Edith Wilson First Spouse Gold Coin

Today, December 16, 2013 at 12:00 Noon ET, the United States Mint will begin accepting orders for the 2013 Edith Wilson First Spouse Gold Coins. This will represent the fifth and final release of the series for this year. All five of the coins were released in just over one month’s time.

The 28th Presidency is represented by two different First Spouse Gold Coins since President Woodrow Wilson served in office with both a first and second wife. The coin honoring Ellen Wilson was released just last week.

Edith Wilson Gold Coin

The Edith Wilson First Spouse Gold Coin features an obverse portrait designed by David Westwood and engraved by Michael Gaudioso. The inscriptions include “Edith Wilson”, “In God We Trust”, “Liberty”, “2013”, “28th”, and “1915-1921”.

The reverse design of the coin features an image of Mrs. Wilson supporting her husband who had suffered a massive stroke. His right hand holds a cane, while her hand rests upon his. This was designed and engraved by Joseph Menna. Inscriptions include “United States of America”, “E Pluribus Unum”, “$10”, and “1/2 oz. .9999 Fine Gold”.

The selection of the reverse design took place after two rounds of design candidates had been provided. The US Mint initially provided four different candidates which were all rejected by both the Commission of Fine Arts and Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee. From a second round of design candidates, the CCAC recommended the design that was eventually selected. The CFA went back to the first slate of candidates and selected one of the alternatives with several alterations recommended.

A maximum mintage of 10,000 pieces has been established for the Edith Wilson Gold Coins across proof and uncirculated versions. The ratio of proof to uncirculated coins will be determined based on customer demand.

Initial pricing for the coins is $815.00 for the proof version and $795.00 for the uncirculated version. This is based on an average gold price within the $1,200 to $1,249.99 range. Pricing will be subject to potential weekly adjustment based on changes in the market price of gold.

Bronze Set

Today, the US Mint will also open sales for the 2013 First Spouse Bronze Medal Five Medal Set.

This set includes one example of each of the 1-5/16 inch bronze medals featuring the designs of the 2013 First Spouse Gold Coins. The five medals are packaged in mylar and placed in a folded card with product information inside a custom made envelope.

The sets are priced at $16.95 each, which is a relative bargain. Last year’s medal set carried the same price, but included only four medals.

For earlier years of the series, the US Mint used to offer these bronze medals for individual sale priced at $6.95 each. Since 2012, the medals have only been available within the annual four or five medal sets and within the Presidential $1 Coin & First Spouse Medal Sets, which are priced at $9.95 each.

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  1. ClevelandRocks says

    2013 may be the lowest minted FS coins. None too desirable in aethestics or history, and all released just prior to next calendar year.

  2. says

    Perhaps it’s just me, but I feel like the quality of the artwork on these coins has improved in recent years. I don’t think most of the reverses and obverses are especially attractive subjects, which is the problem.

  3. thePhelps says

    I think the bronze medallions are ok. I just don’t get the logic of creating these in Gold. It baffles me to think they needed made and to restrict the subject as they did as well.

    Speaking of Medallions – I see the mint has a Mandela bronze medallion in both 3″ and 1.5″ for sale.

  4. Sith says

    The logic was the FS coins were a tie-in for the circulating Presidential dollars, and the dollars and 1/4 oz gold coins have the same diameter. In addition I read somewhere that some people that the circulating coins were also gold, and that may have been the intent. Also Gold was not that expensive when it was introduced, and once again any logical flaw should be blamed on congress. They would have done better introducing gold versions of the circulating coins wit the added benefit that we could read about someone using or finding a gold coin in a vending machine.

  5. Eddie says

    No one has answered my question about the FS’s.
    Does the 1st lady have to be dead like the Presidents do to be put on a coin. I know someone else knows more about this than I do. It seems like a whole different basket of apples. For one thing they were not elect to office or any thing like that

  6. Brad says

    VARich,

    It might be bumped down again, you never know. Last week it was 18,919 on the excel spreadsheet.

    I found it interesting to see that the Mt. Rushmore 5 oz. were only 24,044. Why would the Mint cut it off at 24,000, so close to the max? They could have easily sold the extra 1,000 coins on that one. Weird.

  7. larry says

    Wasnt there just one day between last report and sold out status. Or does the report take sales info as of a certain date prior to report.

