2014-P Arches National Park Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin

Today, June 12, 2014 at 12:00 Noon ET, the United States Mint will begin sales of the Arches National Park Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coins. This will mark the twenty third release within the ongoing series of large sized silver numismatic coins.

Arches National Park Five Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin

The reverse of the coin, which was designed by Donna Weaver and engraved by Charles L. Vickers, features a depiction of Delicate Arch. This 65-foot freestanding natural arch is the most famous feature of Arches National Park and is a widely recognized landmark of Utah. The background of the image contains the La Sal Mountains. The inscriptions read “Arches”, “Utah”, “2014”, and “E Pluribus Unum”.

The obverse of each coin features the 1932 portrait of George Washington designed by John Flanagan with inscriptions “United States of America”, “Liberty”, “In God We Trust”, and “Quarter Dollar”. The coin carries the “P” mint mark to indicate mintage at the Philadelphia Mint.

Each coin is struck in 99.9% silver with a weight of 5.000 troy ounces. The precious metal weight and purity are indicated on incuse edge lettering. The diameter of each coin is 3.000 inches and the thickness is 0.165 inch.

This numismatic version of the coin has an uncirculated finish created through a vapor blasting technique and carries a maximum mintage of 30,000 pieces. Pricing is $154.95 per coin, wither orders fulfilled through the US Mint’s online subscription program eligible for the discounted price of $139.45 per coin. There are no household ordering limits in place.

The numismatic releases of the series for this year have been strong sellers. As of the latest sales report, the previous release featuring Shenandoah National Park has recorded sales of 22,878 units from the 30,000 maximum mintage since its release about a month ago. The first release of the year featuring Great Smoky Mountains National Park had sold out of its 25,000 maximum mintage, with last reported sales indicated as 24,725 units.

Earlier this week, the US Mint began accepting orders for the bullion version of the Arches National Park Five Ounce Silver Coin. These bullion piece have a brilliant finish and do not contain a mint mark. The coins are distributed through the US Mint’s authorized purchaser network and initially sold based on the market value of the silver plus a mark up. Orders for the bullion version have reached 13,500 pieces. The prior bullion releases have reached sales of 28,000 for Great Smoky and 19,600 for Shenandoah National Park.

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  1. gary says

    A great way to get 5 oz. of silver and to build a complete set of ATB P-mints. With Hawaii, Acadia and Denali as the key dates it is still an affordable way to build a set and these coins display nicely and even non-collectors like to see them & find out more about them. Arches is the latest of a great line up for 2014.

  2. oldfolkie says

    As a transplanted Easterner that visited Shenandoah, the Smokies, and the Everglades often, and now lives in the most Beautiful state of all, Utah, I love it! What a great year for the ATBs. I can not see anyway possible that these great and loved parks will not increase in demand over the years. Can’t wait to see the real thing, the coin, and the arch again. For a long time I couldn’t really decide whether I liked the bullion or P versions better, but I do think these last two, with all there detail, look better in the P version. The only bullion version that is head and shoulders above the P version, to me at least, is the Hawaiian one. The shinier version makes a much greater impact with it’s unique design.

  3. ips_stuff says

    Anyone showing Arches “P” orders with a ship date? My two subscriptions show ordered with yesterday’s date and both are backordered to 6/27. We all know how valid and useful the mints backorder dates are!!!

    Also anyone with any BHOF silver orders shipping???

    Thanks in advance.

  4. Pittsburgh P says

    This is my favorite design yet. It’s simplicity and having the least lettering around the rim makes it a winner imo. Someone mentioned a few days back that the arches being unnecessarily off center was a mistake by the mint in design. I feel it’s perfect, it places the larger leg of the arch close to the center as a focal point. Can’t wait to see these up close. I’m really hoping the back round rock is somehow differentiated from the arch so it jumps creating a 3D effect.

    ips my order is the same as yours… Put through yesterday and backordered til 6/27. No movement on my silver or clad BHoF’s but these orders were placed later(4/1, 4/4 and 4/6). I have received all coins from orders on the 27th. Hope this helped a little…

  5. fmtransmitter says

    OnT: This is one design where I feel the field is TOO naked. A local bird in flight would have complimented this design. I am not fond of non living things ONLY on coins, and by that I don’t mean dead PEOPLE> Maybe the Arch is alive and many have found love or been married under it. Either way, too much naked field imo…

  6. VABEACHBUM says

    @ Pittsburgh P – Agreed on all counts. I’ve always been a huge proponent of “simple is better,” and while this design has a lot of detail in the ground and rock surfaces, this design is not nearly as busy as most of the previous ATB issues. I also think this is one of the reasons that this design is so impressive upon the regular sized PR and Ag PR quarters. The Arch is simple and show-cased by the mirrored field. I cannot wait to have my UNC and BU pucks in hand!

    My ship status is the same as everyone elses. Back-ordered to 6/27. If this coin follows the Shenandoah track, we’ll probably see these coins go in stock and ship by 6/20.

    For my remaining BHOF orders, additional $1 coins ordered on 04/08 still are back ordered to 07/31, while additional Halfs ordered on 04/28 (last day of standard pricing) remain back ordered to 07/15.

  7. fmtransmitter says

    IF, I say IF I pick up one of these, this is where I would prefer the Uncirc over the vapor blast. If I have to look at empty fields, I would rather have them mirror like than vapor blasted (frosted)…

  8. Ray says

    Both my GSM and Arches AtBs are backordered until 6/27. They’ve both been moving back a day, every day. I just hope I get the GSM. Patience is the name of the game when it comes to ordering US Mint products. Still waiting on 7 BHoF orders. I’m sure by the time I receive them gold will be down to 600/coin and silver 90/coin. And I’m okay with that. 10 years from now gold will be 2k+ and silver 300+

  9. ips_stuff says

    Jafmidtx – thank you. I wondered if any of the silver BHOF were shipping. I have about 10 orders from 3/28 to 4/7 and one now show ship date of 06/06/14 for silver proof coins, guess that did not happen

  10. Pittsburgh P says

    This being my favorite design of the series I would have still rather the Mint chose Zion National Park for Utah’s coin… I don’t like how each state is limited to only one coin. There are so many great parks deserving to be placed in this series and cannot be.
    Guess the mint can never really make everyone happy – including me ;-)… It’s either too busy or too plain. Even if it was right in the middle there would be somthin wrong with it 🙂 I love this one & will be buyin a few of both types, in the end buy what you like(unless you feel you have to cause you’re collecting the series…….)

  11. Louis says

    @VAB- Any news about the 3rd Southern Crux coin? I was under the impression it would be released this month.

  12. says

    I will be interested to see this piece’s performance. I personally have a small preference for the GSM’s design, but I’ve heard many people heap compliments on the design of Arches and there seems to be a broad agreement (based entirely on comments I’ve read from fellow collectors) that this is one of the better ones.

