT see it for the 2014 but go to click on it, because I am looking to see if it was a mistake or whatever, and find out it is sold out FOR GOOD. Waiting on those to go back in stock now..

  16. cagcrisp says

    The Hard numbers from the Mint did not Match the excel spreadsheet for the following:

    Precious Metal Products PF2 2014 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 5,908 N
    Precious Metal Products PF3 2014 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/4 OZ 6,000 N
    Precious Metal Products PF4 2014 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/10 OZ 14,000 N
    Precious Metal Products PF5 2014 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 8,851 N

  17. Chuck says

    Off topic: Looks like they’re sold out (maybe).

    Special Collectibles TA9 2014 AMERICAN $1 COIN & CURRENCY SET 50,000 N

  18. cagcrisp says

    @GoldFishin, My investment in the XLE is Down 1.82% since I got in. Not bad considering oil is down 11.48% since I got in. OIL is down 9.51 in that same period…

  19. jeff says

    Still a winner, mints lost all creditability, guess it’s GREED, SABATOSED THE HOBBY. US MINTS WORD ARE MEANINGLESS FROM NOW ON. MINT LOST A COLLECTOR AND CUSTOMER WITH THIS PRANK LOW LIFES.

  20. jeff says

    This is a warning to all collectors from here on. The mint WILL reinstated any issue that mintages are not meet BAD PRESIDENT THEY JUST SET .

  21. jeff says

    Can anyone say why the BHOF and not any other issuance. Why not the HAWAII 5OZ. WHY NOT THE 2008 UHR GOLD 1 oz. This makes the mint look worse than the PERTH MINT

  22. cagcrisp says

    The Mint was Mandated by Congress to Sell 50,000 Gold BHOF coins. They were Mandated by Congress to Sell 400,000 Silver BHOF coins.

    There were a Total of 3,566 Available for Sale Starting today at Noon. That’s .89% of the Total Mandated. Not Exactly an Earth Shattering Number.

    The Mint DID what Congress Mandated and I applaud them for doing what Congress Mandated…

  23. stephen m says

    I have to agree with Boz. The wait list should have gotten the coins before they were offered for sale on the Mint site.

  24. mark says

    just sent from the Mint….

    Order Update
    Dear United States Mint Customer:
    We are contacting you regarding the order you placed for the American $1 Coin and Currency Set.

    Due to overwhelming demand, the product reached its production limit in sales quickly. The United States Mint accepted a limited number of orders on a waiting list in the event that products became available due to order cancellations. Waiting list orders are not guaranteed and are only fulfilled if inventory becomes available.

    At this time, we can only confirm that your order is on the waiting list. As we continue to process orders for the American $1 Coin and Currency Set, there may be cancellations that allow us to fulfill some portion of the waiting list orders. Although you may have received an order confirmation and backorder communications, these should not have been taken as a guarantee that your order would be fulfilled. If you no longer would like the American $1 Coin and Currency Set you may request to have your wait listed order cancelled.

    Should we be able to fulfill your order, you will receive a shipping confirmation notification from us once your order has been shipped. If your order will not be processed, you will receive an order cancellation notification confirming this when your order is cancelled from our system.

    We hope you will continue to support the United States Mint’s numismatics programs.

  25. hw says

    That USMint waiting list message that was posted at PCGS.com pertained to an order that was made on 12/14/14.

  26. Erik H says

    The mint can’t sell commemoratives past Dec. 31st. So if nobody bites they will not reach 400k.

  27. VA Bob says

    Bob R – If they are returns (as I suspect) they might all ready be damaged. I don’t believe these are fresh strikes. They might be good for someone that is less concerned about perfect or near perfect condition, but if one is (and already has an example(s) for their collection) I’d recommend staying away from these. Just my opinion.

  28. Bob R says

    @VA Bob, you are correct, but the mint is playing this game to make a few bucks after screwing so many over the spring and summer with the delays. Again two can and should play this game against them. IMO

  29. says

    VaBob,
    I agree with you in that these are mostly returns. Buyers of this surplus batch of HOF coins are basically getting “as in new condition” specimens.

  30. GoldFishin says

    @VA BOB- I found my “modern version” of Liberty. My son introduced me to this acoustic version of a song from a modern electronic dance band. The lead singer has all the attributes. beauty, and elegance that I would like to see in a modernized lady liberty. I think she is just edgy enough to be considered modern, however if you look closely, you will see she really could pass as a traditional liberty as well. I love her facial profile and if liberty could sing….well, this would be how she would sing in my mind. There is another song called “Miracle” that is really nice as well. If you can, watch and listen to it on your big screen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd1mRXkwUrA&index=6&list=PL6RLee9oArCBU_x_3pdXKUb1K0LuHWr8w

  31. Bob R says

    Good link cagcrisp My RUSS closed yesterday at $48 and change, opened above $55 the ran up to $64 and change before pulling below $40, the finding a range between $43 and $51. The Dow played down over 100, then up 250, then down over 100, I don’t like this.

