Enhanced Uncirculated Native American Dollar Images

Over the weekend, I received my 2014 American $1 Coin and Currency Set and wanted to share some images of the actual coin and note included in the set. A reader also contributed images, some of which are included below.

obverse

The obverse of the coins uses a standard uncirculated finish combined with a standard frost finish. The uncirculated finish is slightly reflective, while the standard frost finish is slightly grainy to create the frosted appearance.

reverse-full

The reverse is supposed to use three different finishes consisting of the standard uncirculated finish, standard frost finish, and a light frost finish for certain elements. There is only a subtle difference between the standard frost and light frost finish. The contrast of these two finishes compared to the uncirculated finish is much more apparent.

edge

Here is a close up provided by the reader, which shows the date and “D” mint mark for the Denver Mint.

close-up-2

A second close up shows the surface with the standard frost finish.

close-up

And here is an extreme close up of the finish with the designer’s initials shown.

dollar

Lastly, here is an image of the $1 note included with my set.

Since last Monday, the product has been indicated as “Currently Out of Stock” on the US Mint’s website. Due to the fact that the product cannot be ordered, there has been some chatter back and forth about whether this means that the product is actually sold out. In order to clear this up, I made an inquiry to the Mint regarding the status of the product and specifically asked if they could confirm whether or not the product was sold out.

Here is the response I received:

As of 2:00 p.m., Monday, December 1, the 2014 American $1 Coin & Currency Set is Out of Stock.

When products are in an “Out of Stock” status, this means we do not have inventory of the product and we do not have an anticipated in stock date. Products in this status cannot be ordered online or through our customer contact center, but you can request to be reminded when the product will be returning to sale (through the “Remind Me” function on the product detail page.)

As per the November 23, 2014, Cumulative Numismatic Sales Report, sales of the 2014 American $1 Coin & Currency Set (TA9) are 9,720 units.

Update: Sales report just posted on CoinUpdate.com with cumulative sales reaching 14,073 units.

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Comments

  1. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    cag – per my follow up dissertation a couple days ago, this could play out very positive for your inbound purchase(s). WRT all the moving parts coming together – the mint doesn’t know either, this OoS could run past Christmas, or well into the new year if there’s shipping/weather delays, or what not. The #’s will reveal a lot when available. GF – I wish I had the batphone to bounce something off you right now, though you’re probably already on it and in agreement.

  2. Dustyroads says

    Come on Boz, you can’t really think it could be novelty junk. I will stake my reputation on it holding it’s value just fine. My personal feeling is that an sp70 will be the one best to own, if there are any.

  3. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    I’m with Dusty – this set will hold up just fine, besides, the series is over in 2 years and this is NOW the legacy coin of the series. Burnished is nice, but Enhanced is legacy worthy. Either you have it.., or you don’t! 50k!

    I just wished they Enhanced the 2012 Horse design.., man is that a great design! Love horses

  4. cagcrisp says

    @Keep Calm & Stack On, All in bound purchases arrived Yesterday. Agreed with your previous post Wishing for the Slow Boat. The packaging could be the key to Success or Failure. I’m not expecting the numbers being as strong as you Posted last week. I’m guessing 15k-18k

  5. jeff says

    PCGS has not decided on a first strike label, my suggestion head to NGC for a true ER/FS grade.

  6. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    cag – I hope I’m off by 10k, that would be even better! Would like to know by this evening, if not sooner!

  7. Larry says

    No matter how you look at it, 14 bucks for this coin is a bargain. Should be interesting to see how fast the rest sell out if and when the mint opens the sales again. With all the hype now, it should sell out quickly.

  8. says

    How the heck does a labeling company (that’s what they have become), such as NGC, put a grade on a wire brushed (frosted) coin? Doesn’t the frosting hide flaws that would ordinarily show up in the fields of the coin?

  9. Dustyroads says

    fmt, The medals are nice being that they are basically an ASE planchet, I wouldn’t mind paying so much for them if I collected them. However, for the person who really likes this stuff, it’s the cats meow.

  10. JBK says

    “Hawkster says
    December 1, 2014 at 5:06 pm
    How the heck does a labeling company (that’s what they have become), such as NGC, put a grade on a wire brushed (frosted) coin? Doesn’t the frosting hide flaws that would ordinarily show up in the fields of the coin?”

    I am 99% (100%) sure the “frosted” surface (as well as the other “enhancements”) is on the die. The coin’s grade reflects how well the coin represents the die’s design (bad strike, worn dies, rough handling after being struck all contribute to a lower grades.)

    This is in contrast to the 2000 Millennium dollars (and Goodacre dollars) which were, I believe, “burnished” after striking. Those are the ones I might question in regard to grading as the surface was altered post-strike.

    Also, since this is not a proof coin, the edge lettering is done the same way as circulation quality coins – the coin is rolled between two straight “dies” that impress the lettering. I presume this is why some coins have scratches on one side or the other. (Proof coins are made using a segmented collar that contains the edge lettering, which is impressed during the striking process, which is why they do not show the same “damage” from the edge lettering process).

