20th Anniversary American Eagle platinum Proof coin available July 6

The Mint will begin accepting orders for the 2017 20th Anniversary American Eagle 1-ounce platinum Proof coins (17EJ) tomorrow, July 6, at noon Eastern Time.

The Mint made numismatic history on June 6, 1997, under the tenure of Mint Director Philip Diehl, when it introduced its first legal-tender American Eagle platinum Proof coin.

To commemorate the 20th anniversary of production of this coin, the Mint has revived the original designs. The obverse features the “Portrait of Liberty” design. Liberty looks to the future in this modern interpretation of an American icon, the Statue of Liberty. Inscriptions include LIBERTY, 2017, IN GOD WE TRUST, and E PLURIBUS UNUM. The reverse depicts an Eagle soaring above America. Inscriptions include UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, .9995 PLATINUM 1 oz.,” and “$100.” The mintmark, W, is just above the eagle’s left wing.

Each coin is encapsulated and packaged in a custom-designed lacquered presentation case with a 20th Anniversary certificate of authenticity.

Specifications:

Denomination:  $100
Finish:  Proof
Composition:   99.95% Platinum
Diameter:  1.287 inches (32.70 mm)
Weight:  1.0005 troy oz. (31.120 grams)
Edge:  Reeded
Mint and mintmark:  West Point (W)

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  1. Dustyroads says

    Just something to think about…

    Over the past 20 years every time the gold silver ratio has gotten to the 80:1 ratio silver has pulled pack sharply at the point. We are getting pretty close again.

  2. cagcrisp says

    Platinum has broken Below $900

    Don’t turn a $400 premium into a $450 premium…

  3. Tom says

    @cagcrisp. Amen to turning a $400 premium into a $450 premium. Unfortunately, over 5000 people did just that.

  4. Scott says

    If there were any brains left at the U.S. Mint, they would have set the Proof 2016 APE mintage at 6,000. At that level, a sellout would have occurred and there would be sufficient secondary market support.

  5. cagcrisp says

    One Year ago Silver was $20.25

    CURRENTLY…. Silver is $15.25

    A Drop of $5.00/ oz. or 24.69%…

  6. says

    APE –

    Wouldn’t it be something IF the sales report comes out lower than 1st Day Sales?

    A possibility…,

  7. says

    Cag – a year ago, you would have really pissed me off with that..,

    Now.., well, I’m just numb

    Ag makes my head hurt.

  8. says

    JHawk – I enjoyed the thoughts on the Beast, & good luck with the path forward. I’ve taken similar action, and load sheaded some other series I was collecting, though remain very committed to what I plan to collect, albeit more focused.

  9. says

    By the way, orders placed for APE’s will begin to receive shipping notices tonight, or tomorrow night, there may be some bleed off over the weekend once it was realized that there will be no instant SO, and subsequent run up in price for a quick flip.

    And you know the USM most likely cranked out all 10,000 of these puppies

  10. JARHEADnFLORIDA says

    cagcrisp- These drops in metals are making me feel like an idiot. The only bright spot , is passing it down to my son and daughter.

  11. data dave says

    Please everyone sell your silver and invest your money in the stock market where you are sure to have a better return. After all we have the best government money can buy and the wise decisions they are making ensure years of prosperity ahead. Ignore the fact that we are borrowing from our children’s and grandchildren’s future in order to boost our consumption today. That is not really a problem because the economy will grow fast enough to pay back all that borrowing and more. I really think that this time silver will fall enough so that we start to see pre-65 coins start to show up in circulation again.

  12. cagcrisp says

    @JARHEADnFLORIDA, “The only bright spot , is passing it down to my son and daughter.”

    I’m doing that AND passing it along to grandchildren and others. There are all kinds of investments and passing on Gold coins that are 200+ years old or will be in my grandchildren’s lifetime is my choice of an investment.

    I KNOW all my stocks, bonds and real estate will be liquidated by my heirs and I have NO problem with that. I do Think that I’ve done a good job of teaching them to keep some Gold for themselves and their heirs.