  32. Tinto says

    @ VA Bob

    I also think these are probably rejects …. how can the Mint wait since 21 April when they announced a sell out until the week of 15 or 16 of December (almost EIGHT months later) to give so called buyers a chance to update their credit cards??? Pigs got wings and fly. They must think regular collectors are so gullible (and brain dead) to believe that crap and that our opinions (and buying power) don’t mean a hoot in the Mint’s big scheme of things which is to kiss up to the big buyers.

    In the future how can any body who’s a collector believe the Mint’s word?

  33. VA Bob says

    GoldFishin – I really never equated in my mind with Lady Liberty singing, but now that you mention it this lady seems ideal. As a dirty old man, I wouldn’t mind taking some “liberties” 🙂 , don’t tell the wife! She would make a decent model. I think much of it would be in the long flowing hair. Thanks for the link.

  34. mac says

    So, they were authorized to sell 400,000 of these, and they’re proceeding to do that. It wasn’t some sort of secret; heck, it was in the authorizing legislation. If we thought they had a full sellout before, that means that we were already under the assumption that that mintage had been reached. So what’s your beef? That you bet wrong on the coin as an investment and it’s somehow the mint’s fault?

  35. Alfred E. Numismatic says

    Where was everyone when this was all posted on two previous threads this AM? Get over it.

  36. jhawk92 says

    For folks who stack silver, with the drop yesterday and today, it is tempting to add some. I get some bullion ASEs every year and several sites have the 2015 Eagles on preorder. I know part of the drop can be attributed to the concern of the Fed raising interest rates. Do folks think it would be prudent to wait for the Fed news later this week as pricing might drop on a rate increase? I wouldn’t be buying a ton, but nice to lower my average cost from when I bought with spot in the $40s.

  37. Ends in Error says

    I will probably return all my HOF Silver coins ordered today even if they would happen to be OK – which I really believe will not be the case.

    The thing that pees me off is the reappearace of the Platinum Proof. As soon as I get the one that arrived at the PO today – it will experience a rapid turnaround.

    Stick it Mint. Stick it.

  38. Dave SW FL says

    Ok, my C&C shipment is now in day 12 and still stuck in PA somewhere. So I called mint CS and was told “Sorry Charlie! We have a contract with FedEx for smartPost shipping, BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO CONTACT THEM,!!!

    Reeeeeeeally??? Yea, really. So what happens when I leave OH after waiting 17 days without delivery – will you ship it is to my FL address? Well, sir, we just refund your credit card.

    Oh, grrrrrrrr. I get 3 weeks of frustration for $4.95 of MY money and no coin and now it is sold out.

    And they can’t figure out how to re ship it? Well guess what? I will just wait until next December when it goes back up for sale like the BHOF.

    I AM SO DONE WITH THE US MINT. My local coin dealer will be smiling, but it is my only way to tell the Feds “SCREW YOU!!”

    I will still lurk here & Collectors Universe for info, but the mint is so done.

    End of rant

  39. GoldFishin says

    @VA BOB- LOL….Bob, the album is quite nice as a romantic back drop….you could always get together with the wife and play it in the background…..just saying. 😉

  40. VA Bob says

    Tinto – If it were a matter of someone missing the first go around with the BHOF, I’d be happy for those getting a second chance. Thing is the silvers were available long enough, anyone that wanted one had ample opportunity. If there was anyone on the wait list, as others said, they should have got first crack. Seeing the length of availability though I can’t see there even being a waiting list.

    This kind of reminds me of the “special” 2012 San Fran ASE set, which Mint promptly make available in another set. Sure, we all know they were authorized to make 400K (doesn’t mean they have to, 100K too much IMO), just seems fishy after all this time. I can only imagine the returns sat, until they could be unboxed and repackaged after the move. I don’t like returns being reshipped to unsuspecting customers. They should be labeled as such (or culls) before offering them if that is the case.

    That said, this small amount won’t drastically alter the appreciation of the silver BHoF, which was IMO all ready hurt by the high mintage. This coin was a speculators/flippers dream and they bought them in droves. They will be available in adequate supply for years to come. My position is clear, I don’t believe the Mint (or the bill announcement) should pre announce final mintages, even if known. It would cut down on the speculation immensely. Would we really want the Mint to make the maximum CR coins, knowing they won’t sell? Of course not.

