2018 Breast Cancer Awareness Commemorative Coin Design Competition to Open August 1

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The U.S. Mint has shared details for its upcoming 2018 Breast Cancer Awareness Commemorative Coin design competition, scheduled to kick off on August 1.

The competition will select one winning artist whose obverse and reverse designs will be used for all three Breast Cancer Awareness coins. The pertinent legislation mandates the release of the three issues, the mintage limits of which are set at 50,000 $5 gold coins, 400,000 silver dollars, and 750,000 clad half dollars. This program is perhaps best known for its planned inclusion of “pink gold” in the composition of its $5 gold issue, which will mark the first time such color has been employed on a coin struck by the United States Mint. Each denomination will be available in both Proof and Uncirculated versions.

The contest is open to all citizens and permanent residents of the United States who are at least 18 years of age. Each applicant must submit three to five design samples via digital or physical portfolio between August 1 and October 17. A group of experts composed of three CCAC members and three CFA members will select 20 artists to move forward with obverse and reverse submissions for the commemorative. These finalists will be given $1,000 each for labor and materials as they prepare their final submissions, which can take the form of a physical model, a rendering, or both.

The winner of the competition will receive $10,000 and his or her initials will be included on the coins.

Relevant dates are listed below:

August 1, 2016: United States Mint Launches Public Design Competition for Breast Cancer Awareness Commemorative Coin

October 17, 2016: Close of public competition (Phase One).

November 14, 2016: Update on artists invited to participate in Phase Two.

January 31, 2017: Deadline for Phase Two by which time artists must submit designs and/or plaster models.

June 2017: Announcement and unveiling of winning design.

As with other commemorative coins issued by the U.S. Mint, surcharges will be added to the price of each coin to support appropriate organizations. In this case, the charges will go to the Breast Cancer Awareness Foundation in the following amounts: $35 per gold coin, $10 per silver dollar, and $5 per half dollar. The coins have been approved for issue during 2018 only.

The bill proposing this program was sponsored by U.S. Representative Carolyn Maloney of New York and was first submitted in 2013. More information on the Breast Cancer Awareness Commemorative Coin Design Competition can be found at the Web Site of the U.S. Mint.

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  1. GoldFishin says

    From the MInt’s website about this competition.

    Thousands of men are also diagnosed with breast cancer every year. Clinical advances, resulting from research, have led to increased survival from breast cancer, with death rates dropping over 34 percent since 1990.

    2. Design Requirements

    Design submissions must—

    be emblematic of the fight against breast cancer

    not include the name or depiction of any living person, even with permission

    not include names, emblems, logos, trademarks or other intellectual property associated with any specific commercial or private organization

    be the artist’s own original artwork

    not include the artist’s name, initials, logo, mark, or other identifier anywhere in or on the design (including plasters)

    not be frivolous or inappropriate.

  2. Barry says

    The gold issue will sell out quick due to the unique color. It’s anybody’s guess as to what will end up on the coin. Btw ,where will they draw the line for being appropriate ? I’m thinking a design showing a bra would be as far as they could go.

  3. says

    “The U.S. Mint has shared details for its upcoming 2018 Breast Cancer Awareness Commemorative Coin design competition, scheduled to kick off on August 1.”

    I certainly wish US Mint Leadership, or anyone with a clue for that matter, would share details or shed some inkling of light on…,

    – the remaining WHL plan

    – the SLQ release schedule

    – state of the ASE offerings

    – if we’ll ever see the WLH THIS YEAR???

    – Pallidium Proof – Yes, No, a Pipe Dream?

    – Are the APE’s sold out or what’s the plan?

    – Do you even rationally expect to support the LESPS going forward?

    – Why communicate the release of the APE BU until 3 weeks after the launch of the Proof APE, when 3 weeks prior ya didn’t know, Okay….

    – Why do you think your customers are idiots and what’s the plan to pull the sheets over their eyes for next year

    – 16EK? – ah, doesn’t matter anyway

    – AND what’s the rationale for having two Liberty medal both in Proof (as stated by Coin World, your trusted agent)?