  13. thePhelps says

    As far as the Arches coin goes… I guess I’ll have it in hand and decide. While I like the Arch on the coin – the silver proof doesn’t show a whole lot of distinction between the fields. The mountains in the back don’t have a lot of distinction and are more of a distraction than and addition to the coins. Maybe the 5 ounce coin will have a better surface to display the Arch on than the small quarters.

  14. VABEACHBUM says

    @ Louis – Interestingly enough, I had been checking for updates on the RAM website and E-store earlier this AM. I’ve been checking more frequently since June 1st. As of today, nothing new on the next Southern Sky Coin. The Crux hit the market in mid-June 2012, and the Pavo posted in late June 2013, so I’m hoping we’ll see something very soon. I also had been expecting Downies, Direct and others to issue some advance notices, but nothing from them, either. Should I hear something first, I’ll definitely let you know.

  15. Mk says

    For those still waiting, my $5 proof just went to in stock and reserved status. 03/27 6:11pm. So it looks like they’re up to 6:11p.

  16. Mk says

    And ditto for the third southern sky coin. I’ve searched high and low. Not a peep on the release status.

  17. says


    I’ve been to Zion, and while it is an impressive National Park, it would been very difficult to capture it’s majesty on a coin. This was the case with the Grand Canyon ATB coin–no coin can really do it justice. Arches, on the other hand, has many natural structures that can be nicely depicted on a coin, Delicate Arch being the most iconic.
    Again, the coin is beautifully designed. I like the clear, uncluttered field on the upper half of the coin behind the arch–less is more. It is my favorite ATB and I will display it, something I have never done before with a coin.

  18. fmtransmitter says

    Way to go Amazon writers! That is hilarious, thank you for sharing! Too funny…Hire someone who is in the business, you would think…Who even out of the business, would come up with “No mint mark”? Strange

  19. fmtransmitter says

    That’s David Lawrence. He in the biz…Must have been in a rush and didn’t proof read, he is a big seller…

  20. fmtransmitter says

    I drool at many of his coins. He only sells some the best examples I have ever seen…Expensive!

  21. says

    This is from the Mint’s FB page: “The United States Mint’s outstanding numismatic staff has stepped up to the plate to make the highest quality 2014 National Baseball Hall of Fame coins. The team is working hard, operating 3 presses 20 hours each day to get the coins to our customers as fast as possible.”

  22. fmtransmitter says

    Yep, saw that cag. Key word, as fast as possible. How long have they had? Why not wait to launch them til now? Give people a fighting chance…

  23. VA Rich says

    That’s great news, let’s get’em all minted now!

    Quality issues must have driven the current delay, as it’s oddly mentioned in a standalone sentence without really addressing it, & production commenced well before 3/27.

  24. GoldFishin says

    HOF Silver Proofs order time 3-28 8:30 am “in stock and reserved”. CC pinged.

  25. Eddie says

    Has anyone found any cases for a set of the BHoF coins?
    Someone needs to make a high varnished OAK case for a complete set of these coins.

  26. gary says

    @PittP… Yes Mt Zion would have made a good choice for Utah but hey, you have to admit that Arch looks fascinating & great on this coin! Eagerly awaiting my P-Mint 5 ouncer to my set of ATBs.

  27. joe says

    My subscription for the Arches is shown as backordered to 6/27. My silver BHOF coins are now grayed out and my cc has been hit.

  28. Louis says

    VAB et al.- I just heard from a reliable source that the Southern Cross coin is being delayed until the end of the summer, but at least it gives you something to look forward to.

  29. Pittsburgh P says

    Hawkster you make a good point that it would be hard to capure Zion on a coin. It would be tough portraying the narrow red sandstone caverns(which are my favorite sites). I still think, if done right, it would have been spectacular.

    Gary yes I do admit the Arches are great. As I said before these are my favorite design. I’m not knocking this coin by any means just wish they’d allow a state to have more than one site in this series if they are deserving.

    Louis thx for the update on the Southern sky series. I’ve been patiently waitin… I guess the guy selling them on eBay pre order for early next month won’t be making his deadline.

  30. VABEACHBUM says

    @ Louis – Thanks for the update. Did your source happen to indicate what the subject of the third coin might be??

    @ Pittsburgh P – I agree that many of the states have some better offerings that then ones that have been selected for the coins. As with most things, though, opinions and lobbyists will vary. The ATB legislation actually contains language that supports a second rotation through another 56 coins. Tempting, but I just want to make it to the end of the first round, and we’re not half-way there yet.

    I just finished doing a quick search on 2014 “Southern Sky” listings, but didn’t find anything. Can you provide a link, or have those pre-sales already been pulled?

  31. Pittsburgh P says

    Vabeachbum agreed… let’s get thru the first round lol.
    The third Southern Sky coin is of Orion and is pinkish and orange… looks sharp! I’ll post a link in a minute. I wasn’t able to insert it now for some reason… reason it’s not coming up is because it’s in Europe and you have to do a worldwide search.

  32. VABEACHBUM says

    Got it, P. Very nice. Very nice, indeed! I have to wonder if the RAM might be able to identify several other, well known constellations that might continue to support this series to 5 coins or beyond. Although, the fact that the RAM still has the CRUX coins in stock might indicate that the publics’ fascination with their domed coins has faded.

  33. Bob R says

    I wish Alaska would have done something with the Northern Lights…but maybe that would be too difficult.

  34. Peter says

    @Eddie, That is also my question. Us OGP collectors need a way to house the set. I have no interest in the clads, but the four others will look amazing in an oak case.

  35. Pittsburgh P says

    Vabeachbum… Yes it is a nice coin imo.
    I don’t beleive the RAM has Crux still available though. Pavo yes but I don’t think the Crux is still in stock. I’ll have to check that out. I agree the RAM could do this annually for awhile but regardless of them bein able to find constellations this is the third and final coin of the Southern Sky series.

    If they keep makin domed coins as they have this year popularity will fade and quickly. The BHoF set brought a ton of attention to the dome type coin and if production slows imo popularity(and value) will rise. If it becomes common place to see them they may only be slightly above melt with little numismatic value. I believe there are now 13(soon to be at least 14) domed coins since 2009 and 10 of them are 2014’s! Almost a 300% increase…

  36. Louis says

    Thanks, Pittsburgh. I think that may be the best yet. Look for it in late Aug/early Sept.

  37. Bob R says

    I really don’t believe the domed design of the BHOF made the coin, it is the coin itself. If it was a typical flat coin it still would be a big hit and sellout…baseball people would not even think twice about the dome shape but rather the strike and coin itself IMO.