  41. Larry says

    Seems there is just no rhyme or reason to how the mint does things. Silver BHOF sold out, now it isn’t. Maybe they just found a bunch laying around. Doesn’t really matter to me, I love the coin anyway. But it is strange. C&C set is also strange. I still don’t understand why they couldn’t take orders for all 50K, and when they were all sold, say “hey, they are all sold”, instead of “hey, you can buy some now, now you can’t, now you can, now you can’t. In the words of Wally Cleaver “that’s goofy Beave”.
    The mints survey is also strange. There is a question asking your satisfaction level with your last order. If you answer anything but extremely satisfied, they want to know why. Even if you were one notch less than extremely satisfied, they want to know why. Hey, one notch less than extremely satisfied is still really satisfied. Very strange survey.
    Wondering about the quality of the first shipments of C&C coins compared to recent shipments. I ordered one this first day, and it looks perfect. I ordered two the second time they were available and not so good. Each one had a mark of some kind on the obverse. Reverse looks perfect, though. I will keep them anyway, not worth sending back at 14 bucks apiece.

  42. Bob R says

    @cagcrisp IMO the price fluctuations in gold is not Russia selling gold, but rather world markets nervous with recession and Russia in a panic to hold currency. The Russian population is spending all their money buying Apple phone’s,Samsung tv’s, anything they can buy worth and value before their currency crashes further. Maybe this will help pull the gold and silver markets down further, look for “blood in the street”.

  43. Bob R says

    The latest mint survey is about as lame as my last survey with McDonalds, my girls order for Happy Meals, the only difference is with McD I get a free 1/4 pounder, that’s beef, not gold.

  44. Tinto says

    @VA Bob

    Yeah I don’t think there is a waiting list either … given the almost 8 months since the so called “sell out”, those that missed the boat then and really wanted one probably would have bought them from the resellers/dealers/Ebay a long time ago and during the baseball season I’d think. That the Mint would spring this late surprise and to use such a flimsy excuse like we waited months for some folks’ CC info to clear just doesn’t cut it … sort of like “the dog ate my homework” .. which leads me to ask how long can one keep such financial transactions open ? And if these were iffy how can they declare a sell out without knowing if there will be a sale, was it part of the overall hype to declare a quick sellout? That they have to sell the mandated 400k by year end is not the issue here IMO

    That 2012 Special set did leave a sour taste. I cut back after that and am deciding if I should cut back drastically after the 2015 US Marshals and UHR (??),

  45. jimb says

    Since I missed getting a proof earlier I just placed an order for one. Happy to set the unc. And PLEASE give me a break on the 1st strike early release crap.

  46. jeff says

    Mints definition of SOLD OUT if total mintage is not meet we will resume selling product at a later day LMMFAO. Does anyone thing the mint strikes maximum mintages for every coin, hell no however now they will. So hold your breath when you buy a so called limited issue it probably will come up for sell later in the year. SOLD OUT IS MEANINGLESS WILL RUIN THE MODERN COIN COLLECTOR ONLY BECAUSE THE MINT CAN NOT BE TRUSTED EXPECT MORE SHANNAGAN IN THE FUTURE.

  47. The Real "Cool" Dave says

    Seriously, I am going to see if I can somehow get NGC to designate some items I am sending to them, as “Last Strike” OR “Last Releases.”

    Why not? Surely if there can be “First Strikes,” there then has to be an end right?

  48. The Real "Cool" Dave says

    I have an order which has been “Processing” since the 5th and has been charged to my card; however not shipped yet.

    Then I have another order that shipped on the 12th, FED EX “Smart Post” and I have been tracking it, only to see it going all over the U.S., hell, I half expect it to also process through Canada before I receive it!

  49. Peter says

    My smartpostst delivery scheduled for today just got bumped to Saturday. However, yesterday AM, I ordered “Snap Circuits Extreme” for my son from Amazon. It’s a cool educational toy. During checkout process I signed up for free 30 day prime. With that my order will be delivered tomorrow UPS ground.

  50. Mark Rex says

    I see the points in all sides. Selling 4k more of a 396k/400k mintage won’t hurt long term value, just short term. I haven’t really checked OGP prices lately but after fees I don’t think it carried much profit anyhow right now. I think that will sell out by XMas. Some say cull, return, junk but think if maybe they already did that and got rid of theses but instead during the move fund Box A001 or a nice batch run in the move from IN to Mempis. That be nice , eh ? I mean I doubt it but stranger things have happened.