  11. MikeinPA says

    Jeff, i called and was told the same, was thinking if they are really sold out it doesn’t matter they would all be “first strike”

  12. GoldFishin says

    @MikeinPA- Whichever you choose Mike, If I were submitting, and I very well may…make sure you specify an acceptable minimum grade. I think I would only specify 69 as my minimum grade, especially if it PCGS to avoid the extra FS fee. If you do it that way, you can still sell the set in OGP for coins that don’t make the grade and get most of your grading fee back. You will break even on those, but should make money on your 69’s or maybe a 70 if you are lucky. I still haven’t received mine yet….looking forward to seeing them. Good Luck!

  13. GoldFishin says

    @Cagcrisp- I got a roll of ASE’s and a roll of RCM Bald Eagles last night when Silver was @14.33. Got both as part of Provident’s cyber sale…..was the cheapest thing I could find that wasn’t rounds. Silver had quite the bounce today off those lows, typical stuff in the futures market, break support of $15 overnight to take out protective stops and then nothing but up. Looking like that downside resistance area is starting to prove solid.

  14. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    cag – could you do me a favor please? I have to beat feet to the airport early tomorrow and won’t have access to .xls, should you pull the #’s, could you post sales of GB5, NR4, NR5 & TA9 Thanks, I just checked again and no updates.

  15. Dave SW FL says

    Yea guys, the strength of the rebound really took me by surprise . It will be interesting to see if there is any follow through and whether the shorties can smash the paper price back down . Need to reevaluate my TA as the smack down in off hours Sunday trading really does not show up on daily american trading charts.

  16. GoldFishin says

    Erik H. – thanks for the update….do you know off hand what is the very long term average
    Silver/Gold ratio? I can look it up, but sounds like you would know it.

  17. Erik H says

    I found one dealer who had prices only 15 cents cheaper last night when silver was in the $14 range compared to Friday’s $15.50 – $16 range. But at least they had product. A few years back one dealer seemed to pull product until prices went back up. Like others have said, the paper price never reflects the physical price.

  18. Erik H says

    GoldFishin saysDECEMBER 1, 2014 AT 6:54 PMErik H. – thanks for the update….do you know off hand what is the very long term averageSilver/Gold ratio? I can look it up, but sounds like you would know it.

    I don’t know what the average is but it got down to 40 to 1 before the silver price take down in 2011. It was fixed at on time to 16 to 1 which are what many are hoping for. Geologist say that the earth supplies of silver are only 8 times more than gold (plus when it’s used it’s in such small amounts that it not recoverable). This is why many think silver is under priced and a great buy.

  19. Pool Shark says

    Speaking of sell-outs…

    The Atb Bullion Mintage figures were updated on the Mint’s website today, and they show no changes in any of the 2014 issues except for Everglades which jumped to 32,500 (up 5,500 from last report). Here are the new numbers:

    Great Smoky Mountains: 33,000
    Shenandoah: 23,3000
    Arches: 22,000
    Great Sand Dunes: 17,900
    Everglades: 32,500

    We know that Great Smoky Mountains and Arches have already sold out.
    But neither Shenandoah nor Sand Dunes have changed mintages in the last two updates.

    Is it possible that they minted fewer than 20,000 Great Sand Dunes, and that it will shortly sell out? Could GSD be the lowest mintage of the entire bullion series?

    Just askin’…

  20. GoldFishin says

    @KCSO- if your question is what I think it is about….here is my answer. The lower grade coin is not scarce and won’t be scarce. The higher grade coin seems to be so far and might very well stay that way. I tried my best to secure one and almost had a deal worked out, but it fell through.(long story) Now out of my personal parameters I have moved on. What if’s are part of the hobby and I can live with that. Good luck! Have a nice trip!

  21. cagcrisp says

    @GoldFishin, “If “Ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, wouldn’t it be a Merry Christmas?” Dandy Don Meredith

  22. Larry says

    Finally received the Enhanced Sac. You need to look at it through a magnifier to see the different frosts, but they are there. Not a spectacular coin, but definitely worth the money. Kind of looks like a reverse proof. Also received the 5 OZ Everglades P puck. Now this is a spectacular coin. The large bird really jumps off the coin because the relief is so high. One of the best pucks, IMHO.

  23. GoldFishin says

    @Cagcrisp- used to love to watch and listen to Howard and Dandy Don as a toddler…..lol.
    I had to “turn out the lights” and “turn the page” on that one. Different entertainer…. loved that song though.