  38. Pittsburgh P says

    @Bob R I cannot agree with you saying if it was flat it would be as big if a hit…. I wish I did to be honest. I LOVE baseball, played thru college and watch a game everyday if I can. I agree the design is great… Simplicity at it’s best but do you really believe the mint woulda went for this designif not for being domed? Not a chance imo… The design was for a domed coin & a perfect one at that. We would have been stuck with either the HoF logo or a generic guy sliding into second base. The first domed coin(and hopefully last) was a major hook… Who bought these coins? Not baseball people but collectors and dealers -mostly 🙁
    Once word gets out imo the clads will go and the secondary market will be hit up for silvers and gold. If this was a flat commemerative coin we’d still be able to buy them directly from the mint imo…

  39. Bob R says

    Yes you are correct but if it was the same design but flat it still would be great. Did she call for a domed coin or was it decided by the mint after the design?

  40. Pittsburgh P says

    It was already decided before the contest for the design began I believe. The ball was designed by a Mint employee and was either chosen or changed to fit the design of a domed piece better… I think all this info is still up on the Mint website.

    Yes if it was the same but flat Id still love it & collectors and/or fans like us would still buy it. I just don’t feel it wouldve had the huge success and sell outs that it did.

  41. Jerry Diekmann says

    As for the Orion coin, it’s nice that they showed how the constellation looks in the northern hemisphere. The hunter would be shown upside down from the southern hemisphere,. Only the four corner stars and the the three belt stars are really bright – the other stars are much fainter aqnd look too bright on the coin.

  42. Bob R says

    @Pittsburgh P forgive me for my lack of knowledge about the coin requirement design. it now makes sense.

  43. Mk says

    @Louis thanks for the southern sky update. I’ll stop perusing for the release date for awhile. I’m really looking forward to the final coin. I recently picked up the 2009 France Year of Astronomy curved coin. Since I’ve suddenly become a collector of the curved circus coins, it seemed like a good idea. Lol

  44. Jerry Diekmann says

    Regarding the comments on other sites that could have been selected for the ATB coins, most of the western states have more than one national park (California and Utah especially) that could be shown on a second issue of ATB coins if there ever is one. You could probably devote a whole series to just California parks and monuments, with Sequoia National Park being the premier park, as it was created way back in 1890. California also has Death Valley, Kings Canyon, Lassen Volcanic, and Redwoods national parks, plus many national monuments. Utah has several great national parks and monuments too, Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef, and Canyonlands. Colorado has Rocky Mountain and Dinosaur national parks. Wyoming has the beautiful Grand Teton national park and Devil’s Tower national monument. The idea of national parks and monumentsdidn’t enter into Americans’ consciousness until John Muir advocated their creation in the last quarter of the 19th century, and by that time the eastern states had all been settled, with little thought to preserving the natural environment for future generations. Great Smoky Mountains and Shenandoah national parks were not created until we were well into the 20th century, and settlers actually were displaced and relocated so that these parks could even come into existence. Sadly, by that time, all the virgin forests had been cut down and all we have now is second and third-growth forests and woodlands. This country owes an immense debt of gratitude to John Muir and Theodore Roosevelt for recognizing the need to preserve these national wonders for future generations to visit and enjoy.

  45. Pittsburgh P says

    Bob R Im glad its makin sense a I could be of help… No need to ask forgivness for lack of knowledge… if we were all doing that I would be apologizing every minute of every day 🙂 Imo thats what this & sites like it are here for. To find out about things we don’t know of & to share what we do.

    Jerry well said… We will see if some of the other deserving parks get a coin if/when the next round occurs.

  46. Don says

    Jerry D,
    I agree 100% with your above comments. Those three states in particular (California, Utah, and Colorado) have a number of beautiful National Parks. It’s unfortunate that the ATB series can’t be expanded in the future to include more of the popular National Parks. Can you imagine an image of Bryce Canyon with its hoodoos depicted on a coin? Although not a NP, Monument Valley in Arizona, very popular tourist site, would also look great on a coin.

  47. VABEACHBUM says

    @ Jerry – Some great points about the portrayal of the Orion Constellation. I also had thought about the fundamental shape and the 7-8 stars that define the shape from our view in the Northern Hemisphere, vice the plethora of stars the RAM has placed onto their design. I still expect it to be superb, and will add one to the collection.

    WRT the Arches ATB-P Subscription orders, my ship date has moved up from 6/27 to 6/19, similar to Shenandoah – and just as we had suspected.

    Great Weekend All!

  48. fmtransmitter says

    I would like to see some sort of rendition of the 4 corners sight…Futuristic in nature and the planned spot of the Mother ship landing…Those who know this will agree…

  49. fmtransmitter says

    Wow, out of the blue my clad proof on 3/30 is in stock and reserved…They pumped those out quite quick…FINALLY…

  50. fmtransmitter says

    Eddie says
    JUNE 12, 2014 AT 5:23 PM

    Has anyone found any cases for a set of the BHoF coins?
    Someone needs to make a high varnished OAK case for a complete set of these coins.
    China will…

  51. fmtransmitter says

    VA Rich says
    JUNE 12, 2014 AT 4:53 PM

    That’s great news, let’s get’em all minted now!

    Quality issues must have driven the current delay, as it’s oddly mentioned in a standalone sentence without really addressing it, & production commenced well before 3/27.
    Broken bat??

  52. says

    fmt, Would the individual cases be ok for you. I think APMEX had some the last time I was there looking at their display cases, I’m assuming you meant for the slabs.

    Arches -P 5 oz. moved up to 6-19.

    It looks like Iraq is taking a toll on PM’s.

  53. Dave says

    Snagged an Arches bullion this morning – bullion version. Can’t wait to see how it looks in I the shiny version. My first non-graded bullion puck. No graded versions yet available. Not even 68 or 69. You’d think they could have at least that much confidence.

  54. Eddie says

    Thank you Peter for the interest in my question. I am wanting all 6 because that is how many there is in the set.
    If anyone hears of one please let us know.

  55. Peter says

    I collect books in addition to coins, and the resellers on Amazon are terrible compared to ebay. They are not policed, and the prices are higher like for like. Them venturing into the coin business will likely attract an even shadier group than the ones you contend with on ebay. At least on ebay there are a good number of reputable private buyers and sellers.

  56. Saucexx says


    Both Gold and Silver Unc and Proof HOFs ordered on the 27th are IS&R. The mint dinged my card pretty bad in the last couple of days. The arches AtB is showing BO though, strange.

  57. Steve says

    I just can’t take Amazon seriously selling coins. It’s like Dunkin Donuts selling fine watches.

  58. fmtransmitter says

    @Steve: Ill never forget this guy bought a book and told him to list watches for .99 on Amazon because they will always sell for a profit so he did. I was the unlucky first customer to win the auction for much less than retail and he refused to sell it to me. Told him it would be good to just bite this one bullet and move on, no such luck. lol No Amazon Police so your so right, buyer BEWARE on the ZON!

