2014 Great Sand Dunes National Park Quarter Bags and Rolls

Today, August 25, 2014 at 12:00 Noon ET, the United States Mint will begin sales of bags and rolls containing circulating quality 2014 Great Sand Dunes National Park Quarters. This will represent the twenty-fourth release within the America the Beautiful Quarters Program.

Great Sand Dunes Quarter

The reverse of the coin was designed and engraved by Don Everhart and features a depiction of a father and son playing in the sand next to the creek bed. The distinctive mountains and sand dunes of the park are featured in the background. Inscriptions read “Great Sand Dunes”, “Colorado”, “2014”, and “E Pluribus Unum”.

Notably, this design was not recommended by either the Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) or the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC) during the design review phase. The CFA had recommended a candidate featuring a broad landscape without any people present. The CCAC made no recommendation from the provided candidates, requesting new candidates with a balance between negative space and objects, and less fine detail. Besides the recommendations provided by the CCAC and CFA, the design selection process for the series also includes input from the Secretary of the Interior and the chief executive of the host jurisdiction before the Director of the United States Mint makes a final recommendation to the Secretary of the Treasury. Presumably, the final design had gained support of one or more of the others involved in the selection process.

On the obverse of the coin is the 1932 portrait of George Washington designed by John Flanagan with the original design details restored. Inscriptions read “United States of America”, “Liberty”, “In God We Trust”, and “Quarter Dollar”. This design has been used in common throughout the series.

There are six different product options available for the 2014 Great Sand Dunes National Park Quarter bags and rolls. Each option includes circulating quality coins struck at either the Philadelphia, Denver, or San Francisco Mints, braining the “P”, “D”, or “S” mint mark, respectively. The circulating quality coins bearing the “S” mint mark are not released for circulation and only available in numismatic products.

The US Mint is offering 40-coin rolls with “S” mint mark coins priced at $18.95 each, two roll sets containing “P” and “D” mint mark coins priced at $32.95, and three roll sets of “P”, “D”, and “S” mint mark coins priced at $46.95 each. There are also 100-coin bags available containing coins with either of the mint marks priced at $34.95 each. Each of the products is available by subscription, however discounted pricing is not extended to these products.

All bags and rolls include wrappers or tags containing US Mint branding as well as the name of the park, state abbreviation, mint mark, and face value of the contents.

There are no stated mintage limits or household ordering limits in place. The US Mint indicates that the products will remain available for one year from the initial on-sale date or until inventory is depleted prior to the one-year time frame.

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  1. jeff says

    This is where participation slows down from this issue going foward. I see no real creativity . Next year’s design is the worst design imaginable. The only positive is the ATB 5 oz are cheap. Until the JFK silvers are release I think the mint struggles selling anything the rest of the year, unless there’s a suprise.

  2. SKM says

    If it wasn’t for the JFK Gold and the future release of the JFK Silver, my US Mint purchases would be zero for 2014.

    I have only 1 ATB 5 OZ coin (Hot Springs). I’m not interested in collecting another set of coins after the Statehood set.

  3. VA Bob says

    What a pity they started these San Fran mint marked coins with the ATB program all ready in progress. Also they should have been included in the annual unc mint sets.

  4. VA Bob says

    Also who is the genius at the Mint that sets the prices? $46.95 if the rolls are bought together or $41.90 if bought separately? This is how the government manages taxpayer dollars across the board. No need to wonder why we as a nation are in debt.

  5. cagcrisp says

    excel sheet is out;

    2014 KENNEDY ANNIVERSARY GOLD COIN 63,388 Minus 133


  6. Pittsburgh P says

    Cag so sales are down 133? This is why I thought prior weeks cancelations were figured in the next week… But I guess there was more cancelations than sales last week & returns from the weeks before that hit the system last week are figured.

    Well I said 200 a week was generous 🙂 at this rate the mintage will be under 60k by the new year! 😉
    Keep canceling this dog fellas!!!!