  24. GoldFishin says

    @Got my sacs today….keeping them sealed for now. Packaging was so so. Not as securely sealed(loosely taped) as the JFK’s silvers were or as my JFK clads I received today also. (which are glued)

  25. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    GF – hey, I hadn’t gotten to that one yet but thanks for taking that off the table. Nah, I have been going through some Sacabuck scenarios in that little head of mine and had some thoughts, though all depends on how tomorrow’s numbers and the slow boat play out. I have 3 boxes of 5 that I was going to leave sealed, though went through them shortly ago. I tell you what, the guy with the glue gun was trigger happy on mine, I almost took a straight edge in from the side to create an opening. Anyhoo, I got some good coins, probably 3 or 4 out of 20 that are grade candidates. The others look like they were born from a clad hopper in Denver, enhanced, and then found their way for a rodeo ride back on the electric conveyor en masse for shipping. Seems to be a lot of unnecessary tick marks. I’m thinking I may send them in, the $1 bill serials are all over the place and I still haven’t figured out the connection, though for $14 it’s a nice set and I’ll be spending the 1’s. Oh, and thanks for the well wishes, you wouldn’t believe where this business week is taking me, and if I said, you’d just laugh and shake your head – it’s the irony that life throws at you at that you have to chuckle at.

  26. Boz says

    Next year I look for he US mint to start colorizing the Sac. An enhanced green frog on the back side as Lewis &Clark cross the Missouri Zrivet.

  27. Jake says

    Next year, I will look forward to two new mint sets

    Reverse proof set

    Enhanced uncirculated set

    Maybe if we are lucky we will get a curved proof set (just like the baseball commeratives)

    We are going down the road of the Perth mint.

  28. M says

    I am all for the US Mint offering more creative products. Who wouldn’t buy a 5 oz high relief silver eagle?? Perth produces a superb product. The RCM is good as well but IMO some of their designs have become silly and poorly executed. They rely too much on computer sculpting.

  29. Jerry Diekmann says

    Best news I have heard is that both the Sacagawea and the Presidents “golden dollars” are to end in 2016. They can now join the Ike and SBA dollars as modern coins which never should have been minted. Same for the first spouse half ounce gold coins.

  30. Brad says

    I went ahead and opened my box of 22 sets tonight. I managed to score a run of 12 consecutive serial numbers, as well as two more consecutive runs of 3. The other four numbers were near the runs, but with a few gaps between.

    From the serial numbers I’ve seen thus far, there have been two radar notes that should have been shipped out, J05699650A and J05700750A. I wonder if the recipients of those know what they have?

    The range from the lowest (J05696397A) to the highest (J05708657A) serial numbers I’ve seen for sale online is 12,260. My serial numbers were all in the 057084XX range, and I ordered just about an hour or so before the item went to “out of stock.”

  31. Sith says

    @Pool Shark – Great questions, is the GSM confirmed as a sellout? I asked a few days ago, and I got no confirmation as I have not seen that sell out confirmed by any of the bullion dealers.

    We know that GSD should have a mintage no more that 22K , but it could be less, your guess is as good as anyone’s.

  32. jhawk92 says

    I’m one who hopes the Sac C&C set does come back in. I’d only need two, one for each of my kids, as both have said they would like to start collecting. This might be a neat way to get them going.

    @Bob R, KCSO, cagcrisp-Long reply to you all on the previous thread.

  33. jhawk92 says

    @KSCO, one more thing on the DMPLs, I’ve been able to get Mercanti series slabs for all of them so far. I see a couple of the 2010 pucks with the same label. Not sure if I’m going to be able to get all 2010 that way. Trying to decide whether to just “settle” on DMPL/FS or play the search game for Mercanti. Thoughts?

  34. CasualCollector says

    @Brad and @Rudy
    Regarding the Serial Numbers — add 140 to Rudy’s and you get 05708888 — I think that would be a special serial number…

  35. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    Jhawk, sounds like you’ve done well for yourself in this short of time! Did you get assemble your ’12 set individually or a complete set at one purchase? If you can find ’10 Merc Sig, do let me know, I’ve been struggling with that & ’12, if your funds aren’t limited, I’d say for the golden goose! Good luck!

  36. cagcrisp says

    @Keep Calm & Stack On, I am Curious. You wanted me to check on GB5. I follow GB5 but was Not planning on Buying. It’s already passed 2012 mintage so am I missing Something?

  37. Sith says

    @jhawk92 – APMEX has the labels you are looking for and I don’t see a price difference with the signature, so why not get the signature. In fact the “First Strike” labels are more expensive. Now saying all that what is the appeal of Mercanti’s signature?

  38. Keep Calm & Stack On says

    Cag- just anxious to see it a close second, or if it blows right thru to ’13 #’s…, given that its Dec, expected more action by now

  39. J JONAH JAMESON says

    @ Brad

    You beat me to the punch. I didn’t notice the ‘N’ for availability until I read your post. Very ineresting……..

  40. Sith says

    C&C is still listed as “Currently Out of Stock.” I imagine they will run one more batch. I imagine the quantity of that run would be determined by how many people used the “Remind Me” feature…or the mintage limit if their is enough demand for the product.