  59. fmtransmitter says

    Correction, I think this was Overstock when it first started. Either way…eBay does a really good job protecting buyers and I applaud them for that…Steep pcnt like that, they better!

  60. says

    fmt, Good question, but it’s worth a try, both state 1.5 in.

    I have a question- Has anyone watched the price of the 2008 ASE unc. with reverse of the `07, like the PCGS MS69 that’s been listed for auction to the right of the thread here.
    I’d like to know where the prices have been since `08.

  61. HarryB says

    Dusty: I purchased a 08 with reverse of 07 ASE graded NGC MS70 from MCM from an Ebay auction for $240, in 08 when they were first identified. I believe I purchased the first one MCM sold, using Ebay to determine a retail price. Harry.

  62. says

    I have been interested in these since finding out about them, but don’t know much about the price history.
    I would really like to know if the prices have been steady or steadily rising.

  63. GoldFishin says

    @Dusty – I purchased one NGC MS 70 Reverse 07 for $550 in 2010 and sold it about 6 months later for around $800. $700-$900 was the going price in mid 2010 for NGC graded 70’s, much higher for the PCGS graded First Strikes, I am thinking around$1500 for those. You can hardly find a First Strike anymore. I couldn’t say what they are worth today. I would say easy double over NGC non early release, probably in the neighborhood of $2000 I am guessing. I can’t find a sold one on Ebay.

    I have a very good coin dealer friend that had sent in an entire monster box of silver eagles to be graded at PCGS as was his routine each year. After he submitted the box for grading the story came out about the reverses. He ended up with an entire monster box of PCGS graded First Strike coins, many of them grading 70. He still has at least half of them in his massive safe.

  64. says

    You are right, Mark. These were the uncirculated versions of the silver eagles and, as such, were sold directly from the Mint and issued encapsulated in Mint packaging. They were never found In the monster boxes, as these contain bullion silver eagles.

  65. says

    It’s amazing to me that PCGS grades can double the prices of these. I have to admit that I favor PCGS, but by only a small margin, I would certainly not hesitate at buying an NGC graded coin, not at all, I have many. Actually, having so many people rushing to buy the PCGS graded `08 with `07 rev may serve as a nice divergence (if I can use the word this way) to help get an NGC MS70 at a decent price. If it’s free of problems, it could even resubmitted to PCGS, sorry NGC.

  66. stephen m says

    Dustyroads, for some reason I ordered 10 MS w’s from the mint in 08. Two were of the 07 reverse. I never got the 2 graded and still have them both in OGP. Very unique coins with a good future for increasing value. Should the two coins be graded?

  67. says

    By the way, I purchased a 3″ translucent plastic easel -type display stand to display the Arches puck (Michael’s). With a 50 per cent off coupon it came to all of $1.50. To make sure that it would work as a puck holder, I cut out a 3″ circular piece of cardboard and tried it out at Michael’s–it worked perfectly.
    If these pucks are being displayed individually, this is a good way to do it. The capsule rim actually works as a “frame” when mounted on the display stand. There is no need for the expensive 3D frames that were previously discussed on this blog.

  68. GoldFishin says

    @Dustyroads…my mistake on the monster box…for some reason because he has so many of them my brain was thinking monster box when I posted last night. The guy has been is business for 42 years and every now and then he said you get lucky. I tried to pry one away from him about 4 years ago when he showed them to me, but he wouldn’t let one go. He showed me at least ten of the blue 20 coin holders full of them. He had four 20 coin holders of the 2006 P Silver Eagle Reverse proof FS 70’s and wouldn’t sell me one of those either. I had some money burning a hold in my pocket that day(tax refund) so I ended up buying a 2009 W Black Diamond Buffalo 70 grade. I got it at a pretty good price and am still up on it for what I paid, but I would have done much better if he would sold me a few of the other coins. I sort of regret selling my 08 -07 reverse, but back in 2010 I thought prices were getting a little bit crazy and that maybe I could buy one back cheaper later, but I never have got around to buying one back so I don’t own one at all.

  69. Bernie in Florida says

    Hey guys! Does “ANYONE” know where one can find storage Boxes for the ATB’s 5 oz Coins that have been certified By PCGS or NGC Slabbed? I have searched High and Low. But cannot find a storage box, case, or any plastic containers that either come from PCGS or NGC that one can store the Slabbed Versions of these ATB’s 5 oz Over Sized Slabbed Coins. Help !!! 🙂

  70. Bernie in Florida says

    Hawkster, that’s a great idea. But if you come up or find a way or even someone that can do the same for the Certified versions from PCGS or NGC “Please” let me know. I have 5 display cases for all my ASE’s (Silver Eagles PCGS’s) that were only $49 to display 20 at a time. But I CANNOT find ANYTHING to Box, case, storage or MUCH less be able to display my certified ATB’s 5 oz PCGS Coins. You or anyone else has any ideas Please let me know. I thought I could easily go on ebay and find a plastic box at least that PCGS or NGC sends their 5 oz Slabbed Coins out. But Nothing. Anyone HELP 🙂

  71. says

    If you want to display the slabbed ATB pucks individually, the Michael’s easels I referred to would also work great. Instead of a round capsule “frame” you would instead have a rectangular slab frame to place on the easel.

  72. Ralph says

    Anyone notice the long delay in the Mint’s website being down? First, it was to be down for maintenance until 8 this morning. The it was moved to 2. It was just moved to 6 now. ??
    Maybe something to do with the fact one of my HOF orders was moved to a 6/12 ship date yesterday?

  73. Clark says

    I’ve been critical of NGC at times, so I need to give it a shout out for unexpectedly fast fast turnaround it gave me this week. I sent five $5 BHOFs for grading on Monday, they arrived Tuesday and were graded & shipped on Friday. The best part is that used my annual renewal coupon for free Early Bird service for all five. If the postal service would improve registered mail service, it would be a home run. Nice job NGC.

  74. fmtransmitter says

    @Bernie in Florida says: Just get those plastic stands used for regular coins but bigger to hold the those monster slabs…To me they take away from the coin, too big. PCGS does a great job with their 5 oz slabs, enhances the coin….

  75. says

    Stephen, The `08 with rev of `07’s demand a great deal more if they are given a 70 grade, and it looks like a great deal more if graded by PCGS. I don’t mean to suggest that they should be graded, but if I owned the two you have, I would certainly consider it if they appear to be in flawless condition, if not, I personally would leave them in their original Mint box.

  76. billb says

    Given the lack of feedback and newness for both bidders, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are shill bidders for the seller, setup to try and prop up the prices for a future auction.