    – oh, & is there anyone at the helm with a pulse on 901 9th St NW, Washington, DC 20001

    Am I alone here wonder this???

    10 years here and I’ve never experienced a U.S. Mint goat rope like this year.., just looking for a gut check..,

  4. earthling says

    Thank for for this great Coin Program. I am very aware of Breast Cancer and give my sympathies to anyone faced with this disease.

    I have no plans to buy these Coins. What I will do is switch my payroll deductions from whatever charity is receiving my current contribution, to the American Cancer Society. Over a year that would represent far more than the fees off of any Coins that I could buy.

    Disease Commemoratives are not something I really want to collect.

  5. Dave SW FL says

    I’m out on the gold – gimmicks overdone. Hoping the silver dollar is not a concave coin. Will buy the clad half if the legend is ” Save the TATAS”

  6. scott says

    KCSO, you’re not alone. I’m sick of the guessing game and wondering why I waste my time and money when there are plenty of classic collector coins that I would love to have. I also find it somewhat irritating that I sometimes have to take off work just to get my order placed before a new release sells out.

  7. Dustyroads says

    Yeah Rich, this is crazy! Attention Mint Director Rhett Jeppson…..”what are you doing?!?”

  8. cagcgrisp says

    @KCSO, a Good check list of valid points.

    Hopefully someone at the Mint is reading the comments.

    Well done…

  9. Jerry Diekmann says

    KCSO – I’m with you on the Mint – it is terribly mismanaged, which is not all that unusual with government institutions, given their intrinsic political nature.

    P.S. – “Political” does not translate to “good”, “decent”, “prudent”, “perspicacious”, “creative”, or anything similar.

  10. Jerry Diekmann says

    KCSO – so you want a hamburger on the breast cancer awareness coin? Ha ha!

    Seriously, though, this is a cause that is worth donating to. My mother died at the age of 45 from breast cancer metastisis, after first contacting the terrible disease when she was only 37. She left a loving husband and three young sons.

  11. says

    JD – it’s about awareness, and hamburgers are evil! 😉

    Nah, I wholeheartedly support this program and its good to bring Awareness and funding for a Cure through numismatics. The silvers or clads should make great appreciated gifts.

    For those that may attend silent auctions for charity around the holidays, I could see the $5 gold coins being a big hit at one of those since 99% of the population has no clue about yearly mint offerings.

  12. Dave SW FL says

    I would have greater interest in these if they had set up a 3 way competition with tiered prizes for the gold, silver, and clad. Three designs with six different faces would generate more interest than a single design on all 3 coins IMO.

  13. gary says

    I agree Dave SW FL, They should chose a different pair of designs for each of the denominations for the BCA program.

    The way it is now, it serves just to ease the Mint’s task to digitally resize a single design pair to do the entire program.

  14. earthling says

    They need to generate some sort of buzz with a special gift set. Basically a bezel to wear the Gold Coin as a piece of Jewelry. The Pink Gold just needs to be displayed to the world.

  15. Give Me Da Money Plz says

    As earthling said in an earlier post I am not interested in disease commemoratives. I find it to be so annoying that our commemorative coins are basically for sale to any organization that can pay off enough members of Congress.

  16. Jeff says

    Give Me Da Money Plz says I totally agree, I find it odd that now the mint decides to let the public chime in on a design. I think the mint had no idea how to move forward so they threw it upon others, passing the buck. I’m not interested and find nothing appealing to buy this year. the only way I see winners are limited mintage not 100k,500k,750k, someone mentioned not advertising mintages I think this would be a great idea , use limited as the mintage. Cheers

  17. Erik H says

    Jeff, “not advertising mintages” or they could OVER state the mintages then only the die hard collectors would buy. In the end the FREE MARKET would decide what’s hot and what’s not.

  18. Give Me Da Money Plz says

    @ Jeff and Erik H

    Both of your ideas are great solutions and would help get coins into the hands of true collectors.