    I also thought if I had the extra excess cash to order some regardless but I’m poor and can’t. Either I send then all back due to spite or bad quality. Replace better grades from the new and old then return the olds. Buy regardless to hold for years then flip. I think it will take 1-2 years to get to $100, maybe double in 3-5 years. Worth the risk for a potentail 63% gain in 1-2 years, worst I think possible. would be $0. Not a pro filler yet but I’m a collector first and I’ve been researching, dabbling and getting into to help fund stuff for me and baby daughter Abby who’s 2 and loves coin. Can’t touch that one yet! I think there are things that can beat that 63% ROR and quicker.

    Some thoughts are labels; PCGS Last Pitch, Last Strike, Lost Batch
    NGC Closing Day, Final Releases, Closing Pitch
    The names except PCGS and NGC are from this moment trademarked by me. I direct PCGS and NGC to email to discuss sales of trademarks.

    Any word on when the first 2015 MS ATB 5 oz pucks will be coming out? If silver goes down or even stay the same – I couldn’t think of a better bang for the buck. P would be good to if goes to $125-$130. Earlier In 2014 $140 was great.

    Wish I would and got more TA9 sooner and flipped those quickly. There value rose quick the lowered quickly. Hard to pridict where this one will be in 1-2 years? If they don’t make another clad EU for at least 2 years then I could see the case for $100 OGP. Wish they could of inscribed the $1 Note serial number into the side of the coin – would be so neat and add so much value to already special coin. I know I would try to build range sets lol. Would of probably cost more but worth it. Only 50k of the first EU coin is going to be a winner long time esp OGP unless 70s pop up. I could see $100 or $30. Depends on how many were bought from the Mint to flip. At least 1 person or company bought 5k, bet 5-10 bought 1k and hundreds bought 100-500. A lot bought 20-50. I think the minority may of bought less than 20 with the intent to collect and gift; the others mostly to flip. As long as big buyers have weak hands and flood / uncut the market as it is now. Congregants to those that did it early on and got 90%+ ROR in 1-4 weeks.

    Mind blowing – YC1, the Coin Discovery Set — An Introduction to Coin Collecting went on sale and is on backorder until 12/19. Sh*tty planing and exuction there – someone needs fired. For me alone I wouldn’t mind to own quite a few of them. Mostly gifts to some younger family for XMas to at least try to get them interested into coins/money (saving, spending), nusmatics, collecting (of any kind) and or history. One for my girl (2y7m), my boy (9 months now) and me. Another cool thing about them is supposedly you can store proof sets in them. I’ve been buying Silver State Quarters Proof Sets lately when I could them for the same as kjunk or close. I see now until 12/21 you get normally $18 shipping for $10 (save $8). If they even process the order and ship by 12/19 with $5 SmartPost you’ll be lucky to get it by Jan 1st especially with the holidays. Even if you pay the $10 for expedites shipping it says 2-3 business days so that’s 12/24 or 12/24

    see the points in all sides. Selling 4k more of a 396k/400k mintage won’t hurt long term value, just short term. I haven’t really checked OGP prices lately but after fees I don’t think it carried much profit anyhow right now. I think that will sell out by XMas. Some say cull, return, junk but think if maybe they already did that and got rid of theses but instead during the move fund Box A001 or a nice batch run in the move from IN to Mempis. That be nice , eh ? I mean I doubt it but stranger things have happened.

    I also thought if I had the extra excess cash to order some regardless but I’m poor and can’t. Either I send then all back due to spite or bad quality. Replace better grades from the new and old then return the olds. Buy regardless to hold for years then flip. I think it will take 1-2 years to get to $100, maybe double in 3-5 years. Worth the risk for a potentail 63% gain in 1-2 years, worst I think possible. would be $0. Not a pro filler yet but I’m a collector first and I’ve been researching, dabbling and getting into to help fund stuff for me and baby daughter Abby who’s 2 and loves coin. Can’t touch that one yet! I think there are things that can beat that 63% ROR and quicker.

    Some thoughts are labels; PCGS Last Pitch, Last Strike, Lost Batch
    NGC Closing Day, Final Releases, Closing Pitch
    The names except PCGS and NGC are from this moment trademarked by me. I direct PCGS and NGC to email to discuss sales of trademarks.

    Any word on when the first 2015 MS ATB 5 oz pucks will be coming out? If silver goes down or even stay the same – I couldn’t think of a better bang for the buck. P would be good to if goes to $125-$130. Earlier In 2014 $140 was great.