  8. Brad says

    Eddie,

    Yes, the spouses need to be dead to be on a coin. I’m confident in saying that, because of the way the original schedule appeared back in early 2007. Originally, when it first started the First Spouse series was scheduled to end with Jacqueline Kennedy. In early 2007, “Lady Bird” Johnson was still living. So, she was not on the original schedule and neither was Pat Nixon, despite having died in 1993. After Mrs. Johnson passed away on July 11, 2007, both she and Pat Nixon were then added to the release schedule a short time later. But, even though Gerald Ford was already on the schedule for the Presidential Dollars, Betty Ford was not yet added to the First Spouse schedule because she was still living. She passed away on July 8, 2011, and after a couple of years was also added to the FS release schedule this year.

    So, it does appear that the spouses need to be dead to be included in the series, the same as the presidents.

  9. HIdalgo says

    Does anyone know how long the US Mint’s free shipping offer will last? I placed an order for the 2013 First Spouse Medal set. I was able to order it with free shipping.

  10. thePhelps says

    @Brad…thanks for the informative post on the 1st Spouses.

    @HIdalgo – I am speculating that it might run through Christmas week? I am liking the last few offerings on the schedule with free shipping myself.

  11. says

    Hidalgo,

    If it hasn’t gone away already, my guess is it will last until the 24th or 31st. I’m glad enough that we’ll be able to get free shipping with the TR Coin and Chronicles set.

    On the Rushmores, you folks had me nervous! Luckily mine came to me in basically perfect shape. As for the odd cutoff number, someone suggested in a prior thread the problem is not the coins themselves, but the boxes, and that the supply of boxes was limited enough that they actually “cannibalized” boxes from the slower selling releases – Perry/Basin/McHenry – to meet demand for Rushmore. Not sure how much stock to put in it.

  12. mark says

    Also was wondering. For those who bought from the mints gift shop. If you wanted to return your gold proof. Do you return it to the gift shop or the mint for refund. Or are they the same.

  13. HIdalgo says

    @Mark – the U.S. Mint sales shop in downtown Washington, DC will not refund online purchase made through usmint.com. You must return the purchased products back to PBGS. WIth that being said, my educated guess is that the same process applies to purchases made through Aramak. Buyers need to return the coins to Aramak vs. PBGS.

    @Captain – I am looking forward to buying the Roosevelt Coin and Chronicles set. I collect these sets because of the packaging, history, and of course, the coins/medals. I would tend to think that the set would be a good seller — I can see coin dealers breaking sets apart, sending the medals to third party graders (e.g., PCGS and NGC), and selling MS70 coins with special labels for huge profits.. The question in my mind is — how many collectors will want these MS70 medals?

  14. thePhelps says

    @mark – you are buying the coins from a reseller. To return them you’ll need to go through them as well. The mint isn’t involved in that purchase at all, they sold them to Aramark who is the seller at the booth.

  15. Dustyroads says

    Hidalgo~It looks to me like the TR set is going to be sold as a paper flip card with the medals pressed into the cards, I was hoping for a display case. Also, do you know of any other medals that have ever sold for much above spot?

  16. Dustyroads says

    Samuel~That’s right, no limit, so the Mint will probably watch sell’s and get an idea about how they will move forward with production. My guess is that they will be around throughout 2014.

  17. HIdalgo says

    @ Dustyroads – Yes. I recall the 2011 September 11 National Medal — a .999 pure one ounce silver medal selling for the introductory price of $56.95. Later, the price increased to $66.95. I checked the price of silver on the day the 9/11 medals were first sold — June 20, 2011. On that date, silver was priced at $35.70 per ounce (or thereabout).

    I am uncertain if there were other 1 ounce silver medals issued after the 9/11 ones — I can’t recall any, but then again, I primarily collect coins, not medals.

  18. Dustyroads says

    Hidalgo~ The Mint’s website claims the silver medal is the “first in the Mint’s history to ever produce a 1 oz. .999 medal.

  19. Dustyroads says

    Excuse me, the Mint’s website is referring to a “Theodore Roosevelt” medal, not medals in general!

  20. HIdalgo says

    @Dustyroads – the interesting thing about the 2011 9/11 silver medals from the US Mint is that you can buy them now on eBay at significantly lower prices. I see some Buy it Now medals selling between $35 – $40.