    IF Not then that’s all I can do… And…It’s Their choice….

  13. Dustyroads says

    Well what do ya know, the wizard of Oz did give the straw man at the USM a brain after all.

  14. cagcrisp says

    @KCSO
    @Dustyroads

    TLTL

    (Actually as Scott pointed out Above, Mintage was Wrong for this market)…

  15. Tinto says

    Maybe it wasn’t the Oz but the big boy buyers and flippers who want to get their “First Strike” , Early Releases etc .. from their buddies at the TPGs …. and of course their buddies at the Mint obliged … JMO …. plus the Mint probably wants to create a hype about sold out in one week stuff ….

  16. data dave says

    My vote for the price of the Enhanced Uncirculated set is $34.95. At that price I can see it selling out quickly. At $44.95 I see it sitting there for a longer period of time but still selling out. Maybe this is a test issue to replace the regular uncirculated set which has been sucking wind.

  17. Dustyroads says

    cagcrisp says “TLTL”

    Agree on all accounts, I just think the mint deserves a participation trophy for their efforts.

  18. KEITHSTER says

    What ever happened to the reverse proof set ? Did it get flushed and all that was left floating was this Enhanced set!? Must be the old you get what you get and don’t throw a fit thing . I can pick up my unc. eagles at the shop today as they should be done bouncing the around in the truck with the third attempt under their belt. Well Nice Day And Good Luck All “>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>

  19. KCSO says

    Cag –

    You should write a job description titled “Numismatic Product Line Sale Manager” and describe the roles and responsibilities required to grow numismatic sales and list a few scenarios in which were botched by the U.S. Mint, and then offer your resume and an accompanying action plan for solving the issues identified with your R&R description.

    Then couch it as a permanent position or as an option conducted by consultation and perhaps worked remotely (saving the US Gov’t money).

    You really should, if I was retired or looking for a transition plan, I’d do it in a heart beat.

    These guys running that place just don’t get it, and NEVER will get it. I’d love to see their organization structure and if they even have a numismatic product line manager.

    I’m not bashing the mint, it’s just painfully obvious that there’s no one there in any leadership capacity that has a clue or basic comprehension of aligning your high dollar product offering to your customer base preferences and buying habits.

    So, with that, you should create that position.., I’ll be along in 10 years to pick it up and run with it! 😉

  20. cagcrisp says

    @KCSO, LOL…”if I was retired or looking for a transition plan, I’d do it in a heart beat.”

    IF I was retired, AND I was looking for a transition plan, AND wanted to relocate, “I’d do it in a heart beat.”

    Lol…None of those pertain to me…

    I’m a Stock Trader and a Gambler. That’s about all I’m interested in doing…

    When Rhett Jeppson was running the show there was SOME continuity. There were some things I disagreed with when he was in charge:

    1. TOO low HHL’s on the Standing Liberty Quarter
    2. Raising the prices on the 3 Tributes
    3. Re-Release of the last 8,000 Winged Head Liberty
    4. Not pulling the Standing Liberty Quarter
    5. Not pulling the Walking Liberty Half
    6. You only have ONE day to get ALL things right and that’s LAUNCH DAY

    Since Jeppson’s departure it seems the Mint is being run by committee. There is NO continuity.

    1. A ridiculous mintage of 100,000 for the American Liberty Gold
    2. A ridiculous unlimited mintage on the American Liberty Silver medal
    3. A ridiculous mintage of 10,000 on the Platinum Proof
    4. A ridiculous HHL of 1 on a coin that had NO possibility of a SO on Launch Day

    These are just some of the things off the top of my head…

  21. earthling says

    Do they sell those Gold Foil encased Chocolate Coins in a Silver Foil version? I’d like to buy some of those. Those Platinum Eagles are a bit too high for my tastes. Silver Foil Chocolate Coins would be very affordable and a lot more enjoyable to have sitting around taking up valuable space.