  7. cagcrisp says

    Mint EXCEL spreadsheet comparing 08/25 to 08/17:

    Mint BHOF excel spreadsheet update for 08/25/14:

    Gold proof BHOF 32,845 down 42
    Gold unc. 18,446 down 3
    Silver proof 268,329 down 11,122
    Silver unc. 132,100 down 12,181
    Clad proof 208,073 up 1,007
    Clad unc. 130,300 down 342
    Young Collector 18,486 up 2,016

    Gold BHOF oversold 1,291
    Silver BHOF oversold 429

  8. cagcrisp says

    @Pittsburgh P, I would think there were some cancellations last week that anticipated a price drop this Wednesday. $37.50 is $37.50

  9. Jon in CT says

    VA Bob wrote on August 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM:

    Also who is the genius at the Mint that sets the prices? $46.95 if the rolls are bought together or $41.90 if bought separately? This is how the government manages taxpayer dollars across the board. No need to wonder why we as a nation are in debt.

    You should always double-check your arithmetic before you fly off the handle. 🙂

  10. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    As expected eBay, not the Red Book has become the standard at which we gauge all our coin prices.

  11. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    As an economy improves, art suffers because you do not need to do such a great job to sell it.

  12. Howard says

    Merryx, I have heard that in bad economic times the folks want a physical asset,
    antiques or gold silver or real estate.

  13. cagcrisp says

    To the US Mint,

    Thanks. I could not have envisioned a better roll out of the Gold Kennedy. Things could not be setting up better for collectors. Keep the household limit in place. Use the same sale model for the 2015 UHR, the 2016 Gold Mercury and the 2016 Gold Walking Liberty…


    P.S. I did not initially like the ‘mint to how ever many you want to mint’ concept at first, but now I think it was for the best…

  14. cagcrisp says

    Gold Kennedy Guesstimates (resorted from low to high)

    • GoldFishin 66,532 – 73,185 07/31
    • Jeff 70k 07/10
    • TimTom 70k 07/31
    • Longarm 70k 08/01
    • VA Rich 50k +/- 8k 07/10 ; 71,293 07/31
    • Louis 50k 07/10; +/- 75k 08/01
    • zeeman 75,000 08/03
    • bg35765 75,920 08/01
    • Dustyroads 86,500 07/31
    • Pittsburg P between 88,000 and 110,000 07/31
    • gary 92,586 07/31
    • SilverFan over/under 100k 07/11
    • VA Bob 100k +/- 5k 07/31
    • A Bob 100,000 07/31
    • VABEACHBUM 07/16 do not think it will either garner the interest or come anywhere close to 109k
    • Sith 60k 07/11; 100k to 120k 07/31
    • thePhelps between 75 and 100k the first week and a total of 125k 07/31
    • Stephen m. 150k+ 07/11
    • Clark exceed 200k 07/26

  15. cagcrisp says

    @GoldFishin, You just wanted to see Your name at the Top of the Leader Board…Didn’t you?

  16. cagcrisp says

    Opening Day Only Sales Silver Kennedy

    • VA Rich 100k on 08/08/14 ; 137k 08/09
    • thePhelps 85,500 08/08
    • CaptainOverkill 75,000 08/08
    • cagcrisp 212,125 08/08
    • VA Bob 105k 08/08
    • HiCal 93,564 08/08
    • Bob R 169,000 08/08
    • Pittsburgh P 148,888 08/08
    • Hawkster 184,546 08/08
    • Dustyroads 64,000 08/09
    • Louis 115k 08/09
    • Sith 100k 08/09
    • GoldFishin 88,844 08/09

  17. MAT says

    @jon in CT,

    “I also just started to have a problem on this site with the way the text is displayed. Here’s a screen grab which illustrates my problem when view this site using Chrome. Curiously, everything looks OK when viewed using Internet Explorer.”

    Maybe you should check your sentence structure before you post Mr perfect.

  18. bg35765 says

    I’ll go with 87,281 on the first day Kennedy silvers. I think many of the estimates above are unrealistically high.

    The 2013 West Point set had first day sales of 138,514 and that was with no household dealers that allowed single dealers to place orders for 20,000+ sets.

    The dealers can get around the 5 per household limit to an extent, but they only have so many friends and family. Beyond them it gets expensive.

    For the little guy the silver set is a risky flip. On gold coins the dealer grading discount is a relatively low percentage of the total price, so the little guy can usually still make money. But that discount on a silver coin is a much higher percentage of the price, and when you multiply that discount by 4 coins, forget it.