  19. NC_Stacker says

    I agree with Dave SW FL, they should treat these like the did with the Bicentennial coins. This would make a better collection than just having the same die in different metals.

  20. cagcgrisp says

    1. “someone mentioned not advertising mintages I think this would be a great idea , use limited as the mintage. ”
    2. “they could OVER state the mintages then only the die hard collectors would buy. ”
    3. “Both of your ideas are great solutions and would help get coins into the hands of true collectors.”

    I think both of these ideas are terrible. There is nothing wrong with the current system. Leave it alone. The Mint puts out a stated mintage and a house hold limit. You KNOW what the mintage is and you KNOW what the household limit is. It’s YOUR decision with ALL the given factors (price, market conditions, mintage, HHL, upcoming offerings, competing products, etc…) as whether you should buy or NOT.

    Under suggestion # 1 “someone mentioned not advertising mintages I think this would be a great idea , use limited as the mintage.” I assume that is quasi mint to demand. Mint to demand doesn’t work for a secondary market . IF there is no secondary market then eventually there is no primary market. IF you have no “advertised mintages” then the Mint has usurped You and the Mint decides when and when not to pull an offering. So you have given up your power. Your are giving up you decision making to the government.

    Under suggestion #2 “they could OVER state the mintages then only the die hard collectors would buy. ” Again I assume we are talking about a quasi mint to demand. There is currently ~ 88% of all Mint offerings that fall in the “overstate, over produce, over price” mint to demand offerings. The ‘die hard’ or ‘true’ collector gets EXACTLY what they want with 88% of offerings. I don’t even look at these 88% of offerings.

    I really don’t care about clad or Silvers. I’m only referring to Gold. But for Gold, Don’t go with a mint to demand and Don’t go with a too low household limit. There has Never been an Mint offering that I wanted, that I missed. Never. Website crashes, website traffic problems. Yes. But I’ve never bought ANY mint to demand item unless it was bullion and I only buy bullion when I think the price is correct with spot.

    The Mint is in charge now with the release of the SLQ and the WLH. The MINT knows when these coins will be released. The MINT knows what the mintage will be. The MINT knows what the household limits will be. AND…IF the MINT knows then you can bet OTHERS know as well.

    We need MORE transparency and not LESS transparency coming out of the Mint. WE need more information and not less IF we are to make an informed decision. WE need to know so WE can plan our purchases and allocate money for the rest of the year…

  21. GoldFishin says

    Cagcrisp says, “The MINT knows what the household limits will be. AND…IF the MINT knows then you can bet OTHERS know as well.”

    I agree….IF the Mint becomes any less transparent than they currently are….we might all have to invest in a ghost detector to discover pertinent information about future offerings. I am sure the big boys know everything well in advance…they always do!

  22. Felson says

    I believe I am with GF and CC on the idea that unstated mintages. If the mint goes to that model, there will not be a secondary market for the coins in our lifetimes. With the mint adding significant markups o the coins as it is, when the market is subsequently flooded with available coins, then the value will drop and probably never go back up. Your “collection” will lose value as it sits with very little chance of ever seeing close to the purchase price on the secondary market.

  23. earthling says

    The Mint has become like a very large Crack Distribution network. Move the stuff. Get the money. Don’t worry about the fate of the customers.

    They want to move as much to the addicts as possible. They want to grab ALL the money that’s out there.

  24. Barry says

    I’d like to see most if not all numismatic products have a limited time frame to purchase in addition to mintage limits. This may help collectors by creating scarcity and higher prices in the aftermarket. I remember someone saying that value on the secondary is not the mints concern. It may not be the mints concern but, I’m sure that to a significant percentage of customers secondary market value is important and influences their purchases. It would also help buyers plan their purchase assuming the mint schedules releases well in advance. Now they have somewhat dropped the ball regarding that issue.

  25. RSF says

    You guys are missing the point about how this industry would change if the Mint didn’t advertise the mintage limit on an upcoming product.

    It wouldn’t mean ‘mint to demand’.
    It wouldn’t mean ‘giving up you decision making to the government’.