  77. Louis says

    @Clark. NGC has been really on the ball with these coins. How did you do in terms of grades?

  78. GoldFishin says

    Way off topic – Does anyone here have a PO Box where you have your packages shipped on a regular basis? If so, how does it work when the US Mint ships via Fed-Ex or UPS? If I put an PO Box as my shipping address on file with the US Mint and then a package gets shipped from the Mint via something other than the Postal Service, how does it work, since only the post office will deliver to a PO BOX.? I would really appreciate any help anyone can give me. I would like to get away from shipping and receiving packages at my home address for security purposes. Thanks in advance if anyone can help.

  79. SilverFan says

    From the UPS website:

    UPS will only accept shipments to a valid street address. We do not deliver to P.O. Boxes. If a shipper should use a P.O. Box address, the recipient´s telephone number must be included on the label. Your package that is addressed to a P.O. Box may be delayed, will not be covered by any UPS Service Guarantee, and will require an address correction charge. Additionally, Army Post Office (APO) and Fleet Post Office (FPO) addresses are not accepted.

  80. Zaz says

    @GoldFishin: ALL my orders with the Mint has gone to USPS PO Box since 2008. It’s a good safety measure particularly for e-Bay transactions and for the occasional coin I sell there. With the Mint they use FedEx Smart Post under/over 1LB shipping if the order is under $300, USPS Priority Mail if gold or over $300. They never use UPS as far as I can remember. I have noticed it takes 1 or 2 additional processing days in the queue unlike orders going to a regular physical street address. Your post office might also offer street address delivery for your PO box, in which case UPS will deliver to it. In seven years with Mint boxes, I’ve never missed a shipment, had it misplaced or shipped back because I didn’t pick it up in time. It does take a little bit longer to receive items, but for security and peace of mind against loss and theft, it’s a godsend. I have had my current PO Box since 2001.

  81. GoldFishin says

    Zaz – thank you so much for understanding my question! The post employee gave me a physical address that I could use for deliveries with UPS and FedEX. However, I was unsure how it would work with the US Mint, since they use all three services. So, did you just put your PO Box on file with the US Mint and they convert the address depending on which service they use, or do you have to be aware of the value of the package and change the address that you use depending on which service will be used. Thank you if you could explain how you put your PO Box on file with the US Mint and also Ebay if you use them. Thank YOU!!!

  82. GoldFishin says

    Zaz – I just successfully changed my Ebay shipping address. I did it like this..

    Joe Sixpack
    P O Box 7766
    222 Dip Stick Rd. #7766 (Physical address of Post Office)
    Your City, AK 99999-7766

    Is that how you do it on the US Mint as well? Their site has been down all day, so I can’t test it there.

  83. VA Bob says

    My experience is if you us a PO Box address for the Mint, they will always use USPS to deliver, even if it’s gold or over $300, they won’t ship via UPS or FedEx (unless it’s smart post).

  84. GoldFishin says

    Thank you guys! I am going to wait until after my Arches ship and test the PO BOX with my next order. I will call the Mint early next week and ask them about it. Thanks again!

  85. S. Knight says

    I sure miss the ANIMAL(S) /HUMAN(S) in the coin.

    It rather helps contribute dimension to the coin.

    Saving the various animals always made the previous coins more meaningful.

  86. McLovin says

    UPS actually ships to my PO BOX. Maybe it depends where you leave, but the truck goes to my PO everyday.

  87. AkBob says

    UPS delivers to my Post Office too. We only have PO Boxes where I live as there is NO residential delivery and the Mint ships UPS to me and it goes to my PO Box. I don’t know what the rules are but I just know they deliver to me.

  88. says

    @GoldFishin, I have everything from the Mint going to a PO Box. Never had any problems except the tracking numbers that originally show on the Mint’s website and in emails never work. The original tracking numbers always end up with Alpha letters UPS and that should not be a part of any tracking number. They also leave off a numeric number so you can just drop the UPS and use 0-9 until you get the correct number. The Mint is aware of the problem but with all the changes going on at the Mint I guess it will be addressed this fall when they change over to the new system…

  89. Ralph says

    This is very interesting. I never thought of a PO box. I used to have them delivered to my home, but when the Mint switched to 2nd day instead of overnight on orders over $300, packages don’t arrive early. I was getting them by 10:30. I’d just go into work after (packages need to be signed for) . Now, with 2nd day, they don’t come until the end of the day.
    I switched them to be delivered where I work, but I’m finding I’m not all that comfortable with that. Too many nosy co-workers. Plus, I don’t sign for it. That is done by the shipper. If for any reason a package get’s signed for and isn’t there would be a nightmare.
    I’m going to open a PO box next week. Thanks everyone!

  90. says

    GoldFishin, The US Mint has been problem free delivering to my P.O. The package is sent by Fed Ex then dropped off at a larger towns post office 5 miles up the road. When it’s out for delivery it gets dropped off at the post office in my town. The Mint has no more than my P.O. on file and I have never had a problem with shipping from them. Amazon on the other hand needs to have both my P.O. and my physical to insure that the packaged is not shipped back to them. Just to be on the safe side, call your post office and ask.

  91. GoldFishin says

    @Thank you everybody…I feel so much better about my decision!

    @Ralph – it only cost me $40 for six months. I think is a small price to pay for more secure delivery, plus I can avoid everyone and their brother from knowing my home address when I sell or buy on Ebay. I am thankful to you all for the discussion and information.

  92. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    This will be a fast seller. Got higher priorities, have to pass. It’s funny how humans are like animals.
    Let the fish go for the bait.

  93. Hidalgo says

    I decided to check prices for “sold” Baseball Hall of Fame gold coins on eBay. I was quite surprised at how dramatically secondary market prices have fallen for certified and uncertified coins. On the other hand, I am not surprised, as I had been predicting the crash after the US Mint shipped out its second shipment. Where secondary market prices will stabilize in the long-term remains to be seen.

    The silver coins seem to be faring a bit better at this time. However, I can see prices plunging when the US Mint ships its second batch of silver coins to buyers. As I previously mentioned, 400,000 coins is a lot of coins…. Increased supplies with lower demand will lead to lower secondary market prices.

  94. Pittsburgh P says

    @hildago are you surprised or are you not surprised & claiming you forsaw the future 🙂 jk
    I have not been watchin the ebay sales of the BHoF coins like you but I think everyone predicted the prices to drop and then stabalize… I think they have began the second wave of silver shipments already too. Agreed that 400,000 is quite a few but I still beleive even the silver once stable in a year or so will demand a healthy premium…

  95. Hidalgo says

    @Pittsburgh – I am surprised at how quickly prices have fallen in such a short period of time. What I’m seeing is that the market has “popped” for the gold BHOF coins. Prices plummeted precipitously in a short period of time. (Note: it seems that prices are still holding up relatively well for the PCGS graded coins. However, the NGC graded coins have not fared so well).