  41. Dustyroads says

    14073, that’s friggin amazing!! The profit margin for the Mint is almost none existent with the mintage being so low.

  42. Tinto says

    Just noticed that the Mint shifted the C&C to the bottom of the page for the Sacs … they had been keeping it at the top before …

  43. VA Bob says

    Bear in mind the 2013 TR C&C wasn’t shipped until March 2014. When has the Mint ever passed up the opportunity to make money (pun not intended)?

  44. cagcrisp says

    Something Very Fishy about some of the numbers. The PF5 2014 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET has been OUT OF STOCK with No Sales Button, No Remind Me Button, for EXACTLY 4 weeks and this week is Shows Sales of 578. Very Fishy….

  45. cagcrisp says

    All the items that I am interested in, looks like the Free shipping had NO impact. Sales of both the Clad and Silver Kennedy were Dismal. One week pop when they took the Limits off and that is IT. NO follow through What So Ever.

    K13 2014 50TH ANNIVERSARY HALF DOLLAR SILVER 172,634 +6,343
    K14 2014 50TH ANNIVERSARY HALF DOLLAR UNCIRCULATED 170,500 +4,676

  46. mark says

    They will produce more sacs now. Then just have to wait for the packaging to arrive. Then they could sell them in 2015 if need be. But hoping they do not. Already recouped all my money plus $300 profit. And now sitting on 19 free sets.

  47. Brad says

    Given the sales number (which was probably an overshoot of 73 sets), combined with the range of serial numbers I’ve seen, it’s possible the serial numbers of the notes used in these sets ran from J05696001A through J05710000A.

    If the Mint didn’t get a shipment of the full 50,000 notes for these sets, then it’s quite possible the next batch (if there is one), could have a range of serial numbers that is quite a bit different from the first batch.

  48. Dustyroads says

    I called the Mint CS and asked if an “N” designation on the cumulative sales spreadsheet could move back to “Y”, the answer was yes, it can.

  49. Frankie says

    I’d be careful in committing too much money into the ‘American $1 Coin and Currency Set’. The Sacs are a niche market at best. Sellers on fleabay have been undercutting each other for quite some time now with the price dropping to $29.77 delivered right now. That’s roughly a $10 profit per set. Not bad, but not great either.
    Once the US Mint releases the next batch, the secondary market price will drop further and most likely below $20 where it’s no longer profitable.
    Those who think otherwise, sell now – remember the Baseball HoF gold coin scenario. These are selling for close to issue price after all the fees now, but they used to sell in excess of S1,300 in May – and those were plain OGP ones, not graded…
    The early bird catches the worm.

  50. Tinto says

    @fmtransmitter

    Thanks. I agree, nice looking.

    Too bad the Mint in their infinite wisdom is releasing it so close to Christmas, makes it impossible to give it as a Christmas gift, IMO unless they stocked the mint sales booths/counters beforehand.

    I’ll buy it to go with the TR C&C .. hope they have the same dimension, at least the length and width anyways.

  51. IPS_STUFF says

    @Dustyroads

    Have you ever received useful and reliable information from the customer service at the mint?

    I am not saying that the available flag can’t change, but the CS can’t even give accurate information about orders, that should be there area of expertize. Certainly I would not rely upon them to provide good information about the weekly update.

    I miss the ability to see the sold out items on the page that the old website had. Now all we have left is to guess ,attempt to form opinions based upon the weekly numbers and wait for items to be pulled.

  52. VA Bob says

    It just hard to find $1 bills where the ink is dry at the Treasury so they can send them to the Mint.

  53. jeff says

    Frankie did you miss the boat, there’s always ups and down’s it occurs in every market or collectible.

  54. jeff says

    So only 14000 set, that mean not more than 14000 collectors have a set, bet it’s less than that.

  55. A&L Futures says

    @ Jeff,

    You’re absolutely correct in your assessment. I personally have 135 “sealed” sets, or about 1% of the total sold population. Its not much, but it shows how just a few people can wipe out the stock.

  56. jeff says

    Here, here Al it’s no different than the Goodacre issue the mint gave her 5000 now there going for 300-400 apiece.

  57. fmtransmitter says

    VA Bob says
    DECEMBER 2, 2014 AT 1:04 PM

    It just hard to find $1 bills where the ink is dry at the Treasury so they can send them to the Mint.

    HA HA Classic!

