Favorite Everhart medal and coin designs, part 5: The Dalai Lama medal and National Baseball Hall of Fame commemorative coins

(Wikipedia photo courtesy of the Dalai Lama)

Conclusion to a five-part series. Click here to read part 1, part 2, part 3, and part 4.

Updated 8/8/17 at noon to correct the statement that Don Everhart designed the obverse and reverse of the Dalai Lama Congressional Gold Medal. The designer and sculptor of the reverse was Joseph Menna.

Don Everhart, the United States Mint’s senior sculptor-engraver, retired from his position in Philadelphia last week. This week I’m exploring some of my favorite Everhart medal and coin designs and engravings.On Tuesday I showed the 2006 State quarter for Nevada; on Wednesday, the 2009 Women Airforce Service Pilots medal; on Thursday, the Statue of Liberty reverse of the Presidential dollar series; on Friday, two coins in the First Spouse gold program. Today: two more examples of Everhart’s art, a sampling of more than 100 coins and medals he worked on during his tenure at the Mint.

The 2006 Dalai Lama Congressional Gold Medal

In chapter 2 (“Behind the Scenes at the U.S. Mint”) of American Silver Eagles: A Guide to the U.S. Bullion Coin Program, retired U.S. Mint chief engraver John Mercanti describes a few examples of what he considers good coin and medal designs. One of the medals he showcases is the Congressional Gold Medal commemorating the Dalai Lama of Tibet. The obverse of the medal were designed by Everhart (the reverse was designed and sculpted by Joseph Menna). Mercanti writes:

The obverse is a beautiful portrait designed and rendered by Don Everhart. Don was my second in command and could model a portrait faster than anyone I ever knew. He is also one of the premier medallic artists in the industry. This is a wonderfully balanced piece. The simplicity of the reverse perfectly reflects the simple life of the Dalai Lama.

The 2006 Congressional Gold Medal for the Dalai Lama. (Hover to zoom.)

The 2014 National Baseball Hall of Fame Commemorative Coins

In my 2016 book American Gold and Silver, I described a unique group of three commemorative coins:

Although the United States has issued many gold commemorative coins from 1903 to date, including dozens in the modern era since 1984, the novelty of one in particular warrants its inclusion in this chapter. In 2014 the U.S. Mint released a suite of three commemorative coins—a half dollar, silver dollar, and $5 gold piece—celebrating the 75th anniversary of the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York. These coins are unique in that they were the first-ever curved coins produced by the Mint. Their obverses are concave, to recreate the cupped curvature of a baseball glove, and their reverses are convex, like the surface of a ball.

“These coins commemorate important aspects of American history and culture,” said U.S. Mint Deputy Director Richard A. Peterson. “This is a great way to connect with America’s pastime.” The nation agreed, with the coins making headlines from coast to coast and collectors buying more than 50,000 in total. In comparison, the Mint sold 25,000 of its 2011 U.S. Army commemorative $5 gold pieces.

On the opening day of sales, March 27, 2014, the Whitman Baltimore Coin & Collectibles Expo and the U.S. Mint Sales Center at Mint headquarters in Washington, DC, were the only two places where collectors could hand over payment and immediately receive the coins. Baseball Hall of Famer and legendary Baltimore Orioles defensive third-baseman Brooks Robinson was on hand at the Whitman Expo to celebrate the coins’ launch.

2014 National Baseball Hall of Fame commemorative gold $5 coin. (Hover to zoom.)

Other world mints had created curved coins before, but for the United States Mint these coins were an innovation. Don Everhart sculpted the concave baseball-glove side of the coins based on a design idea by Cassie McFarland. He designed and sculpted the convex baseball side. These coins captured the imagination of the American public and made national headlines in a way that few other modern coins have.

The coins and medals we’ve explored this week are just a sampling of Don Everhart’s work for the United States Mint. Over the course of almost 14 years he designed and/or engraved more than 100 works of art for the American people. Everyone at Whitman Publishing wishes Don a long and happy retirement—or semi-retirement, at least, as he continues sculpting and designing in the private sector while spending more free time with his family. And we extend our grateful thanks for a productive career that gave the United States many excellent coins and medals to collect and enjoy.

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  1. Donnie says

    Sorry to immediately go off topic but the HSN coin guy is hawking the EU sets on his currently airing show for a mere $349.95. He falsely claimed that the Mint had a 4 minute sellout when, in actuality, the sets are still available on the Mint’s website.

  2. jhawk92 says

    Fun series of articles, thanks Dennis and MNB for putting these up. Don Everhart is quite the artist.