    Also, not everyone predicted prices to drop and stabilize a few weeks ago. Check out some of my earlier posts when several bloggers commented on my forecasts. I posted my analyses to help others deal with market fluctuations in the precious metals and collectibles market. I certainly hope that it helped a few….

  96. thePhelps says

    Short term forecasting isn’t exactly that difficult. If you look at nearly all major releases over the last few years this cycle is pretty much the same. The price jumps at the end of the release and as the buyers dry up the price drops.

    Nothing scientific about it – or even that hard to predict.

    What is going to be hard to find is where the value holds once the market has all the coins released. I don’t really follow the peaks and valleys of a release over the months right after the coins are sold. (I’m not a flipper so those prices mean little to me). I’ll be more interested in what the coins are selling for 10 years from now – if someone can accurately predict that – I am all ears!

  97. GMS says

    Exactly thePhelps! Even die hard income redistribution advocates still understand supply and demand. If you want to impress me tell me the price of silver next year. Happy Fathers Day to all us Dad’s. Now off to the coin show to see what’s moving.

  98. fmtransmitter says

    cagcrisp says
    JUNE 14, 2014 AT 5:51 PM

    Someone want to explain to me what happened here? Did 2 people just get into a bidding war in the last few minutes and just not want to get beat? Did someone just misread the offering?

    I wouldn’t give any credence to bidders with 1 or 2 feedbacks cag…

  99. says

    Hey everyone. I’m surprised at everyone’s surprise at how the prices for the BHOF gold and silver are falling. That happens all in the time with anything new that is limited when it hits the market…….cars, toys, clothes, etc. Once you hear something is gone or in short supply everyone panics and is willing to pay almost anything. But then more appear and prices drop and stabilize. I’m not a flipper but when I see that something that I bought has comfortably doubled in value and stays there…….I’m very happy! There are not too many investments around that literally double in a few weeks and stay there! Happy Fathers Day to all where appropriate.

  100. Ray says

    We are definitely in the “bell” portion of the curve for BHoF. It should “saddle” after an unspecified time period.

  101. Ray says

    OT, anyone have an idea as to what the clad sets will cost? I got the survey for this a while ago and remember them asking if I would pay around $100 for a 4 coin silver set, which is a no brainer. And gold should be around 1200 as others have posted. But I’ve no idea what the clad set will cost. 39.95 is my best guess, but i really dont know. Anyone have an educated guess? I’m still green when it comes to coin collecting. I’ve been in it for about 1.5 years. But I haven’t bought many clad offerings. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thx

  102. Pittsburgh P says

    @Hildago just saw your reply… You said it yourself that since the mint decided to ship more BHoF coins that demand therefore price will drop. I may not have read all your earlier posts in the replies to them but I don’t believe many people would be surprised by this. If they were they’re either misinformed, naive, or extremely optimistic… Also, to your point about the TPGs I found that PCGC seems to bring higher value than NGC most of the time not just for the BHoFs. Not sure why but I’m not at TPG expert by any means & rarely use either of them. Another reason why prices may be dropping is because many buyers may wait to see if they can get a better deal so less demand. This may backfire because if this is the bottom or close to it they just might have to pay more in a year or so after all the coins are finally on the secondary market or in collections. Personally I am bullish on these for the future. I will hold the ones I still have & the ones I’ll be gettin from the Mint. There is no empirical data that can be used to even try to make an educated guess on the long term performance of these so I can only go with my gut…
    I must agree with about everything thePhelps posted in reply also.

    As a fellow poster says I’m just gonna relax and enjoy the ride 🙂
    I’ll add in August we will be arguing over the JFK commemerative sets & gold anyway!

    To all fathers- HAPPY FATHER’S DAY!!!

  103. Pittsburgh P says

    JFK clad 2 coin set will be around 20$ imo maybe a little more depending how they’re offered.

  104. Clark says

    Hi Louis–I did very well. Of five golds, two MS70, two PF70 & one PF69. These were the very same ones I was lamenting on this board ~ two weeks ago when I first received and examined them with a 10x loupe. I guess it’s true that graders use only 5x because I saw several flaws on three. Thanks for asking. You’re absolutely right about NGC being on the ball. I was promised 12 business day “Early Bird” service and received FOUR calendar day turnaround from receipt by NGC to the date on which it shipped them back to me. Wow!

  105. Clark says

    Also, I’m keeping all five and those from the April batch that all came back MS/PF70. I add this point because I’m one of the chorus here who predicted a price drop, then stabilization in a year or so. However, if my desire to keep all these precious, unique gold BHoFs is shared by most collectors, the expected sharp increase in supply may not be as high as predicted, which would result in continued relative scarcity and/or a faster increase after the drop. JMO.

  106. Bernie in Florida says

    Hy guys, Does “ANYONE” know where one can find storage Boxes for the ATB’s 5 oz Coins that have been certified By PCGS or NGC Slabbed? I have searched High and Low. But cannot find a storage box, case, or any plastic containers that either come from PCGS, NGC or after Market that one can store the Slabbed Versions of these ATB’s 5 oz Over Sized Slabbed Coins. Help !!!

  107. GoldFishin says

    @Pitt , @ Phelps – Nice posts! @Clark – Congrats!

    As far as HOF gold prices, it is very important to distinguish between 3 different main categories when discussing pricing.
    1- Coins graded 70 either PCGS/FS or NGC/ER
    2-Coins graded 70 either PCGS or NGC non-first strike or non- early release
    3- OGP coins

    *Note- 69 graded coins seem to fall in between the category of non-ER/FS and OGP.

    1-There are currently only 43 listings available total for PCGS or NGC FS/ER graded 70. This number continues to fall every week. Only 11 of those are auction style. As Hildago mentioned, the PCGS coins in this category are still selling for around $1500 give or take and have not seen much drop at all. The NGC ER 70 coins have fallen on average about $250-300, but seem to have a solid floor around $1200. I believe this category will always have a premium over any other. (except the opening day – first pitch releases).

    2- The coins graded 70 by either NGC or PCGS, but are not FS/ER, have seen a huge influx of supply over the past couple weeks and I believe this will continue for a couple more weeks as more purchasers send their coins in for grading. This is a relatively new category and has seen prices fall from slightly over $1000 to as low as $800, but have seemed to have very good demand and prices have begun to stabilize and even rise a little with many auctions currently closing in the $850-$900 range. Most of the coins in this category are coming from the huge retail sellers and they seemed to have chosen to go with NGC graded coins, maybe because of the lower fees and fake signature labels.