  58. Frankie says

    @Jeff

    The point I was going to make is that modern (i.e. post 2000!) numismatic items have no longevity anymore. Bar very few exceptions, any hype that is being generated is short-lived. So if you want to make money on these, go ahead, but do it now since these sets will most likely be available for considerably less in a year from now. That’s, of course, just my opinion…

    And yes, I did not order any as I wasn’t aware of the Sac being special. Kudos to those who got in early! And no, I don’t actually regret not buying any, but may order one or two if they become available again. If not, who cares…
    I got in early with the Baseball HoF coins and got lucky at selling some of them when the prices were still high. I’m still stuck with a lot of the silver ones though.
    And I thought about buying a lot (or should I say load!) of the clad Kennedy set, but decided to cancel my order. I honestly think these will have much greater potential down the road than this Sac set, regardless of where final mintages may end up for both…

  59. fmtransmitter says

    @Tinto: At 20k I may just grab one myself. I was able to add the silver version of the bronze to my Teddy set, not sure I can do that here. Anyone know if there is a silver version of the bronze is this offering? Thanks in advance..

  60. fmtransmitter says

    My decision about the Franklin C & C set will be the eye appeal of the silver medal. Waiting on updated pics of it…If anyone has one, please post a link..

  61. says

    Michael, thanks for posting the pictures. As always, I find the photos you take to be a more accurate representation of what the coin looks like than the mint’s own stock photos. Had such photos been available, there might not have been such confusion over whether the coin was really “enhanced” or not.

    The piece itself looks quite good. Unfortunately, I missed the boat on this one since I dismissed the “enhanced” wording as just being marketing when the product was initially released. My mistake!

  62. A&L Futures says

    @ CaptainOverkill

    Hey…as long as your thanking people for the photos, know that the last three Sacabuck photos were ones I submitted (ha ha ha)

  63. Ikaika says

    The EUNAD definetly is unique among the Sacagawea series. I like it. The finish really stands out among the proof and business strikes. I hope it will spark some interest from collectors. The series was all but dead. Cheers!

  64. Sith says

    Full count:

    Great Smoky Mountains: 33,000
    Shenandoah: 23,600
    Arches: 22,000
    Great Sand Dunes: 19,100
    Everglades: 34,000

  65. Brad says

    Great Sand Dunes most likely had 22,000 bullion coins struck, since that was the number of Arches and the initial number of Everglades. I would imagine all of them, as well as the remaining unknown number of Shenandoah will sell to the AP’s once the Everglades is no longer available to them. That will probably be soon, as there haven’t been more than 35,000 bullion coins struck of any design since 2011.

  66. Dustyroads says

    fmt, So true, one can’t judge a classic coin well enough by looking at pictures of it, you really have to hold it to see the toning and patina, strike and cartwheel, etc.

  67. NC_Stacker says

    @fmtransmitter

    What if the Franklin C & C set at this point has an undocumented enhanced finish on one of the coins in the set? Hummmmmm

  68. Pool Shark says

    Brad,

    We’ll likely know in a couple weeks. But, it’s still possible there were less than 22,000 GSD’s minted.

  69. Pool Shark says

    As an aside, the Mint’s numismatic sales numbers are also out today, and show the Arches P-UNC sales up to 27,957. That is the highest mintage of any of the Atb UNC’s.

    Interestingly, if SITH is right, and there were 22,000 GSD’s minted, that would make Arches the lowest minted Atb Bullion issue since Denali.

    Arches: Highest UNC issue in the entire series; lowest Bullion issue since 2012…

  70. Chuck says

    @ mgm

    I wonder if the low mintage (18,584) of the 2013 Proof Buffalo is starting to affect prices for the 2008 sibling (18,863).

  71. says

    @Pool Shark….good catch on Arches…but, we have to wait and see if the AP’s order more GSD’s, which could come in under 22,000.
    Shanandoah is now 2nd in the unc mintage with 27,754. I think these new highs in the unc are a result of the lowest “P” prices ($139.45) with subscription. Just look at what the removal of the %10 discount has done to Everglades….now the highest bullion mintage, but bringing up the rear in unc…
    I wonder how long with Mint will keep the uncs for sale?

  72. says

    @GF…man, you timed it just right Sunday night on your silver bullion purchases with silver around $14.33, I think you said, or thereabouts. Like a dummy, I said I’ll sleep on it, and after a busy morning by the time I checked prices at noon Monday, silver was $16.50 and gold over $1200. I just laughed at myself because I always have mixed feelings when PM prices drop or rise. Prices go down, I can buy more…prices go up, my current inventory is worth more….etc. etc.

  73. Brad says

    Pool Shark,

    You’re right, it’s possible that the Mint may have backed off slightly on the mintage of the GSD bullion coin, perhaps thinking it may not sell as many. We’ll have the answer very shortly it would seem.

    That was a good observation on the 2014-P’s, too. I forgot that none of them had ever topped the 27,000 mintage of most 2010’s until this year. Even though the max for 2011 was 35,000 as I recall, none of them even approached that number. I don’t remember what the max was for 2012, and I think 2013 was 25,000, but I know they all came in lower again in those years too.

    Everglades WILL very likely be the lowest-mintage P 5 oz. coin this year. I doubt the Mint struck all 30,000 of them, and I also doubt they will revisit it once the initial supply is exhausted. They may have backed off to a level similar to the GSM coin, or hopefully a little less.