    😌

  22. earthling says

    OMG Carl

    A $3.00 Bill ? I bought an old Currencey Book probably around 1976 . Haven’t looked at it in a long time. Maybe I remember $3 Bills…. maybe not. I can tell you this though…….. would you can’t even remember if you’re forgetting things. …. it’s bad. Really bad.

    I do recall one thing. That old current was so cool. But it’s so crazily priced, I’ll never take the plunge. Of course if you can live with circulated, it’s within reach.

  23. Xena says

    jhawk92 – agree with everything you said and with Dusty’s comments. I am collecting the 2 oz, the 1/4 oz and now the 10 oz. The 1 oz isn’t feasible for me, and I decided not to get the proof. It’s a bit too pricey considering there will be 10 of them, and there are too many other series I am collecting.

    Did you get one of those stands for the 10 oz? Mine is sitting on this one: http://www.michaels.com/studio-decor-black-wood-easel/M10288399.html?dwvar_M10288399_color=Black. Put it somewhere where you’ll see it every day as you walk by – I’m not tired of it yet! It’s sitting next to a Star Trek Delta silver coin – not tired of that yet either.

  24. Xena says

    So Krates – I noticed the Canadian 10 oz on Golden Eagle’s website. Maybe if I wasn’t already collecting QB’s I would give those a try. RCM has way too much on the market, I try to be pretty choosy about which of their coins I am going to collect.

    I am going to see about putting together a few Martin Luther-related coins in honor of the 500th Anniversary of the reformation this year.

  25. gatortreke says

    Just returned home from a trip to Quebec City and Montreal. There is a nice little coin/banknote museum in the Bank of Montreal (BMO) building in downtown Montreal. The museum is free and highlights BMO’s development over the years showing period coins (e.g., 1822 Spanish dollar, 1830 US half dollar, etc…) and obsolete and modern canadian currency relating to BMO. It is definitely worth a visit if you are in the area and the price can’t be beat.

  26. jhawk92 says

    @Dustyroads, I agree, this is my first dip in the Royal Mint pool, and I think I will enjoy a solid, but relatively short series which will include some Ag and some Au. Nice to diversify a bit in terms of metal color as well as location, as I have mainly collected from US Mint and the RCM. But since I’ll never get the really big ones, it does make sense to focus down on just a few things.

    @SoKrates, I hadn’t seen that 10oz series, so thanks for the link. As Xena said, I have to limit what I get from the Canadians since they pump out so many items. I basically limit myself to the SML, and generally it is just their annual coin or a few of the special items in the past. I gave thought to going after the privy mark coins, but some of them are too expensive for what they are. Now if I could just get rid of those darn milk spots. This is one I got with my recent order.

    https://sdbullion.com/2017-10-oz-rcm-canadian-silver-magnificent-sugar-maple-leaves-coin

    It is also an impressive coin. A bit smaller diameter than the QB 10oz, but also very pleasing to the eye.

    @KSCO, thanks for the comments. I’ve been intrigued by series like the Privateer, the Norse gods, and a few others. I could never get the draw of the Zombucks, though there was some unique artwork there. I have to balance funds between living, saving for kids’ education, and a few hobbies on the side.

    @Xena, I think I may be in your same boat with respect to the 2oz and 1/4oz. I’ve not decided on the 10oz Ag yet. That is a cool stand and might help view things until we hear of the 2nd release. I kinda hope it is soon with the significant PM price drop.

    I think I will get a pair of the EU mint sets to keep the overall set collection going. I hope it will be at the lower price point that is being tossed around. At times I am tempted to wait for a few years to pick up proof/uncirc sets after prices drop, but with my luck, there will be some sort of limited set that I’d miss at the start and then end up paying a large premium. While I know many of the sets won’t ever gain in price, I have a pretty solid collection that dates pretty far back, so my kids will get a neat collection that has one of every denomination and mint mark still in OGP.

  27. cagcrisp says

    5 oz. Bullion puck sales…

    Same as Last Week…

    Effigy 35,000
    Douglass 20,000
    Ozark National 20,000

    IF these things are NOT SO then there is no one buying. Sales haven’t budged. For those thinking about getting in on the Ellis Island because they THINK it will be Another Low Mintage Wonder, I would NOT. With NO other bullion products being sold and no inventory I see a mintage of 35,000 for Ellis Island.