  19. GoldFishin says

    @bg35765 – everything you said makes perfect sense and exactly how I am thinking. Household limits combined with higher percentage coin cost to grading should rein in the first day sales If the TPG’s do the same thing they have been doing and make you submit under higher tiers they won’t leave any meat on the bone for the flipper’s. It’s not the 70’s that hurt you, it’s the 69’s that come back. The 69’s eat any profits you might have gained.
    I think a few folks will still be stinging from this JFK gold release as well and may proceed with extreme caution. My personal thinking is OGP is the way to go with the silver offering. I would like to have the reverse proof and enhanced graded 70, but I am going to let somebody else take that risk.

  20. Small time collector says

    Returned (for exchange) 1 or 2 k15 today as requested by the csr included a notation (on the paperwork) about marred lettering on the reverse. They are interested as it’s a recurring problem. Will get refund for return mail + ins, with separately mailed legible copy of receipt.
    I’m now in the holding pattern for the Kennedy Collection. Seriously considering getting back into the bufffalo’s and awaiting the next couple years special offerings.
    Re: the Kennedy Collection I can see 95k to 115k being sold lower price + boomer attraction.
    Anyone else think the mint ought to consider revamping products to attract the various upcoming generations with “cool” products much un-like the curved baseball coin.
    I’ve talked with our kids, they are not interested in passed presidents and their wives, they do like the buffaloes (and wish they kept the incrememtals the oz-ers are too $$$) because as kids they got dateless and partly dateless Buffalo Nickles as something to get them interested. They have a fondness for the Ikes as that is what the tooth fairy got them every tooth.
    I think more contemporary people, activities, animals, hobbies and events may have broad appeal amongst younger people.

  21. Jon in CT says

    The Mint’s href=”http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/?action=press_release&id=1606″>press release about these products says:

    The coins in the bags and rolls were struck on the main production floors of the United States Mint’s facilities at Denver, Philadelphia, and San Francisco, while the three-roll set contains coins from all three facilities. Unlike the “P” and “D” mint mark quarters, those with the “S” mint mark will not be released into circulation.

    That got me wondering whether the San Francisco Mint might produce any other business strike coins on its “main production floors” in addition to the rolls and bags of AtB clad quarters.

  22. jeff says

    Bg & GoldFishing I’m going take the other side . I think the silver Kennedy’s will be extremely hot, with the low price point, uniqueness of the four different strikes. I’m interested myself what the presentation box will look like.
    My guess will be total production 250-300 K I to believe the RP will be assome it will be the key coin in this set.

  23. cagcrisp says

    @jeff, You do know that bg35765 and GoldFishin guesses was Just for ‘Opening Day Only Sales Silver Kennedy’ and not Total?

  24. thePhelps says

    @jeff… bg and gold were referencing the 1st day sales totals. You could be right on the money for the total sales… but I think we’ll need to see the roll out numbers 1st to see if they are hot hotter hottest off the presses…

    I also think total sales might be impacted by the mints committment to these – how long will they be on sale? It could be the rare mint product that is deployed in October and gone by December…

  25. VA Rich says

    Jeff – of all posters, if you’re excited about something JFK, then I know it’s surely going to be Hot!

    Last week there was some posts regarding the silver content and MV of the 4 coin set and the associated cost. I’m interested as well as to see the presentation box, I’m thinking it’ll be a surprise and will help close the gap between the Ag MV content and the $99 price tag.

  26. VA Rich says

    thePhelps – and perhaps a 3rd factor, that may easily be answered here among us on MNB as a sampling of the collector base.

    How many of these 4-coin set do the regular posters here on MNB plan to buy at this present time knowing what you know of the product?

    I think it would be really insightful to see how many of this sets the MNB regulars plan to buy of this set.., for collecting, gifting, putting away for later to decide, flipping, just because I can, inheritance, etc.

  27. GoldFishin says

    @Va Rich – the quality was so bad with the 5 oz Arches I reduced my subscription from 10 coins to zero for the ugly duckling Sandstorm. I don’t like having to send half of what I purchase back to the Mint just to receive more dogs in return. I will buy one SP70 on the bay to keep my 2014 graded set in place.

    I am planning on purchasing the limit of 5 Kennedy silver sets. I will not grade any of them.

  28. says

    jeff and VA Rich, Brad(the original) said he saw the Kennedy silver set at the ANA show and that they were in a paper card rather than in a display case.