  74. GoldFishin says

    @Steve-

    Steve Says- “I always have mixed feelings when PM prices drop or rise. Prices go down, I can buy more…prices go up, my current inventory is worth more….etc. etc.”

    Steve, I feel the same way, I would love for silver to stay below $17 for another six months or so while I try to accumulate more ounces. I don’t have the budget to just buy on demand so I have to pick my spots and try and make good purchases. About my timing, “even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while”. 😉 Was sort of hoping for a knee jerk reaction to the downside after the Swiss vote and it played out that way. Good Luck To You!

  75. Bob R says

    @Steve, I believe you will have plenty of chances in the future to pick up silver a lower prices if you so wish.

  76. NC_Stacker says

    Going back to the TA9 set.

    I bet the Mint has minted the 50.000 coins. What they didn’t have was the 50,000 of the packaging and/or all the fed notes on hand to complete the sets. Since the coins already have the 2014 date on them, they will wait till all the items to arrive.

    When they do go back on sale will be in January or February of next year. And then it will be a sellout.

  77. Bob R says

    @NC_S, I agree with you 100% about Sac . The Denver mint may have produced all 50k coins in one day, that would be highly likely, just waiting on the Chinese packaging.

  78. jeff says

    It’s 50/50 I take the side, there’s no way they would strike the entire mintage. There’s no history of the mint striking entire mintages at least not recently. Cost prohibited this isn’t punch and clean this is a three step process both back and front takes to many hours. That’s a total of six strikes per coin and then then lettering I just don’t think so. I as well think they over sold so someone should be getting an email soon telling them produce is no longer available if anyone receives an email like this please share with this blog.

  79. Bob R says

    @Jeff, thanks for the information, I just thought they were punching coins out on the presses like standard Sac’s, just different blanks. I must agree too.

  80. jhawk92 says

    @Sith/Hawkster-I am a coin collector, not a label collector, though still fairly new in the overall scheme of things. I find it disheartening to see all these different labels. When I first saw the latest baseball autographed ASE’s , I just shook my head. I’m not chasing the labels, I’ll buy what interests me. With the exception of the bullion 5oz coins, all my moderns are still in OGP. I went graded for these to get the DMPL to match up with my P pucks. If/when I work my way into classic coins, then yes, a slabbed coin will help narrow down any picks. But yes, I agree with the video (thanks for that fm!), I’d want to buy as nice a coin as I can, regardless of the grade.

    @KCSO-Yes I have been pleased with my progress so far. I started with the 2013 and 2011 sets from Modern Coins Direct. They had complete PCGS MS69 DMPL with the Mercanti signature series. Normally, I’m not one to get on the FS bandwagon, because we know it’s not really how they ship from the Mint. But these sets have the FS label, so I just went with it. I’ve been able to pick up the first 4 of the 2014 slabs from them as well. Then they had an offer for the 2012 set, with Mercanti, but only one of the 5 was a FS…the others were with the “Beautiful Park Series” labels.

    I would rather keep the series going with the same labels, but in talking with the rep, he didn’t think there would be much hope to find a FS/Mercanti label for those 2012s. I will certainly keep my eye out though. As for the ’10s, I saw 4 of the FS/Merc labels at APMEX a few months ago, and on sale. I’m kind of kicking myself that I didn’t get those at that time, as I would have saved some over the current prices. But I had just gone in on the ’11 and ’13 sets and didn’t really have the ability to go after the ’10s. I had figured they would stay in stock longer than they did, but oh well. I may just have to pick those up piecemeal. I will certainly keep an eye out for you and likewise in your searches.

    Back to Sith…Yes, I may just grab those off APMEX when the funds replenish. I can see where a Mercanti signature on a ASE would be cool, and I don’t know that he had anything to do with the 5oz ATB coins. I guess I see as trying to keep a consistent look on the coins for the future. I suppose at some point Mercanti might no longer sign, so I would have a difference in the set that way. For now, I’d like to at least keep going with what I have. Call it the engineer coming out in me.

  81. jeff says

    I beleive that all C & C sets have shipped, so is anyone’s mint account showing a hold, or currently out of stock, or back ordered status, that would be telling in its self. I don’t think once the stock was depleted they would just keep in process, or shipped status. If no one has received there order yet please chime in.

  82. Tinto says

    Just received my Sac C&C order of 2 sets … one has a deep scratch going right across Sac’s forehead from the lower right eye towards the upper left forehead ….. the other had some light scratches in the field both sides …. posters’ comments about the quality of the Denver branch is certainly true for these two coins …

    As for the serial numbers 05706504A and 05706506A ….. ……

  83. VA Bob says

    Jeff – Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself. More than likely the Mint struck the coins all ready. They are probably waiting on the packaging, or the people coming off the holiday to assemble them. If the coins are struck they can sell them next year, it’s been done many times before. I know you want all the sets you bought to be part of some low mintage lottery winnings, hope they are for you, but I’d be very surprised if the Mint leaves easy money on the table with less than 1/3 minted.