    Wish I would and got more TA9 sooner and flipped those quickly. There value rose quick the lowered quickly. Hard to pridict where this one will be in 1-2 years? If they don’t make another clad EU for at least 2 years then I could see the case for $100 OGP. Wish they could of inscribed the $1 Note serial number into the side of the coin – would be so neat and add so much value to already special coin. I know I would try to build range sets lol. Would of probably cost more but worth it. Only 50k of the first EU coin is going to be a winner long time esp OGP unless 70s pop up. I could see $100 or $30. Depends on how many were bought from the Mint to flip. At least 1 person or company bought 5k, bet 5-10 bought 1k and hundreds bought 100-500. A lot bought 20-50. I think the minority may of bought less than 20 with the intent to collect and gift; the others mostly to flip. As long as big buyers have weak hands and flood / uncut the market as it is now. Congregants to those that did it early on and got 90%+ ROR in 1-4 weeks.

    Mind blowing – YC1, the Coin Discovery Set — An Introduction to Coin Collecting went on sale and is on backorder until 12/19. Sh*tty planing and exuction there – someone needs fired. For me alone I wouldn’t mind to own quite a few of them. Mostly gifts to some younger family for XMas to at least try to get them interested into coins/money (saving, spending), nusmatics, collecting (of any kind) and or history. One for my girl (2y7m), my boy (9 months now) and me. Another cool thing about them is supposedly you can store proof sets in them. I’ve been buying Silver State Quarters lately when I could get them for near or close to 90% junk. I see that have $8 off 2-3 business day shipping so it’s now $10 for that. So even if you do that and they start processing orders on the Backordered date of 12-19 your going to be lucky to get it in time 12/23-24. Not sure if they even process and ship same day and if UPS 2nd Day Air (expedited shipping) even picks up from them on Sat 12/20. With holiday mail it could be risky if your shooting for XMas. So I’m at least passing until I order my 1-2 sets of the TR C&C sets comes out on 12/23 – backorder date 4/2/15 lol).

    Sorry for long post, it’s been a while. Been up all night clang sleep. Wrote this on the phone so excuse the grammar typos. It auto thinks for me and I’m tired.

  51. Jsm says

    Ti nto- I don’t follow platinum proof. Is the mint playing the out of stock game with this too. If so, the mint is once again allowing the public to be duped into paying inflated prices for coins. Unbelievable.

  52. thePhelps says

    I’m not sure I understand the anger… or even why it is a problem for anyone. The mint is directed to sell 400,000 BHoF silver dollars. They attempted to sale those and had contracts with buyers for the entire 400k and for whatever reason the last 4,000 coins remain unclaimed. So they relist them… big deal – it changed nothing for those who purchased the coins already and is an opportunity for those who haven’t.

    It affects my purchase – not at all. It changes the value of the coins – not at all. SO what is the point of getting upset about it – there is none.

  53. cagcrisp says

    @thePhelps, AGREE…

    This was just posted by the Mint on their FB page:
    Attention coin enthusiasts! We’re currently taking orders for the 2014 National Baseball Hall of Fame Proof and Uncirculated Silver Dollars. Since you may be wondering how this silver stunner is back on sale after we announced a sell-out on April 21, we wanted to provide a recap:

    • The 2014 National Baseball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coins went on sale on March 27, 2014.
    • Legislation for this commemorative coin program authorizes the United States Mint to issue up to 400,000 silver dollars with proof and uncirculated finishes. We received orders totaling the maximum mintage of 400,000 units by April 9.
    • Beginning April 9, we began allowing customers to place additional orders in the event inventory from cancellations or returns became available. Customers were notified that orders placed after April 9 at 5 p.m. ET were considered to be on a wait list and not guaranteed to be fulfilled.
    • On April 21, we stopped accepting wait-list orders and declared a sellout of the National Baseball Hall of Fame Silver Dollars. We cancelled all orders that could not be fulfilled due to payment issues, after giving those customers every opportunity to provide updated credit card information for possible fulfillment. These credit card cancellations made additional Baseball Hall of Fame silver dollar proof and uncirculated inventory available.

    Here’s some important info if you’re thinking about ordering today:
    • The household order limit is 100 units each. Please note that we are monitoring sales and this limit may be adjusted or lifted.
    • The silver dollars will remain on sale until the mintage limit of 400,000 is reached or noon EST on December 31, 2014, whichever comes first.
    • You can order online at http://1.usa.gov/1yVCHFO or call us at 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468).

  54. stephen m says

    @The Phelps and cagcrisp, I’m happy, But it is unusual, And either of you know what happened to the returns?

  55. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    thPhelps – I know, right? I’m a bit skittish to ask this at the risk of being pummeled with tomatoes.., though here it goes anyway.., so has anyone’s Silver BHoFs started to ship yet?