  29. Pittsburgh P says

    I’m sure they’ll be in some type of case & not a card… They probably didn’t know what yet at the time of the show but imo it will not be a real nice one like the gold is in like some are hoping…

    I’ve already said it-I’ll be getting five. One to display, one to put away, possibly grade one but doubt it & 2 gifts…

  30. VA Rich says

    Dusty – yeah, I recall BO stating that and if you go out to google, search on “2014 JFK silver set,” select Images, you’ll see a photo on the 3rd row down. Maybe I’m in denial, though for the Flagship offering of 2014.., I’m hoping we see something presented better than in the photo!

    GF – sad but true – I’ve pulled back on the sandbox as well. Hope you’re gold replacements are getting processed in a timely manner

  31. cagcrisp says

    This is what I previously posted:

    cagcrisp says

    July 3, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    This is how I am playing the Kennedy rollout.

    Zero Clads for $9.95
    Zero Silvers for $99.95
    5 Golds if mintage is under 100k…

    Nothing has changed….

  32. cagcrisp says

    Sales, Cancellations and Pricing.

    I wanted to see what affect cancellations and pricing had on sales. Gold pricing increased Wednesday 08/13 around Noon EDT. I am going to use the ENTIRE weeks sales AS IF it was priced on the old price for week ending 08/17. The price for the entire week of 08/24 was at the Increased Price and I assume that some canceled last week and will reorder this week at the reduced price on Wednesday 08/27 at noon. With that criteria, here are the following results:

    w/e 08/17/14 Total Gold Products sold (16 FS, 6 AGE’s, 1 Buffalo and 1 Kennedy) 4,687 units $5,235,352,50

    w/e 08/24/14 Total Gold Products sold (16 FS, 6 AGE’s, 1 Buffalo and 1 Kennedy) 423 units $480,317.50

  33. VA Rich says

    cag – I’m surprised you haven’t come around on this silver set yet.

    Due to the sole offering in Mid-October coupled with the FB marketing, this JFK set in terms of first week sales, could rival the BHoF silvers or greater, IMO. I’m in for 5-10 sets – a few for the collection, a few for gifts, a few just to put away for a special occasion down the road, and a few to flip when first day sales blow the doors off the ready made inventory and the mint induces secondary market demand again, that rivals BHoF.

  34. VA Rich says

    GF/Clark – I shouldn’t say this though I just can’t resist, perhaps I should buy 20 sets to account for the 10-12 sets I’ll likely have to return since the set will contain a ‘P’ product, that should leave me with 4-6 keepers! (sorry, I’ll let it go now and won’t bring it up again 🙂

  35. cagcrisp says

    @VA Rich, I make my money doing stocks and gambling. I can’t turn that switch off. I don’t ‘buy what you like’. I only buy something (for myself) that I think will be a good investment. Originally I did not buy any Silver BHOF coins. I only bought some after seeing how good they looked after I bought some for other.

    I’m not a ATB, FS, RP, Unc or Enhanced person….so that kind of leaves me out of the Silver Kennedy….

    I think initial sales will be Huge (Just like I Wrongly thought about the Clads and the Golds). I see Total Sales North of 400,000 and I just don’t see it being another BHOF.

    I’ve been wrong before….and I’ll be wrong again…

  36. VA Bob says

    VA Rich – I’ll probably be in for 2 of the silver JFK sets. Personally I believe the Mint is cashing in on JFK a bit. One can have 3 lens sets of proof ATB quarters for $95.85 (93.75 grams total weight 90% silver, 15 coins) verses one hundred bucks for 4 half’s (50 grams total weight 90% silver, 4 coins). Yes I, realize there is might be more work on the JFK dies for the multiple finishes, but they are still pricey. They should however look nice. I’m sure most people’s eyes go directly to the big silver JFK coin when they open their annual silver sets, these should be real stunners.

  37. Small time collector says

    I’m wondering if the coin holder will allow buyers to pick the best from multiple sets to assemble as near as perfect set possible, then return the discards? 😮
    I’m thinking 5, one for each kid and their family

  38. stephen m says

    cagcrisp & GoldFishin, Well the Kennedy gold may be a hard sell for the Mint with the opening fiasco and dropping gold prices. It ain’t over until the fat lady(sorry ladies) sings. There is still time for a lot more to be sold if they are available till years end.