  21. says

    Hidalgo,

    I think it’s possible the ungraded Roosevelt set in OGP could eventually be worth something, but I expect the medals will not hold much value solo if sets are broken up. “Mint to demand” also runs the risk of reducing the value of the Roosevelt set as a whole.

    There is just not as much collector demand for things like medals.

  22. JagFan says

    CO – if you take the Code Talker series and produce them in silver, they would be on FIRE! Maybe one day they might be? Who Knows?

  23. HIdalgo says

    @Captain – I agree. There’s not much interest in medals. However, I am still buying one of these Teddy coin and chronicle sets. I am not concerned about making a fast buck from this set. The sentimental value of this collectible makes it worth more than the secondary market value to me.

  24. thePhelps says

    The 9/11 medals were produced and just say 1 ounce silver. There isn’t any purity on them in the COA or on the coin – so who knows what they are.

    I beg to differ on the coin collectors don’t do medals… there are many who do – based on the subject matter more than any thing else. They are much like a commemorative token than a coin.

    I bought a couple of the 9/11 medals on eBay for $35 shipped. I like the medals – but think they could have done a much better job.

    I think the Rossevelt set will have a short run. I doubt it will be around for a long run anyway.

  25. Ray says

    These Teddy sets will never be worth more than what they are selling them for. Its comical to think otherwise. Even with free shipping I’m passing. If it looks that ncei in person, I’ll be able to find one on ebay for $30-35 for many years. Time to start saving for other losing 2014 us mint products, lol.

  26. CW says

    @Ray, some of us just enjoy things for what they are. I don’t get the ‘but-I-can’t-profit-off-of-it’ attitude at all. If life is devastating over a $20 loss you might want to find another hobby.

  27. stephen m says

    Ray, I wouldn’t be to sure about the future worth of the Teddy sets. To a person that purchases what they like who actually knows, or cares, what the future worth is?

  28. Eddie says

    @Brad
    Thanks for the answer about the FS’s.
    I got one of the Canadian 25’s today and it really looks nice.

  29. Eddie says

    Why is you can get a 1/10 AGE cheaper from APMEX or any of the other places online than you can from the Mint? It is like a $25.00-$30.00 difference.

  30. fmtransmitter says

    I am in that boat too! I like medals AND coins. I like them made by the US Mint. My BRONZE FS in that Whitman holder look stunning! If I could afford the gold I would for sure buy them but the bronze set looks great and will be a keepsake for myself and family to pass down. Just ordered the EOY set in BRONZE!

  31. VARich says

    Will be interesting to see what’s reported for opening sales of the LESPS (LS2) tomorrow on the Sales Report, for some reason it’s not showing on the .xls file though opened last Thurs. Maybe all the orders are hanging out in the “waiting room”

  32. Dustyroads says

    VARich~The Mint did the same thing with the 5* on the xls download. Personally, I’m guessing they’re waiting until they begin pinging cards to begin counting. Could it be their sneaky strategy? BTW, I’ve been hoping, and speculating the Mint will get rid of the unc. ASE soon, maybe it’s really going to happen.

  33. Dustyroads says

    I’m pretty sure Eddie means proof AGE, why would he ask if the Mint doesn’t even list a price for their bullion gold coins?

  34. MarkInFlorida says

    Maybe Eddie is comparing the APMEX bullion to the Mint’s proof or unc., but I notice APMEX does have slabbed proofs random year for $165, which is $10 less than the mint charges for 2013. An OGP random year is the same price as one from the Mint.

  35. VARich says

    Cheers to that Dusty! I’ve been doing my part to help them close out the unc dollar set in a timely fashion.., this free shipping is a dangerous thing, just needs to stay put for another 14 hours. Think we may be well postured on the eagle.

  36. VARich says

    Hey Dusty, found the possible combinations of the JFK set, possibilities range from 2, 3, and 4 coin sets in a mix of either proof, reverse prf, clad, and 90% silver. Mint conducted a market survey to ascertain the preferred mix for a low end and high end set. Sounds promising! Though unfortunately, no UHR RP Ag JFK!