  56. Scott says

    Thanks to Dave SW FL 12-14 comment about ordering the Platinum Eagle, even though it showed out of stock, I was able to place an order that morning and it has been shipped. The mint really needs to get their act together in regards to availability of their products. This out of stock with little or no warning, then back on sale for roughly 24 hours on Tuesday of the following week nonsense is ridiculous.

  57. MLA says

    My TA9 FR 12/3 IS NOW PROCESSING………wonder if it will ship this time or will it be put on backorder again.

  58. mark says

    My order for one proof and one uncirculated silver bhof shipped today…paid the cheapo $4.95 shipping and its coming UPS GROUND ADULT SIG REQUIRED…????

  59. cagcrisp says

    @Keep Calm & Stack On, I ordered the Silver BHOF coins the minute that they went on Sale. My order is Processing…

    @stephen m, I’m not one that believe that these are rejects. If they ARE, then they will be Returned and I will be out shipping costs Only and that’s all…

  60. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    Thanks whatajoke ~

    cag, I’ve seen movement in the last hour, should be soon for you. Appears they were pre-packaged like the silvers by most ordered # of sets. I really dwelled on the decision, though by late-night, saw it as a pure currency conversion play for an awesome one-of-kind-coin, then it became a no-brainer.

  61. fmtransmitter says

    Brad says
    DECEMBER 17, 2014 AT 9:38 AM

    I think Mark Rex set a record for the longest comment in the history of Mint News Blog! 🙂
    WOW! All kinds of records getting broken, SE’s, bats, signatures, labels, Home Runs, on and on…

  62. fmtransmitter says

    AND he wrote it on the phone…I hope he TALKED into it instead of typed it and gets something to get some sleep. Tylenol PM?

  63. Sith says

    So they coins were ordered in April, and the mint made the determination that they were not wanted 8 months later…

  64. fmtransmitter says

    Saw my first Hilary 16 bumper sticker today…Here we go…ho hum…She doesn’t even drive due to seizures and she wants to run the free World?

  65. Sith says

    Not sure what some of you are complaining about. If a sold out item is put back on the market because it was determined that although we claimed it had reached its mintage limit, in reality it had not reached it who cares, IE the mint declared a sellout in April at 400K, now they are back on sale because they sold less than 400K, and want to sell the full mintage. Its not like they are making new coins, and it not like they are doing a head fake by declaring a sellout before the full mintage was reached, then going oops my bad we are going to produce some more.

  66. Brad says

    Mark,

    That’s EXACTLY why I NEVER pay for those shipping upgrades. I usually get upgraded anyway, even when I pay for “budget.” The upgrade charges are just another way for the Mint to make extra money from unsuspecting collectors.

  67. Joseph says

    Don’t buy these coins. I think they are returns.

    For my own experience, mint sent me 30 BHOF silver dollar in 2 packages, each of them full of returned coins. so I returned both to mint. Last month, they charged to my credit card again and now I am still asking them to refund the coins I didn’t receive. what they will do is they will send me the 30 coins again and issue no refund. definitely will return to mint again. I DON’T WANT THOSE REJECTED COINS. PERIOD!

  68. MN says

    Please post coin conditions of newly ordered BHoF Silver Dollars! I would like one more unflawed Unc but have a hard time believing the ones being offered coins are never before shipped out coins. I don’t think the rejects were melted down and struck new of for this offering and having to pay return postage may not be worth the risk of getting “70” coins.

    Yesterday I received the Visa bank card credit due me since October for the US Mint K15 Gold Kennedy coin that UPS returned to sender/Mint signed for on 10/10/14 (the new shipping service sent the PO Box addressed packages via UPS). After 6 weeks of dealing with CS, I requested a non-receipt form but had to wait another 4 weeks before the credit was given. By law, credit card “charge backs” are not possible when bank debit cards are used (like paying cash) so I had to wait and only hope my Visa would be credited $1,202.50. The credit amount given is $49.75 short so I emailed CS, giving the order’s information and a reply states it was forwarded to their credit department/a 2-5 day response wait. It appears the cost of five K14 coins on the order was subtracted from the K15 refund due; the Mint had refunded my Visa that amount after UPS left that part of the order at our street address and I shipped the package back myself).

  69. JBK says

    Many if not most if not all of the returned coins are probably well within normal tolerances. The Mint does not guarantee MS70/PR70 coins yet some people will accept nothing less. Those who used the Mint’s previously generous return policy as a chance to cherry pick dozens or hundreds of coins at the Mint’s expense are the problem (no offense intended to those here who participated in that.)