    On the contrary, publicizing the mintage in advance simply makes the decision easy for all you ‘collectors’ whose main interest is the secondary market. You would merely be forced to weigh the risk more thoughtfully and to consider the possibilities as to when a sellout will occur.

    The Mint used to occasionally stop selling a product unexpectedly. Those were the ones that became aftermarket stars. Imagine if that happened, or even had the potential to happen a few times in the course of a year. Adding some mystery and speculation to each new release would be good for the industry.
    And it would tend to smooth out the launch process for us long-time hobbyists (who’ve never thought of this as an industry) who just enjoy putting a collection together that may contain a few winners in the process.

  26. Erik H says

    I don’t the full numismatic history of US coins but under cagcgrisp’s theory that there would be no secondary (collector) market without pre-determined mintages I think there’s plenty of evidence (200+ years) that shows otherwise. If you’re only looking for short term gains, that’s a different story.

  27. cagcrisp says

    @RSF You said “It wouldn’t mean ‘giving up you decision making to the government’.”

    AND… then You said ” The Mint used to occasionally stop selling a product unexpectedly. Those were the ones that became aftermarket stars”

    What part of “The Mint used to occasionally stop selling a product unexpectedly”DOESN’T mean “giving up your decision making to the government?”

    That is EXACTLY what you are doing when you let the Mint decide when or when not to pull an offering after Launch. You are allowing Mint employees/friends/dealers/AP’s/insiders deciding “the ones that become aftermarket stars”.

    You are taking away a free market and more transparency and installing a controlled market and less transparency.

    Let’s just say the Mint decide to pull the Harpers Ferry 5 oz. P puck after week #1. Week #1 sales were 15.140. So they pull it. What happens? Well it would be the 3rd Lowest P puck all time. Price would increase and Yes…the Mint would have CREATED (not free market) a One Hit Wonder.

    What happens next? Well..Once you see that the Mint has changed the game plan and are willing to pull an offering early (and not let the free market decide) then guess what? You’ve created More One Day Website stampedes and you have done More harm and not Less harm as to “And it would tend to smooth out the launch process”

    YOU are the one missing the point… Under your scenerio the Mint is making mintage decisions AFTER Launch vs. making mintage decisions BEFORE launch. A decision on mintage is ALWAYS going to be made, either the Mint decides before Launch where everyone is on the same playing field OR the Mint decides after Launch where only those in the huddle know…

  28. Jeff says

    CC I think there are many levels one could surmise as to what could happen if the mint went silent. I tend to agree with RSF what happened before the collecting phenomenon, those mintages were not made public some were winners most not. I think it would be no worse than what shenanigan’s the mints pulling these days, could not be any worse. I think that when mintages are set this allows scrupulous activity. I would be for LE mintage.

  29. Leo S. says

    CagCrisp

    I agree with you on your analysis. However, I do think there comes a time when the Mint should pull some real dogs. I collect the FS and am finally done with them. I think it is time for the Mint to cry Uncle and pull the 2014 and 2015 Bow Wows as I am sick of seeing them week after week selling 1 or 2 units

    Let the pain end

  30. RSF says

    In the past, when they would discontinue a product unexpectedly, it was for those that had no announced limit.
    The Mint would obviously still have a mintage limit for the product, just not announce it in advance.

    The Mint has no desire to cause these launch day frenzies and technical problems. Over time, this change in policy would become baked into the decision making process of the big dealers and they would see no reason to manipulate the opening minutes. There would only be a more manageable stampede if the product warranted the excitement due to its quality and anticipation. The extreme example given is just that, extreme.

    There is no huddle of insiders. I’m continually amazed that with the size of the investigative numismatic press that’s grown up, how tight-lipped Mint management can be, and how little we know. If the Mint wasn’t as honorably opaque as they are, leaks would be common and we’d know a lot more. (but we’d also have more cause for suspicion of corruption, with as much money as is involved in this industry now days)

  31. So Krates says

    “investigative numismatic press ”

    Where can I find this mythical creature you speak of?