  39. Louis says

    VA- You can only buy 5 silver JFK sets unless you have a dozen po boxes and cc’s like an independent dealer I know. I also think they will be too common to have flip potential except for 70’s maybe. I just like the set and would like a couple.

  40. VA Bob says

    Cag – I’m not as optimistic as you are. I’m thinking between 200K and 225K total. Why. Its price point is just under the previous years two coin ASE sets and is not going to be a flippers dream (as the flippers hoped the San Fran and West Point sets would be, and the reason there is a gut of those coins available, IMO). I also believe while there are quite a few JFK half collectors, there is not quite as many as there are ASE collectors. Many will buy multiple sets because of popularity, but I don’t believe it would out strip the sales the ASE’s had. I could be wrong, just my 2 cents on it.

  41. Hidalgo says

    Re: the silver Kennedy half sets. I believe these sets are “mint to demand” aren’t they? If so, I certainly will be in no rush to buy them, as I do not plan to get any of the coins certified by a third party grader.

  42. cagcrisp says

    @stephen m & VA Bob, I thought the Mint would sell a Million of the Clads and North North North of 125,000 Golds. So that is my track record…I am Consistent…

    (IF I was to get this one right, I will be 1 for 3. There is only 21 baseball players in the History of Baseball that had a Lifetime Batting Average above .3333 (at least 1000 games played))

  43. Jon in CT says

    Louis wrote on August 25, 2014 at 6:56 PM:

    VA- You can only buy 5 silver JFK sets unless you have a dozen po boxes and cc’s like an independent dealer I know.

    Just curious about what distinguishes an independent dealer from all other coin dealers. Is independent simply a synonym for small-time?

  44. Pittsburgh P says

    Louis I’m sure all your family & friends who don’t collect coins and would buy this set live at the same address… If I wanted 20 sets I could easily obtain them.

  45. Hawkster says


    In anticipation of the Kennedy silver sets, I have purchased three 1964 Kennedy proofs from ebay sellers. The proofs are still in the Mint cello (cut from proof sets). I paid $20. for each one through the ebay “make an offer” option. I will place these in the three Kennedy sets that I plan to buy.
    There are many 1964 Kennedy proof offerings on ebay. I always assume that, unless they are in the original Mint cello, they have been handled in some way.

  46. thePhelps says

    @VA Rich… I plan on buying 3 sets of the silvers. I usually buy an extra set for my daughter/granddaughter because they enjoy coins as well. I don’t see this set as having any major upside, because I think the market will see a flood of these for years to come. That said – I think this will be one of the unique offerings to come in recent memory, and as such is going to be a gem to keep.

  47. VA Bob says

    GoldFishin – I believe the flippers that have the JFK gold in 69 would do much better to wait (if they can financially) until the Mint stops selling them. The UHR prices didn’t take off until then, even though the Mint destroyed 10’s of thousands.

  48. jeff says

    I think like many there will be limited upside for the silver set, however there could be potential unforseen events that could change that presumption. Silver prices move up, end of the Kennedy half dollar. I’m wondering if the mint would consider serial numbering each set now that could be a game changer, then we’d know the real first strikes.

  49. GoldFishin says

    @VA BOB- I am just holding my breath and hoping that the mintage stays low. I don’t see anything to make it move higher right now at all. Just the opposite.

  50. VA Rich says

    cag – the why you work your magic out here with these numbers and analysis.., I wish you’d float some stock picks my way! 🙂 oh how I wish I had the time anymore to do the analysis

  51. Hawkster says

    We still would not know the true first strikes of the coins. If the Kennedy sets were serial numbered, we would merely know the order in which the sets were assembled. The Mint has, to the best of my knowledge, never serial numbered coins or coin sets. There’s no reason to believe that there will be any consideration on the part of the Mint to do it with the Kennedy set.

  52. VA Rich says

    Ok Pitt, this is for you, as I know you like the speculation as much as I do, among others.

    So, what does the Silver JFK 4-coin set release look like?