    One idea would be for the Mint to tighten it’s quality control a bit and then prohibit any returns. Then people would be guaranteed a coin that was within tolerances and it woud be the luck of the draw to get something higher.

    In the days before third party grading returns were few and far between. People who collect labels instead of coins created a whole new dynamic.

  70. maddogdday says

    Reposting this request for 2014 Fallen Heroes 3″ medals. Need one Pennsylvania and one Pentagon medal. Willing to pay a small markup over your cost and for shipping. Please post contact information and will send immediate payment. Thank you.

  71. VA Bob says

    FM – That FDR Bronze looks like someone kept it in their boats bilge for a few years. IMO way too much for a medal without a nice patina, that appears improperly stored.

    JBK – I couldn’t agree more. It’s pretty well know that many large Mint orders are/were cherry picked and the less desirable examples retuned. That said their should be no reason for someone to get a less than 69/70 from the Mint, for a coin that is supposed to get special handling and exact a large premium from the buyer. Scratches, foreign objects, and rinse spots should never leave the Mint to the buyer. Unfortunately that is the case. The abuses need to stop on both ends.

    I also agree that, with a few exceptions, TPG’s are hurting the hobby in the sense that it is creating enthusiasts that can read a label, but can’t determine what’s in the slab. It’s not making a large group of collectors any smarter about their coins as they cede that knowledge to the TPG. It is good for flippers though.

  72. VA Bob says

    Cag – best of luck on the BHoF coins. I hope my feeling about them is wrong. let us know what they look like when you get them.

  73. Alfred E. Numismatic says

    Dec 4th TA9 shipped! Now we do the slow boat dance. B33 shipped from Dec 15th, signature dance.
    – “Dances with Coins ” – starring Kevin “Costsalot” (of anxiety)
    coming (maybe) to a mailbox near you.

  74. Boz says

    Government should start its own slabbing program. Slabs and premiums seem to be what everybody wants. What ever happened to those who just liked coin collecting?

    Charge 10x for 70s and heavily discount the culls. First second strike goes to the Smithsonian, rest of the first minute to auction, the first day production gets special label, etc. Error coins on ebay with the income going to fix potholes on the interstate highway system.

    Seems like Canada did that with their old gold. Much higher premiums for higher grade with the profits going back to the taxpayer that brought them to the dance in the first place.

  75. VA Bob says

    Maddogdday – Collectors Universe (PCGS forum) has a BST (Buy, Sell, Trade) area (other coin forums might as well). I believe you’ll have better luck at places like that. MNB is really not set up for BST. Besides, lots of the same folks here are there as well. Good luck with your search.

  76. VA Bob says

    Boz – LOL…. Don’t give them any ideas. I can see them saying the funds are a little low this year, let’s pump out a few extra errors.

  77. Boz says

    Coins should be sold with numbered signed COA’s autographed by Rosie Rios. Why wait till you retire to go on TV, Do it now.

    Carson City silver dollars in 2015 anyone?

  78. Boz says

    Mobile mint with on site pressings for the 235th anniversary of the Detroit waterworks, with enhanced frosting and a Detroit mint mark? Just an idea but the Detroit silver dollars could help fix up the crumbling infrastructure. The opportunities are endless.

  79. VA Bob says

    As for that Coin Discovery Set the Mint is selling (got my email notification for that) I can help but think they would to better to put some coins other than the highly sold (some may say overly sold) JFK coins offered in this set. Maybe there are plenty of them, as they can’t ship them off to the Fed like the circulating coins.

  80. VA Bob says

    Boz – The mobile Mint would need to be bullet proof for stops in places like Detroit. They might find a new collectors base for those CR coins, though, so win win.

  81. Gary Not Dave says

    @Boz
    I thought the same thing a few years ago….The Mint should just sell slabbed coins 70 or 69s but that would probably put some people out of business?

  82. cagcrisp says

    @Keep Calm & Stack On, I’ve been trading Before, During and After the Fed statement and Yellen’s press conference. I can tell you there has been Wild Swings both ways. At one time the Dow was up +300 and then when she said a “couple” means “two” and it was as low as +148. Wow..I need more Dramamine…

    As for as Ag. I think All the action is focused on Au. Whether Russia has to sell Gold or Whether the currency of All the EM countries are Buying Gold because of Their currencies collapse IF Oil continues Down.

  83. Mikez says

    All, I called the mint today and talked to them about these coins being re-issues or returns being resold. I was told that all returned coins are destroyed by the mint. Which makes sense given that they cannot be sure that some chucklehead didn’t adulterate the coin and send it back. I was also told that the mint originally minted only 200,000 of these coins and that they sold out of them in April and re- minted in October of this year up to e mintage limit of 400,000. so now they have more for sale. Any thoughts on that?