    You have to have SOME inventory between Ellis Island and the Trump Rally puck…

  28. So Krates says

    @ Xena and Dustyroads – Yeah don’t think I’ll start collecting these (just stumbled into a good deal) but was surprised to see them since I hadn’t heard of them, or the ones you bought, Dusty. Is the Sugar Maple a limited mintage? I do like the retro portrait on the CTG.

  29. So Krates says

    If you don’t want to pay the Mint’s premium on the new proof APE, you can “pre-order” from APMEX for spot plus $556. Then all you have to do (to break even) is to wait for the price of platinum to rise 62%.

  30. data dave says

    @cagcrisp – I would think you would like the 5 oz bullion pucks, they are truly gambling as this point. I can’t believe the mint only made 20K of the last two.

  31. cagcrisp says

    @data dave, I would rather own rolls of the 2017 ASEs that have a mintage of 20,000,000 than 1 of 20,000 5 oz. pucks.

    I would rather have High Mintage and High Demand vs. Low Mintage and Low Demand.

    I don’t sell coins so this is strictly a LONG term play for me.

    IF Silver was to drop in the Mid $14s by the time the Trump Rally puck comes out I KINDA like that design…

  32. Larry says

    @ cagcrisp , not sure I understand what you are saying. If you don’t sell coins, why would you want rolls of ASE’s? What are you ever going to do with them?
    I buy only the P pucks I really like, so I don’t have that many. Some are really stunning, that is the only reason I buy them. The Mount Hood is still my favorite.
    One thing is, you never know what the future will bring. Someday, for some now unknown reason, the 5 OZer’s may become popular.

  33. cagcrisp says

    @Larry, “@ cagcrisp , not sure I understand what you are saying. If you don’t sell coins, why would you want rolls of ASE’s? What are you ever going to do with them?”

    I believe everyone should have between 5-10% of TOTAL assets in Gold. I would PREFER to have closer to 5% than 10%, however, I currently have over 10%.

    I personally have all the Gold that I Think I will ever need. I am strictly buying for children, grandchildren and other people. I have stocks, bonds and real estate to pass on and I’m just trying to accumulate Gold and some Silver to make up the 5-10% of THEIR portfolios.

    I do Like to buy rolls of ASEs annually IF the price meets the criteria that I have determined is appropriate considering a lot of other variables.

    I’m NOT a fan of pucks and especially the P pucks.

    I have stock accounts for all the grandchildren and I trade stocks for them currently…

    “One thing is, you never know what the future will bring. Someday, for some now unknown reason, the 5 OZer’s may become popular.” I will Agree with that 100%…

  34. data dave says

    Thus cagcrisp is using silver as a way to balance his portfolio risk not as a way to maximize his return or collect cool coins. Investing in ASEs is investing in the most heavily traded market in silver coins. Most heavily traded markets normally provide the lowest buy-sell premiums.

    This is a great example of why people who have different purposes spend (invest) their money differently.

  35. John Q. Coinage says

    Should have made some proof plat fractional issues, would have spurred interest –> Here we have a doggy with 3 legs to go with the botched AU $100 & the ridiculously priced, unlimited mintage AG medal. But hey be happy, you can pick up a 2o15, Bess Truman- still about- maybe for another 2 years… the old witch & bytch…..I would buy it just to melt it…… PUcks may be more popular in the future when silver becomes popular again….for now it’s just us junkies it seems……. Ellis will likely see large #s as people try to get a low mintage f/up to Douglass & Arkansas….

  36. Numismatrix says

    I like both the ASEs ( I have a full set excl. 1995-W ), and the 5-Oz ATB
    (full set of the burnished P). I just like the coins and have expended no
    energy in value hypothesis. There is pleasure in spending on a limited
    budget, and buying the coin you like !