  32. GoldFishin says

    @SK- they are attending the PCGS annual summer barbecue this weekend in Cali!

    Main goal of the barbecue is to prevent developing orange spots of sauce on one’s shirt. Participates who can not comply entirely will be considered victorious IF a “quick dip” will clean up the wayward special sauce. Sorry, but small fries will not be attending! 🙂

  33. Dave SW FL says

    $40,000.00 for $27,000.00 of bullion????? HA HA HA HA HA. That’s just toooooo funny.
    Doubt they’ll find any suckers on that deal.

  34. Give Me Da Money Plz says

    @ cagcrisp

    I am a collector. Not a flipper or speculator. I do not agree with your prediction that not announcing mintages will somehow remove buying power or hinder the “free market” because of the following reasons:

    1. There was never a “free market” in the first place. The mint is a monopoly. In order to have a free market, you need to have different mints competing with each other selling competing products. You do have private and foreign mints, but if they attempted to market their coins as United States legal tender they would be shut down for illegal counterfeiting.

    2. Collectors decide whether to purchase coins based on whether they like the coin or not, not because of mintage limits. The moment you take mintage limits into consideration, you are now speculating on the rarity (value) of the coin. You are no longer purchasing the coin because you like it, you are buying it because it might become rare (valuable).

    3. Flippers will end up waiting until the product sells out before attempting to make profits off coins just like they did for two hundred years before the internet was created.

    Another solution that was not mentioned, but would have the same result, would be to mint coins based on demand.

  35. Barry says

    @GiveMe= Is it not possible to collect coins and also speculate ? I collect coins that I like and only buy extras if I believe the coin will become rare and / or appreciate significantly in value.

  36. earthling says

    The strange situation going on with the Spouse Coins is that over its 10 year run, people have been beat down with poorly designed and ugly artwork on seriously overpriced baubles. Many stayed in the game just to catch the ” low mintage” issue. Well surprise, yesterdays low mintage issue was soon replaced by today’s low mintage issue.

    After getting burned a few times by buying the First Strike 70 graded BU or PF Coins , many have just given up. So when you are looking at an unloved series of Coins that are not wanted , what happens when the series finally ends? Do people all of a sudden decide the Coins are now highly desirable? Do Coins that could move at $800 , suddenly become hot sellers for $1800 ?

    Well, grab the Popcorn, we’re about to find out. Already the promoters are trying to pump these frumpy mamas into hot sexy Beauty Queens.

  37. earthling says

     Do Coins that could move at $800 , suddenly become hot sellers for $1800 ?

    — replace with —

     Do Coins that ☆ couldn’t ☆ move at $800 , suddenly become hot sellers for $1800 ?

  38. Felson says

    @GiveMe… the US Mint has a monopoly on new US Coins manufactured for sale by the US Mint. There are plenty of coin manufacturers and several other private mints selling bullion and reselling US Mint coins. In other words there are a lot of options on where to spend your money.

    The US Mint has taken the approach you suggest for most of their offerings as Cag said. You can purchase an uncirculated coin set today and there is no limit to how many you may want to purchase. The same can be said for proof sets and nearly every other offering the mint offers. While you can purchase them you’ll also notice these sets are losing annual buyers. In my opinion the reason they are losing buyers is obvious, there is no secondary market for them, and the mint has taken to over pricing these and most can be found for far less than the original sale price on the secondary market.

    The only coins that stand a chance of holding their value today are coins that are uncommon, or based in precious metals. The president coins are an example of worthless, unless you have a reverse proof. Even with that obvious example, a reverse proof with 50,000 coins is almost worthless.

    Most coin collectors appreciate the art involved and seek coins they like for that reason. That doesn’t mean they also will buy coins that will depreciate in value from the minute they purchase them.

    Unannounced mintages might spike a few sales early on, but think about how the mint would have to manage the inventory? Do they quietly mint 50,000 or 500,000 and shelve them. What if demand is there for 50,000 and they have 500,000 on the shelves? Do they sell them for years or destroy the excess? When do they end sales? Annually or do the coins languish on the shelf for years and years?