  84. Ends in Error says

    I think the Mint should consider running irregular scraps of metal through the Coining Presses and offering special numbered limited autographed sets ( with COA ) of these Coin Scraps.

    Might generate big profit. “Green” coinage could be the new collecting craze.

  85. Ralph says

    Mikez@ did you just talk to the person who answered or were you transferred to a supervisor. Yesterday, I called and asked them the same question about the new batch of BHOF Silver Coins. This woman had no clue at all. All she could tell me was they were on sale and what the Mint mark was?? I asked about them being returned rejects, once again clueless! You did a lot better than I my friend! lol

  86. VA Bob says

    Mikez – I appreciate your comment, but I don’t believe for a minute that CSR gave a knowledgeable answer. I know for a fact that a person, I know, got a coin that some kind person wrote “returned” on a small sticker an placed on the capsule, on the underside. Unless things have changed very recently, I believe that unless noticeably damaged the coins go back out, and then the Mints idea of damage or subpar quality seems to vary. The Mint could avoid this by inspecting before hand, especially Au and Ag coins where we pay a large premium in order to get nice, high quality pieces. One wouldn’t buy a painting with a smug on it for full price. These collectable coins are supposed to be small works of art after all.

  87. fmtransmitter says

    FM – That FDR Bronze looks like someone kept it in their boats bilge for a few years. IMO way too much for a medal without a nice patina, that appears improperly stored.
    Maybe it was buried and found with medal detector. I know some collectors like that patina. Each to his own, thanks for commenting…

  88. Mikez says

    Hi All, in reply to Ralph, no I didn’t talk with a supervisor, just customer service rep. I have no idea who knows what there and I have always found this site to be highly informative and certainly the gentleman that runs the blog here has better contacts than I at the mint, just putting out some data there, whether or not it is legitimate I have no idea. So, not to bother anyone or put them out, there you have it. Have a good one, -Mike

  89. gary says

    The silver BHOFs should eventually crash & burn to sell at less than Mint issue price sometime in 2015

  90. Mike says

    Has the mint stop selling the 2014 Platinum American Eagle? Mintage? After 2 months of being on the market.

  91. VA Bob says

    FM – You’re right many people do like all kinds of patina, that’s why there is a big market in altering medals to have those colors. Big difference on something that goes for around $20 -$30 attempting to fetch $85. Also just because it has 1945 on it, the Mint was still selling these about 15 years ago, it may not be that old (or vintage). You can still get Washington and Lincoln inauguration medals at the Mint.

    Sure it could have been a medal detector find, but the different surface between the obverse and reverse suggest otherwise. I metal detect and most bronze coins I find are chocolate brown, never found a red, or red brown buried for any length of time, but I guess anything is possible.

    The round spots on the obverse in both the left field at 9 o clock and right near FDR’s mouth concern me. The finish seems etched, not something that would happen in a sock drawer. Naw, there is a reason this isn’t in a slab (they aren’t rare, and this wouldn’t grade). Whether one likes the look of this medal or not, I’d be cautious.

    If I were into these I’d probably buy this one, it’s closer to a realist price:

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1945-FDR-FRANKLIN-ROOSEVELT-LARGE-3-BRONZE-MEDAL/141258043201?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27538%26meid%3D0a83fd6518fb47f3b81f4e110a2f93e0%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D11353%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D281423993783&rt=nc

  92. AzDan says

    My 3 C&C sets arrived today. I placed the order on 12/10.

    Earlier I purchased a set on eBay from a seller for $29.97. I looked up what he was selling and it turns out he sold 100 sets for a fixed price and 34 one at a time. Having knowledge is helpful if you want to make a quick buck, but the US Mint should have let orders be taken all along in-lieu of changing the status so that items could not ordered again until “Add to bag” was visible or “Back Ordered”. Out of stock is not the same as Sold out.

    I wish I knew the set contained an enhanced version before hand and that household limits were in place at least for a couple of weeks.

  93. jhawk92 says

    @BobR-Well, $12 Eagles wouldn’t be all bad. If you figure $2.69 or more in premium over spot, then we’d be seeing silver well under $10/oz. I guess that would be a very dramatic time to buy. I am still watching, hoping we see it at least back in the $14s.

  94. Gary says

    Does anyone know if you can buy an NGC case that will fit the baseball coins. I have the complete set in ngc cases and can’t fit the baseball in it. Maybe I’m neurotic but I like stuff neat
    Thanks Gary. garyc183@comcast.net

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