  84. Sith says

    @jhawk92 – I at least was not accusing you of chasing labels, but if the Mercanti slabs cost more I would not see the point, a DMPL is a DMPL. But as they cost the same then why not, in my experience the special holders command more money. I for example really like the flag holders for the State Quarters, but can’t justify paying 20% to 30% more for ascetics.

  85. thePhelps says

    Count me in on the side the mint made all 50k of the Sac’s. While it might take more time to produce them, these aren’t PM and as such – the cost to retool the shop to make them a 2nd round might cost more than the time involved to produce and store destroy the coins.

  86. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    We’ve all just been Scrooged. Possible scenario. The Enhanced $1 are definitely not sold out. How can they be? Do you think the Mint will put them back on sale after they planned to release it in a subtle manner during the busiest season of the year of Christmas when most of the populace will miss it? Heck, no the Mint most likely “bought” all their own back and will now make money money money selling on the secondary market of eBay! Whooopie, merryxmas!

  87. cagcrisp says

    Quote from Louis’s Article on the Above Link:

    “When I spoke to the Mint’s Michael White in the Office of Public Affairs last week about the set he said he had been receiving a large number of inquiries about it and whether it was really sold out. He said he expected more product to be available at some point and that he did not think it was sold out, especially since at that point the only data available on sales showed just under 10,000 units ordered.”

    “Even now that it is virtually certain more of them will be available at some point, many people remain very bullish about the sets and their potential for appreciation at least in the short-term and perhaps in the long-term as well.”

  88. stephen m says

    Wasn’t the “use to be way” for the mint to sell until sold out then wait on coin production and or packaging to ship their product to mint customers? I missed the American $1 coin and currency set offering and hope the 10,000 sold units are going to be all the mint makes and ships. It’s time for a big juicy bone from the mint. Congratulations to all that got in and I hope that’s all there is going to be.

  89. Ends in Error says

    Idealy the Mint would love to see these hit $150 on the secondary market. Everyone would be so happy.

    THEN the Mint would play Santa and offer the remaining mintage at issue price and they would sell out to one big buyer who would successfully pump them up to $250.00 each.

    THEN the Mint could release however more in a new packaging option which would make THEM so happy.

    Just my nightmare guess. Hope it doesn’t come true. 🙁

  90. stephen m says

    I definitely hope the remainder doesn’t go to one or any of the big boys should the mint sell the remainder of the 50k. I am puzzled as to why the mint isn’t selling the other 40k. Have they sold all they are going to sell? I doubt if even the mint has that answer at this time.

  91. Brad says

    Wow, and still no household order limit. It looks like the Mint wants to make sure all 50,000 of these sell!

  92. cagcrisp says

    IF you hit the Back order button it says ” The expected in-stock date is Mon Dec 08 2014.”

    SO there for all the Conspiracy people….

  93. Larry says

    Just bought another two sets, will make nice XMAS gifts if I get them in time. Hard not to buy a whole bunch, but I have never been in this for the money. This coin is growing on me. The more I look at it, the more I like it. The packaging really sets it off. I think the mint did a good job. Not sure why they didn’t put a household limit on these now, so get them while you can!

  94. Larry says

    If anything, gotta love the mint’s new website. You know in the past it would have been very difficult to get in to place an order for this coin now. But I got right in with zero wait. Sure makes buying from the mint much more enjoyable than it was.

  95. Porkypig says

    Thanks A & L – You are much more efficient than the Mints “notify me” button! Placed my order…

  96. Dave SW FL says

    Signed up for remind me with the mint

    NO NOTIFICATION

    A& L ,
    I suggest billing the mint for notification services rendered!

  97. Mr. Kairu says

    I did not receive any reminder… yet thanks to checking here, I was able to order two sets. One to keep and the other to sell/gift away for Xmas. Also threw in another JFK uncirculated set for the heck of it too. I doubt prices for this TA9 set will stay where they are on Ebay now (approx. $30 per set), but would be nice to sell one to cover the cost of both! Maybe eventually if they sell out quickly.

  98. A&L Futures says

    @ ALL

    I received a “heads-up,” from a fellow collector/flipper. I notified ya’ll as soon as I received the text. YES – I did hit the remind me button, but that has yet to come through.

    p.s. YES – I placed another large order (>100)

  99. CasualCollector says

    Perhaps the “Remind Me” Button only sends out the reminder when the product is actually “IN STOCK”?

  100. fmtransmitter says

    cagcrisp says
    DECEMBER 3, 2014 AT 11:32 AM

    How many people put in a “Remind Me” and did Not get a Remind Me?

    “raises hand”

  101. senior says

    No e notification lucky got 2 small orders in , out of stock came up immediately after my second order just before 9: west coast

  102. fmtransmitter says

    I still want to know WHY your coin HAS to be in the folder for NGC to give it that Pedigree of EU or SP??