    Mint to demand has been done and most collectors have said they see no upside to it either for many of the same reasons. There just isn’t a value to be found in collecting coins that you have to undercut the next seller on the block to find a buyer because everyone else already has one.

  39. data dave says

    The only thing consistent about Mint decisions over the past 10 years is that they have been inconsistent. Even for the same product lines, when they become available, how many, how long, etc., the rules and decisions seem to change nearly every year. They individual presidential rolls consistently sold over 50K for both the P and D mint. In 2015 they decided to make only 40K (except Kennedy) and they sold out very quickly.

    I honestly think there is a high turnover of people making actual decisions at the mint. Look at the packaging snafus this year.

    Look at the mintages for the first C&C set. I think everyone on this blog new that was a sure winner for flippers, but I think the “old timers” that new the market grabbed them up and then the flippers came in for the second one.

    Two bottom lines – even if the Mint took suggestions from here and “cleaned up” their act, within a few years different people would takeover their jobs and screw things up again. And two, rather than complain about Mint decisions, use your brain to take advantage of those decisions.

  40. data dave says

    @GF – True that! Reading this blog has encouraged me to look beyond and think outside the box.

  41. joe#2 says

    Earthling.. The only FS coin that really looked great is Jackie K. in proof.
    Whether the price goes up or down doesn’t really matter to me.
    I bought it cause i love it. I wanted Reagan, But looks NOTHING like her. I passed on that one. The worst of the bunch was Betty Ford. Horrific coin. Worst coin of the series.

  42. Dave SW FL says

    Never thought ANYTHING could compete with SBA for ugliest coin ever. Mint proves me wrong with FS series.

  43. says

    fyi….Bullion Exchanges on ebay is selling the 2016 Proof Platinum Eagle for $1599.. Their current offering is is in the Black retro holder….last week they were selling it in the white early release holder

    Anyway, I jusst wanted to pass this along to you, as this is the lowest price for a NGC PF70 I have seen

  44. Brad says

    The APMEX price on the complete First Spouse Proof set is a bit much, considering they have a lot of the individual proofs available for much less than the average price of $975.61 per coin in the complete set. The few coins that are worth more than that in proof aren’t worth THAT much more to make their asking price for the set fair. Usually when you buy a complete set of something, you get a bit of a discount over the individual prices, not a jacked up price! I guess they’re just testing the waters to see what someone may be willing to pay. They’re hoping to cash in on the “wow” factor of seeing the complete set offered, undoubtedly something that will seldom ever be seen.

    Most likely the set will be put on “sale” at some point or they may just take it down and continue to sell them as individual coins.

  45. Dustyroads says

    One thing we all need to remember is that the numismatic releases from the Mint are a side gig. It’s not their primary purpose and they are able to treat it as a flexible area.
    We all want more information so we can keep up, make future plans and so one. But what we also need to remember that the Mint cannot make plans just to come back and change them. You will not see this happen.
    The Mint decision makers know what they are doing more than we give them credit for, so I can guaranty you they are trying there best to walk a fine line.
    Are there insiders who tip? What do you think!?

  46. cagcrisp says

    88% of All Mint offerings are over priced and over minted. What I refer to as junk.

    88% of All Mint offerings are in some form quasi mint to demand.

    See a correlation?…

  47. Sith says

    @cagcrisp – About the mintages if they get the mintage wrong they get chewed out, then add Congress adds their input and to ensure that everyone in the general pubic has a shot to purchase their pet coin. As far as the junk, well as a long term contributor to this blog you have the constant discussions on who buys some of the mint offerings, but as long as they do the mint will keep producing it. Selling three quarters for 10 bucks is money in the bank for the mint.

  48. Mr. Kairu says

    Off Topic… Anyone else get a call from Govmint about the 2016 non-HR proof Wedge Tailed Eagles? They were late this year I was afraid they weren’t going to make them but seems they are out now 😀

  49. maddogdday says

    A bit OT…..