  37. cagcrisp says

    More than I Expected on the Silver medal…

    17XA 2017 AM LIBERTY 24K GOLD 1 OZ 23,412 +177
    17XB 2017 AM LIBERTY SILVER MEDAL (P) 38,196 +2,111

  38. cagcrisp says

    The P pucks continue to Stagger In…

    16AN 2016 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – FT MLTR 17,304 +35
    17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – EFF MNDS 15,432 +44
    17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – DOUGLASS 14,828 +188

  39. cagcrisp says

    These Two Should have been pulled Months ago…

    16XA 2016 WALKING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .5OZ 63,847 +62
    16XC 2016 STANDING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .25OZ 89,646 + 68

  40. cagcrisp says

    Commemorative Gold continues to Struggle (Even with a Drop in Pricing)…

    17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1,354 +3
    17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1,794 +14
    17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 21,682 +121
    17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 9,357 + 41
    17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 15,611 +58
    17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 13,825 + 24
    17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 4,911 +21

    17CH 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER PROOF 64,092 +111
    17CJ 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER UNC 16,067 +59

  41. cagcrisp says

    My Guess is reconciliation before Finally pulling the 2016 Silvers…
    The 2016 Silvers cannibalize the 2017 Silvers…

    16EA 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 562,930 (996)

    16EB 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 23,671 +11
    16EC 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 5,716 + 3

    16EG 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER UNC 1 OZ 200,613 (858)

  42. cagcrisp says

    17EA 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 285,423 +2,794

    17EB 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 5,661 +89
    17EC 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 1,279 +12
    17ED 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/4 OZ 2,014 +46
    17EE 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/10 OZ 8,359 +181
    17EF 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 7,178 +47

    17EG 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER UNC 1 OZ 114,530 +3,306

    17EH 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD UNC 1 OZ 2,455 +70

  43. cagcrisp says

    The Gold price Decrease sure helped someone…

    17EL 2017 AM BUFFALO GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 11,534 +695

  44. cagcrisp says

    I Guess you could say the Gold price Decrease helped these…
    Sales Increased 90% from previous week…
    TOTAL sales went from 10 to 19…

    JQ1 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 2,679 +1
    JQ2 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 1,881 –
    JQ4 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – EISENHWR 2,022 +1
    JQ6 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – KENNEDY 6,714 +5
    JQ8 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 1,797 +1

    16SA 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – NIXON 2,546 +2
    16SB 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – NIXON 1,626 –
    16SC 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – FORD 2,362 +2
    16SD 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – FORD 1,617 + 3
    16SE 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 3,417 +4
    16SF 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 1,886 –

  45. cagcrisp says

    Looking back at 07/02/17 Sales numbers:

    17EL 2017 AM BUFFALO GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 10,839 +5

    My Guess is we had a bad number and that’s why we had the following number for 07/09/17:

    17EL 2017 AM BUFFALO GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 11,534 +695

  46. cagcrisp says

    I don’t really keep up with these, however, it is quite noticeable:

    Annual Sets 17RH 2017 SILVER PROOF SET 190,167 (12,285)

  47. Goat says

    cagcrisp
    With platinum price turning up $1.50 (as of this typing) today, will the mints price stay at $1300 ?

  48. cagcrisp says

    @ Goat, “With platinum price turning up $1.50 (as of this typing) today, will the mints price stay at $1300 ?”

    We will not know for sure until Wednesday’s AM fix and possibly Wednesday’s PM fix for the tie breaker…

  49. Dustyroads says

    Goat, I like Liberty coin. They have always had some of the better pricing imo.

    About the link to the Buffalo in OGP on Ebay, I hope no one expects this Buffalo to be a perfect coin. They have there graded 70’s working for them and are most likely unloading the lessors as quickly as they can.

  50. Old Big Bird says

    @ cagcrisp – Annual Sets 17RH 2017 SILVER PROOF SET 190,167 (12,285)

    Can you say the big boys returning what did not come up MS 69 or MS 70 ???

  51. cagcrisp says

    @Old Big Bird , “Can you say the big boys returning what did not come up MS 69 or MS 70 ???”

    That would be my Guess…

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