    3- OGP prices have taken the biggest hit with prices recently closing in the $700 -$725 range. In my opinion if a person was never able to purchase the gold coins from the Mint, this is your chance to Buy Now. I think the US Mint has now fulfilled the majority of the $5 gold coins or are in the process of shipping them. So, as this biggest category of supply begins to get sold off prices should begin to steady and I think will eventually trade in the $800-$900 range again this year.

    To Clark’s point I have been somewhat surprised that not more supply has found its way on to Ebay. There seems to be plenty of OGP supply from flipper’s, but graded supply has remained relatively subdued outside of a few huge retailers. It seems a lot of folks have sold what they want and are now holding what they have remaining for the long haul.

    As Pitt P. and others have said “enjoy the ride”. Happy Father’s Day!

  108. says

    Bernie, I read your post yesterday and looked at a few sites. Unfortunately, all I could find where some nice storage boxes that Wizard had for sell for the ANACS slabs only, no NGC or PCGS. This may be a good opportunity to contact a good costume wood worker and have one made.

  109. Bernie in Florida says

    Dustyroads, Wow! I searched high and low and this is the First I have ever seen that even comes close. I only wish it were more like the Multi-Slab large boxes that NGC puts out that holds ten at a time like the Normal Plastic Slab holders for ASE or the Normal size Slabs from PCGS or NGC that hold 20 at a time. But, at least if I cannot come up with simpler container. At least you gave me a possibility. I may just go to the FUN Coin Show in July here in Orlando and go over to PCGS and NGC and ask then how do they ship 10 of these Large Slabs at once to customers. Seemed So simple, but Dustyroads I want to thank you again,,,,,,,,,,,,,” Anyone find a smaller more economical was of storage like 10 Slabs at a time, much like the PCGS or NGC regular Slab holder that holds 20 at a time, PLEASE let me know”………………..

  110. Clark says

    Thanks, Louis & GF.

    I really appreciate GF’s insights & fresh stats on BHoF sales price trends. If it’s true that most gold BHoF purchasers are collectors, then it’s interesting to review the program in the context of collectors of U.S. modern coins (gold BHoF only):

    – Because gold $5s sold out in just seven hours, it’s highly likely that most went to collectors who were following the program, endured the mint’s online system waits, etc., and probably ordered several coins once the long wait made it obvious that this was a very popular series.

    – Modern coin collectors are accustomed to paying almost $2000 in recent years for gold buffaloes, gold eagles, etc. so at only $420/$425 per gold BHoF coin, it isn’t unusual for collectors to pick up 4-5 in one or several different orders and to keep all or most of them.

    – Collecting gold coins is an expensive hobby. Most collectors I know don’t buy them to flip because they need the money, they have enough liquid income to buy gold, build collections, and keep them together.

    – Purchase limits of 50 per household, although high, helped slow warehouse resellers with resources to buy out most of the inventory from doing so and probably placed more orders in the hands of patient collectors. Warehouse resellers are probably selling mostly to collectors who missed the short window on 3/27… those collectors will probably keep what they buy because of high premiums and because they are collectors.

    – 80,000 units sold in less than seven hours to people buying several at a time and who are predisposed to keep them makes it likely that far less than 80,000 will enter the secondary markets after all orders are fulfilled.

    – The unusual twist of third-party grading services dividing the secondary market of gold BHoFs into many different designer and athlete signature products furthers the collector focus of the series and suggests more buy and hold collector behavior.

    Draw your own conclusions, but if gold BHoF coins really are in the hands of collectors, secondary market supply may be a lot thinner than even we BHoF groupies may realize. Don’t say we didn’t tell you!

  111. Don says


    Eventually the silver HOF coins will also dead end in the hands of collectors who don’t already have them, after being snapped up on the secondary market.
    It is the coin’s uniqueness and cross appeal with not only coin collectors but also baseball fans that will eventually make them hard to come by on the secondary market. People will want to keep these for the long term.

  112. Brice says

    Anybody have their back ordered gold HOF coins cancelled by the mint yet and been notified out of stock? Just curious as mine still showing back ordered and a ship date of 06/30. Thanks in advance!!

  113. ips_stuff says

    >> Brice – I have approximately 4 orders with gold proof or unc from early 3/28 to 3/31 and all still show 6/30 as the date. I would tend to agree with another poster, that the gold have been shipped and most likely I will not receive any more gold bhof. I did receive all that I ordered on 3/27 during the 1st round of shipping.

  114. Peter says

    Hope this helps. A dealer at Long Beach who deals in many modern coins from the mint told me that the BHOF gold did NOT sell out for at least 24 hours from the noon 03/27 release. This was good news for me (03/28 @ 1:00 A.M.). He felt that orders slightly beyond the 24 hour mark would likely receive their orders too.

  115. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    Ordered $1 silver baseball coin back in April I think it was. At the time it was not sold out. Still haven’t rec’d it yet, but the Mint did not charge me. This is very poor service by the Mint. Screw the Mint.
    Also, screw eBay. They have the worst service since they’ve been hacked. I do NOT trust eBay any more!

  116. Pittsburgh P says

    mcscrooge tell us how you really feel… None of this sugar coating!
    Screw the government and all makers of processed food! Don’t trust em… Screw everyone!!!

  117. fmtransmitter says

    Thanks bloggers. Only clad proof in stock. Silver uncirc and clad uncirc still waiting. 3/30 order. HOF

  118. Sith says

    @fmtransmitter – My clad and all the other are still showing back order. Two months and counting, after getting the initial coins ordered I have yet to receive a single coin (clad, silver,gold)

  119. says

    I’ve probably been as bullish on the OGP Gold BHOF coins as anyone. There is nothing that I have seen on the bay that has changed my mind. I do a ‘specific’ search since day 1 on the Golds. Exactly the same search every day and I list prices on an excel spreadsheet. My Day 1 order for Golds was 1:15PM. Best guesses were that the first Proofs quit shipments around 1:05PM so my order was one of the first sent out when the 2nd wave went out. According to my spreadsheet 227 Gold OGP’s were sold on the bay in the first 70 days. In the last 8 days there has been 197 Golds sold in OGP.

  120. says

    The Mint’s excel spreadsheet is out and here is the results of the BHOF coins:

    Gold Proof 38,839 -63
    Gold Unc. 21,879 -11
    Silver Proof 285,651 -249
    Silver Unc. 149,422 -131
    Clad Proof 184,565 +3,222
    Clad Unc. 105,434 +2,613

  121. A&L Futures says

    @ cagcrisp,

    That’s 60,718 gold coins sold with a maximum mintage of 50,000? I don’t get it.