    Has anyone received any of the new Denver minted Harper’s Ferry quarters in change? The surfaces of these new coins seem much more highly reflective than in years past, almost proof-like imo. Just wondering if anyone else had noticed something similar.

  50. Dustyroads says

    Are Mint gold numismatic ( upper price scale) items over priced?

    Lets take a look

    Proof gold First Spouse @ $1,300. earns the Mint 24.8% return.
    Proof gold First Spouse @ $1,349. earns the Mint 22.1% return. That’s an average of 23.45% for the price range.

    Proof American Gold Buffalo @ $1,300. earns the Mint 23.9% return.
    Proof American Gold Buffalo @ $1,349. earns the Mint 20.2% return. That’s an average of 22.5% for the price range.

    Proof American Gold Eagle @ $1,300. earns the Mint 21.5% return.
    Proof American Gold Eagle @ $1,349. earns the Mint 18.7% return. That’s an average of 20.12% for the price range.

    Uncirculated American Gold Eagle @ $1,300. earns the Mint 20% return.
    Uncirculated American Gold Eagle @ $1,349. earns the Mint 17% return. That’s an average of 18.5% for the price range.

    The answer is yes if one can purchase these on the secondary market cheaper.

  51. Dave SW FL says

    Where have all the gold dimes gone? Long time passing,
    Where have all the gold dimes gone? Long time ago.
    Where have all the gold dimes gone? Lost in mint space every one!

    When will they ever learn?
    Oh, when will they EVER learn?????????????

  52. cagcrisp says

    @Dustyroads, Assuming What you are trying to do is just Selling Price vs. Raw Gold spot pricing:

    Here is what I come up with…You % margin should be off spot Gold cost and not Gold selling price:

    FS….33.1% , 28.2% and Average 30.7%
    Buffalo…30.0%, 25.3% and Average 27.6%
    1 oz AGE Proof…27.7%, 23.1% and Average 25.4%
    1 oz AGE Unc…25.0%, 20.5% and Average 22.7%

  53. Dustyroads says

    cagcrisp, Am I figuring something wrong?

    Based on a spot of $1.320.
    AGE proof cost of $ 1,660.
    Cost over spot………..$ 340.

    $1,660. x 20.5% = 340.3

    20.5%

  54. cagcrisp says

    @Dustyroads,

    Based on a spot of $1.320.
    AGE proof cost of $ 1,660.
    Cost over spot………..$ 340.

    $340/$1,320 = 25.8% = markup
    $340/$1,660 = 20.5% = gross margin

    I never use gross margin, just markup …

  55. Give Me Da Money Plz says

    @ Barry, Felson, and cagcrisp

    The resellers are in the secondary market. I am talking about the primary market, which is monopolized by the mint. I do understand your concerns that minting coins to demand or not announcing mintages would result in lack of interest in coins. You all make legitimate points and I have come to the conclusion that growing the hobby is more important than attempting to deter flippers and speculators. Thank you Mint News Blog for the cordial exchange of different opinions.

  56. KEITHSTER says

    Ya Maddog noticed they were different from the getgo! Seems to be a deeper engraving and maybe more pressure used to bring out the details ? Remind me more of the San Fran strikes! Did pick up a few extra rolls from the bank but not too many as they seem to have tons? Getting them in change every where around here. Hope the pucks look as good did order one more than normal because of the look of the little one! Had to pick them up today because the sweet lady that would lock them in my car for me got hurt and don’t do the route no more but it was a good run !!! Got most of mine that way but now it’s back to three tries then I have to pick it up myself”> Oh well what ya gona do Have Fun And Good Luck All :>:>:>:>

  57. maddogdday says

    @Keithster- Thanks for your comments. Nice coin with these improvements. Definitely some welcome enhancements to the series if future ATB coins will be similarly struck.

  58. KEITHSTER says

    Yes maddogdday it sure would but don’t know that they will do it. Except on some of the designs with finer details like the ones on the bldg.? Sure makes it easier to see what there. So please do dear mint higher reliefs and hit them harder and make them shine and maybe another Cody down the line? Good Luck To Us All “>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>

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