  103. fmtransmitter says

    Save $4.95 if you spend $100 or more at the US Mint website Holiday gift giving Holiday Shipping program..

  104. Erik H says

    If you order at least 8 you’ll get free shipping. I was going to order 5 originally but added the extra to get the free shipping. Hopefully I can sell the 3 at today’s secondary prices or better to help offset the 5 I wanted.

  105. Gary says

    I see the 2014 Burnished Silver Eagle is Out of Stock…has it been Out of Stock for a while or is that new?

  106. fmtransmitter says

    NC_Stacker says
    DECEMBER 2, 2014 AT 9:15 PM

    Going back to the TA9 set.

    I bet the Mint has minted the 50.000 coins. What they didn’t have was the 50,000 of the packaging and/or all the fed notes on hand to complete the sets. Since the coins already have the 2014 date on them, they will wait till all the items to arrive.

    When they do go back on sale will be in January or February of next year. And then it will be a sellout.
    I agree, I stated earlier in this thread. It is always about the packaging, they can pump out the coins in one run in a day…

  107. fmtransmitter says

    This packaging cost way more than the product itself, that you can take to the Thanksgiving dinner table!

  108. fmtransmitter says

    Gary says
    DECEMBER 3, 2014 AT 12:49 PM

    I see the 2014 Burnished Silver Eagle is Out of Stock…has it been Out of Stock for a while or is that new?

    Not new..

  109. coachmike says

    Remember, they will oversell (take order for and not have enough) the 50,000 and turn away some of the orders like they did with baseball HOF. This is to insure not having any left over due to order problems with those who placed orders.

    So VERY SOON (today?) they will stop taking orders and some who thought they were getting them won’t.

    I made an order today at 11:54 and another a half-hour later at 12:26– 222 orders during that time.

  110. Wes says

    Feel jipped by mint with the spend 100 or more get free shipping coming out after I already received silver Kennedy’s. See now had I waited would have gotten the Free S&H. Small amount but still feel jipped. Not spending over 100 just to get free shipping now. I also just happened to check website and saw that Sacs are on backorder. No reminder that is good that means HSN guy may not know until he reads this blog.

  111. fmtransmitter says

    HSN guy may not know until he reads this blog. He knows, he has his truck backed up to the back door. Let us know what he prices them at please. Dealers LOVE clad offerings!

  112. cagcrisp says

    When the Hard Copy of the Mints Production & Sales numbers came out yesterday, there was ONE item that did NOT agree with the excel spreadsheet. The PF5 2014 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET decreased on the Hard Copy by 90 from the excel spreadsheet…

    Hard Copy shows 8,900
    Excel spreadsheet shows 8,990

    Still amazes me that there were Any sales increase since they have not been available for 4 weeks. Most have been from an audit…

  113. Sith says

    The Coin & Currency Set (TA9) is still available, IE it has not been wait listed. I did not get a notification from the Mint that it was in stock and only knew it was back do to this blog. Thank you A&L!

  114. Ikaika says

    @ Louis

    I hope you had a chance to purchase the Coin and Currency set today. Thanks to A&L for sharing the info with us 🙂

  115. Louis says

    Thanks a lot, A&L and thanks, Ikaika- I jumped on the bandwagon as soon as I saw the post this morning.
    Last night I foolishly bought one on the Bay for $32 but then I ordered a bunch from the Mint and my average
    cost with shipping is still good at just a buck or so over original price (because the e-Bay one upped my average).

    So if we want just the coin graded we remove the capsule from the packaging? I will check later.

  116. NC_Stacker says

    I feel there will be one more window of opportunity with these SAC’s. After that they will be gone.

    My guess is they sold about another 10,000 sets.

  117. jhawk92 says

    Count me in the batch of folks who didn’t get a notification. I just want two.

    @Sith-no worries there on labels. That’s a good point on DMPL…it is what it is. I will mull things over and figure out a plan. I think if I can find Merc pucks I will concentrate on those.

  118. jhawk92 says

    @A&L- nice of you to give folks a heads up on these. 🙂 I hope they open up the orders another time or I may look into your auction for a couple.

  119. says

    I tried to order the SAC’s last night and site would not allow me to order! I tried at 9 am this morning PT and I got my order in for FOUR sets and they are on BACK ORDER of course! I also had asked for them to notify me when more were available and there was no e-mail to me and I have been a long time customer! This offering slipped by me since I did not know the coin was enhanced! Every year I buy a few rolls! I also don’t like the way the site is set up, I think it is harder to find offerings! JMHO For those that got the coins already, hope you are enjoying them and thank you for alerting me that we could be ordering back orders at “special times”of the day! I am also interested in the Collectors Set coming out on the 16th. My youngest grandson age six wants one for him and one to take to school! His class just got interested in “golden dollars”! Happy for the chance to help with the History lessons! LOL!

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