  122. says

    @A&L Futures, The Mint sells more that the 50k because there will be cancellations, credit card problems or exceeding household limits. There will be 10k+ of someone not getting their orders filled

  123. Clark says

    Don–If my logic for gold $5s applies to silver $1s, then the long term secondary market supply of silver BHoFs would be five times larger of whatever the supply of available gold BHoF coins will be. (80,000 gold:400,000 silver = 1:5). However, it will be logistically harder for collectors to hold & store the more plentiful and larger sized (slabbed & OGP) silver BHoFs.

    Another reason my view of long term supply silver BHoFs differs from my view on future availability of gold BHoFs, is that the quick sell out of gold BHoFs drove warehouse resellers, flippers and others to order many more silver BHoFs than they originally intended to buy in anticipation of high demand for the series. I wouldn’t be surprised if some folks placed orders just to hasten a sellout of silver BHoFs. They are closely watching what happens as the mint distributes all 400K silver $1s: If secondary mkt prices drop low enough to make resale unattractive, many will cancel pending orders for silver BHoFs. Large scale cancellations of silver BHoF orders would introduce another significant difference between gold and silver BHoF supplies. Again, just my lonely opinion and only time will tell, but it is fascinating to watch.

  124. Mike says

    @Clark – Not sure where you are getting the 80,000 number for gold BHoFs. The mintage limit is 50,000 for gold.

  125. Clark says

    Whoops, Cag, I meant to refer to the 50,000 mintage limit on gold BHoF coins. Sorry about that, but the reasoning still applies…just change my gold:silver ratio from 1:5 to 1:8. Thanks for catching that.

  126. VA Rich says

    This is FREAK’N CRAZY – check this out – so this brown box from Novitex just shows up – I don’t know what it is, I’m not expecting anything as my BHoFs are IS&R and nothing has shipped.., THOUGH a $1 UNC should have shipped last week though did not.

    Well.., I open it wondering if may be a SNP Puck but the weight is off…, low and behold.., it’s a B33! A $1 PRF just shows up out of the blue! Looks good too! Crazy!

  127. VA Rich says

    Oh, & if I may add, this $1 that just showed up, perhaps one of the best I’ve seen.., real solid strike and the ‘P’ & ‘DE’ are crisper than from the previous lots.

  128. VA Rich says

    I went back and double checked the status of the $1 PRF that arrived this afternoon – it’s a 7 pm order on 3/27 – still shows IS&R, with no tracking number on the mint website and no shipping email received.

    GF, Clark, Cag, Don, etc. – love the analysis, great stuff, keep it coming! The fact that we’re not even 90 days into this yet and the door is wide open for the BHoF in category 1-3 to head off in any direction.., well, that speaks volumes! I know it’s easy to get attached to the little buggers and end up holding on to more than you ever planned.., selling one $5 offsets retaining a lot of $1s!

  129. Mark Rex says

    Can someone please post the excel number for the Arches Puck? I don’t have access to a PC for a few and can’t download it. It will be interesting to see the number with the site being down for 2 days so 2-3 days of sales. Noticed between my first sub order number and last for the Arches compared to SNP went down by 500.

  130. Johann says

    I guess the mint is sending without notification. UPS left a notice from shipper Novitex. I check my mint account and nothing shipped, but it’s 1/2 lb. so I guess it’s another gold BHoF. And yes I received all my bags long ago.

  131. KEITHSTER says

    Picked up some 2014-D Arches rolls at the bank today as I don’t often open the rolls one of them had a mind of it’s own and once out of the bank jumped from my hand and cracked it’s self open on the sidewalk with 7 trying to escape! Nice try but they didn’t get to far but looking at them they seem to have a hologram effect on the background mountains by turning them in to the sunlight they come and go lazer polishing maybe? The GB- S #s seemed to have ended up at 1,316,580 mine have been instock & reserved since they went out card was pending and still no movment somethings up there but they should ship soon? My proof clad 50 center BHOF is set for the 18th yeah whats the chance ? Well Good Luck All :>:>:>

  132. says

    KEITHSTER, When I got my GB-S roll last year I wasn’t able to see the reverse since both ends were obverses. I really liked the SNP-S quarters, they appear more proof like than other quarters. I’ve been buying all these since they were introduced by the Mint back in 2012, and like putting them US Mint presentation boxes, I call it fun for just a little money.

  133. KEITHSTER says

    Yes does seem to fit these coins when held in hand and moved around the reflective light makes the background mountains disappear and reappear so acting as if the coin had a mind of its own. 5 rolls seemed to be the limit today at the bank so I didn’t push the issue and do not usually walk out of the bank with rolls in hand but did today and it sure seemed that roll made a group effort to get away and open it self up and it worked? But that’s ok I’ll get more and get to enjoy the naughty ones that tried to escape:) So enjoy them and Good Luck All:>:>:>

  134. KEITHSTER says

    I here you Dustyroads where else can you get semi-keys by the roll on the cheap they go for a $ each now so when all the ATB clad collections get put together by the newbies because they can’t afford anything else guess what’s missing ? After the proof’s these and the silvers are it! But I still have the most fun getting them for even money from my spot:>:>:>:>:>Like I’ve said before but needs repeating when I got my GB’s from the bank and pulled a roll from my pocket and checked it out outside in the sun when the sunlight hit it just right that tree lit up like a Christmas tree vivid green and red and blue all over the tree like Christmas lights:) So if you have an unc .GB-D try it it’s crazy hope it works with the S’s but have not tried it should even with the heavier strike will let you know when they ship them? If someone has an unc P roll please take them for a walk on a sunny day and let us know if them P trees light up also?? Good Luck To You All :>:>:>

  135. jimb says

    I have a order in for 1 of the P Arches. I only buy the ones that I like or if I have visited that NP. I have to say the mints constant ship date changing is a bit goofy. I ordered on the 1st day of release and the expected ship date has changed about 4 times. I know of no other business that sells in this manor. Very goofy

  136. Ralph says

    Seems we are almost at the half way mark on the halves, 290,000. I’m guessing these coins will do better than expected. Lowest ebay fixed price is twice the cost.
    Here we go again: One of my HOF orders is moving in the wrong direction. On 6/13, it went to a 6/12 ship date. Yesterday, it went to 6/6. I called to see what’s up, and right away you get a recording saying the ship dates are all screwed up again. Good thing they shut down for a day and a half to work on things!

  137. CW says

    I find it doubtful that anyone beyond coin collectors wants the HOF coins. Flippers can keep dreaming that the demand is high, but the slump is showing that is not the case.

  138. ridgerunner says

    I finally got 1 proof HOF silver ordered on 3/27 the 2 uncirculated were shipped last Tues. The other order 10 days later have been pushed to the end of July, on a different note, I can see the JFK coins being worse than this. My take is the gold JFK being 3/4 ounce 24k will be at least $1250 to $1350 if gold stays between $1250 & $1300 per ounce, I am basing that on the 1/2 ounce president wives.

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