    – Noon, Thursday, 23 October – Game Day!
    – 5 set household limit
    – No mintage limit
    – Mint to Demand to EOY
    – Mint shows up with 100,000 sets
    – Opening day sales 137,000
    – Instant back-order to 01 Dec
    – Slow boat makes an appearance
    – Back order pushes to 19 Dec
    – MNB Regulars get ‘testy’ with each other
    for not having their stocking stuffers IS&R
    – Sales conclude 31 Dec, total sales 215,000
    – The final set delivery is 14 Feb ’15
    – MNB Regulars have already forgotten about Slow boat
    as they begin to wet their appetite for the UHR
    – The end of the First Spouse program is in site, we are saved!

    What do think? There’s some real smart cookies out here, for argument sake, yea or nay?

  53. VA Bob says

    GoldFishin – Yeah, everyone wants low mintages (collectors, dealers, flippers, and speculators). That’s the problem they buy a ton of them and hope nobody is doing the same. It worked sometimes, especially before the internet caught on. Well I suppose the Civil Rights commem is still available. 😉

  54. Pittsburgh P says

    VaRich… LOVE IT! 🙂

    You know my pick was Oct 9th release & I’m goin a tad higher on the max but all & all great speculation – can’t get enough.

    Maybe through in a ton of cancellations when the backorder log jam starts 😉
    Another DOG I tell ya! Don’t even bother with this one…

  55. Louis says

    Jon- Independent means he works for himself not a large company. Just like I am an independent writer, which means I write for a variety of pubs, and am not on the staff of one of them. It also means no one tells me what to do!!

    PP- I don’t have any family. They are all deceased except cousins and such.

  56. Tinto says

    VA Rich.

    I’m in for 3 silver JFK sets, one to keep my RP collection complete and two to give as gifts come Christmas.

  57. Clark says

    VaRich–Sorry for the delay. We were watching Breaking Bad run away with all the Emmys. Thanks for the link. There is great, sad irony in the P Mint employees slapping each other’s backs for all that record breaking “perfection.” Let’s hope they’re not called on to press out any more curved coins in the future.

    I plan to buy whatever the household limit is for anniv silver Kennedy. Hope it’s 10, but someone here said it was previously announced to be 5. Compared to what we paid for those two-coin ASE sets recently, I view $99.95/set as a bargain.

  58. Louis says

    Thanks, Clark. You are very kind.

    I am pretty sure they already set 5 for the HH limit on the silver sets, though that could change.

  59. Jerry Diekmann says

    I think the CO-06 or CO-07 versions would have been much better images, but no one checked with me.

  60. Dave says

    Comment on Kennedy Gold Half:

    Look out! Jump back! Out of my way — one of the bigger dealers has the “RARE” Kennedy labels for sale as follow:

    “This is a very hard to get label. Only 5-6 NGC dealers qualify to produce this label. We are lucky enough to be one of those dealers who qualify. ”

    I believe you get the coin as a bonus with that label; however, it might be just the label?

    Disclaimer: The respective wording, while although in the dictionary (words) belongs to the respective dealer as advertised. In no way is this message an offer to buy or sale such label, or plagiarize said advertisement. And is solely my opinion (your opinion may be different) — my lawyer makes me say this (all of it). The end. LOL!

  61. VA Rich says

    Thanks Gentlemen for your candid input. I thought some of the sales orders from some would be max’ed at 5, so may be my first days sales prediction is on the very high end.

  62. Pittsburgh P says

    Sorry Louis, I didn’t make that comment to be ignorant. Just showing how it could be done.

  63. ClevelandRocks says

    Haven’t heard Michael comment on the “sold out”, “not sold out”, “sold out” gotcha again “not sold out” UNCs. Did I miss something?

    Old format please.

  64. VA Rich says

    Louis – if the mint felt that they just didn’t have anywhere close to the anticipated demand for the 4 coin set, I guess it wouldn’t be out of the question for them to impose a 1 set household limit for 30 days which would surely turn things upside down. They seem to catch a lot of heat on FB for coins not shipping in a timely manner.., thoughts?

  65. Jack in N.E says

    I plan on buying only 2 silver sets,it is interesting to read everyone’s comments,good luck

  66. Louis says

    All I know is the Mint said there would be a HH limit of 5 for all 3 JFK products, which I suspect will remain in place when the silver sets are released. With the gold they changed to 1 at the last minute out of concerns that demand would be so high at the show and retail locations. All I am suggesting is I think all these JFK products are better seen as coins to be enjoyed than as flippable or as investments.

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