  37. fmtransmitter says

    Need more details how they been working closely with the Perth Mint. Obviously this hobby is projected to grow with all this action. Love it/ hate it. lol

  38. fmtransmitter says

    Imagine statehood quarters in gold, max 1,000. That’s how you sell coins and market. Hey Mint, I am for hire…

  39. fmtransmitter says

    Yes it is good to dream. They want monster boxes with SF straps then slabbed designations. Ewww…

  40. Ray says

    @StephenM, my comment was in reply to someone above thinking these may carry forward worth someday. I find that hilarious. I buy things because I like them, like the $20 commem half. I know that it wont ever be worth more than $20. I feel like 99% of coins the mint sells are not good investments, yet I buy them anyway. I am not a fan of medals, and as far as i know, in the modern era, there isn’t one valued at more than original cost. i’ll fool out over coins, but its a real stretch for medals for me. i know, that lacks logic, but it is what it is.

  41. Jerry Diekmann says

    @fmtransmitter – You may very well be right about the US Mint becoming more and more like the RCM. I sure hope it doesn’t, though. I used to collect Canadian coins, but no more. You would have to be a millionaire to buy all their annual products now – the RCM is the Franklin Mint of the 21st century. Much ado about nothing – my guess is nothing they sell will ever be worth anything more than bullion. And EVERY single coin has the SAME picture of QE2. At least you get some variety with US coins.

  42. Dustyroads says

    Well VA, I’ll be dissapointed if the Mint doesn’t do a classy high end set. The US Mint knows it’s buyers are demanding silver products, so they should get a .90% silver set. If I’m not mistaken, Michael wrote that it was possible that we would likely see all the mint marks. I’m expecting that we will see every variation (please no paint) that we have seen, hopefully matte, and a new variation the Mint hopes will sweep us off our feet.
    fm~The lower mintages of some of the other Mint’s products are really cool, but they also have to put high prices on those products, that’s something the US Mint hasn’t done in my opinion. The US Mint may charge higher prices for some of their products, but their relatively worth the price.

  43. Dustyroads says

    Jerry~I have to agree with you about the queens profile on all the coins. There have been so many times when I would have purchased a coin if it weren’t for the queens image!!!

  44. thePhelps says

    I agree with others have said… I buy what I like and seldom do I worry about the resale value. The TR medal set is exactly the case in point offering – I plan on buying it for myself, not to sell it to someone at a profit.

    @fm… I like “some” of the RCM offerings. The low mintage high priced stuff doesn’t fall into the “like” category. I don’t want or need a glow in the dark coin. I don’t need a diamond imbedded, I find most painted coins useless. It is not worth 2 and 1/2 times market price to buy a bullion coin because it has a polar bear or fox on it. Issuing 1 ounce of silver coins for $115 in a baseball theme and limiting production to 7500 is and was a waste of time – especially when they suck… I can go on and on…

  45. billrod says

    Everyone should be on the lookout for an email from usmint@subscribe.usmint.gov with the subject Urgent Response Requested.. It looks legit but asks you to send information about your order to a bogus address. It may have your name and order number included but it looks real “phishy” to me. I could not find an address to report fraud to the Mint. If anyone has it, please post it.

    Has anyone else received this email?

    Merry Christmas and Happy Collecting.

  46. gary says

    thx for the heads up billrod. Had not seen email you describe. It MUST be a phishy email. Warning, warning to all here!

    Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to ALL!!!

  47. thePhelps says

    @billrod… if I understand your post… there are only 2 places the email could get your order information. From the mint or from you. If it has a valid order # there has to be a logical explanation for the email. I agree – I wouldn’t be jumping into an email and sending the information off to anyone without investigating it closer.

    I haven’t gotten anything like you describe.

  48. Brian says

    billrod – I did get something like that when I added my work address as a delivery address when the billing address for my credit card was my home address.

  49. VA Bob says

    If you use online MS Outlook (formerly Hotmail), you can report an email as a “Pshishing Scam” at the top of the website Inbox. Microsoft then checks into the senders domain address. If it’s fake, they will block it from their servers, so nobody else will get them either. Works well for PayPal and Bank account scams too. Unfortunately the scammers seem to get new domain addresses, so it’s a constant fight. Not sure if Gmail, Yahoo Mail, and the other web based emails have this option, but I’m sure they have something similar.

  50. phillip says

    @ray – the louisa adams bronze mule medal is worth about 100 times what it cost. so there’s that.

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