    I caught up on the previous few articles, and went over to the Mint website…there are still 100+ EU sets available. I’m glad I got my 2 the first day. They haven’t arrived yet, but I’m not sure I want any more unless it would be a purchase “just in case” one of the two inbound are damaged in some way.

  3. Einbahnstrasse says

    My one EU set arrived today. Nice coins, though on the designs with skinnier lettering (like the cent obverse and nickel reverse) the “enhancement” is barely visible. No condition issues to report.

    I also ordered a couple extra Boys Town silver dollars, since I like the design (and, okay, since they might be the Lowest Mintage Ever, for at least one year). One of those arrived with a big ol’ white spot on the coin, so it’ll have to be returned for a replacement. Sigh….

  4. Mintman says

    I can just imagine how many deliveries of EU sets have been refused at the doorsteps of the flippers
    The USM needs to be more transparent about the availability of products
    I don’t believe for one minute that the reason why they have availability now is because of one large return
    And because of the lack of communication–they will be bogged down processing returns

  5. Larry says

    You have what appeared to be a sell out, then a couples days later the EU set is back up and days later you can still get all you want. I can’t remember that ever happening before. An explanation from the mint is necessary.

  6. Daveswfl says

    No one in government really cares about this. There is ZERO accountability required or expected when it comes to distribution of product.
    The US Mint is leaderless.
    We miss you dearly, Mr. Moy.

  7. johnaz says

    set on ebay still going stong 40.00 to 50.00 a set. at mint 29.95. May- be people do not like the mint.

  8. Old Big Bird says

    Has anyone looked closely at the LESP pictures on the web-site.
    The one showing the coins overlaying each other shows a S dime and half dollar
    and neatly covers up the where a mint mark would be on the Eagle.
    The picture inside the packaging does not seem to show an S mint mark.
    If t does not come with an S eagle then the ones in the congratulation set
    would be it for the year. But it is not a clear picture.

  9. cagcrisp says

    @Old Big Bird, The Mint has stated that the 2017S ASE will be included in the LESPS…

  10. Gold man says

    If you only want 1 set, the mint price is around $35 (including mint shipping charge) so $40 not to have to open a mint account might be worth it to some. I guess the enterprising entrepreneurs are buying at $30, and selling at $40 and pocketing the $3-4 profit after eBay fees & shipping. There was a time in my life when I would be the one hustling to make less than that. I don’t know why everyone has such a problem with people showing initiative and taking some risk. That said, I always prefer to buy from the small guy if the price is close.

  11. Larry says

    I don’t mind HSN selling the EU set for $349.95. Actually, for a graded MS70 set, it seems a bargain compared to the PCGS and NGC sets on EBAY. For us mortals to get a 10 coin set grade 70, it would cost a pretty penny.
    What bugs me is the Mr. Mezak claims to be a numismatist, but keeps getting his facts wrong.
    He kept saying the mint only made made one other EU Sacawagea, and no other S mint ones. We know the mint made three of them, 2014, 15, and 16, and the 2016 was an S mint.
    He also said the mint put an EU dime in the March of Dimes set, but we all know it was a reverse proof.
    And of course he said the set sold out in four minutes.

  12. Barry says

    It doesn’t surprise me much that some overpay on Ebay. I often see buyers pay more in a auction than the BIN price. It appears they don’t even check.

  13. So Krates says


    Took Buzz’s advice and dumped my two Falklands with Motto coins for $100. Although I saw later that one sold on Tuesday for $90, there is a seller moving 69s at $54. Better too early than too late. 39% ROI . And besides…

    Ah, I…I…I…I, I don’t like my coins with ah…ah…ah, schmutz on them.

    Hats off to Louis for the hot tip.

  14. So Krates says

    Tuesday, after the release of the EU set, theofie shared that he had flipped 98 sets asked if that makes him smart, or a bad guy. I was surprised only one response came in.

    Any thinking person can’t help but eventually realize that this thing we do is a zero-sum game. theofie’s profits were made at the expense of another person. If you win, someone necessarily loses. It’s pretty much that way across the board. Increasingly now in every endeavor, the profit motive is revered. Even questionable places like medical care, education, and war fighting. Some call it stepping on the backs of others while others call it healthy competition, risk taking, etc. None the less, we have chosen as a society to limit this runaway impulse on occasion. When the item being flipped is deemed a necessity during an emergency the law frowns upon gougers. We all hope they are penalized for profiting immensely from water or gasoline in short supply.

    The EU set is far from indispensable, lol, but it’s a rather tenuous line as to what is. This Capitalism has brought us very far, very fast , but it can lead us right down a blind alley if we are not careful.

  15. So Krates says

    If you’re having coin problems I feel bad for you son
    I got ninety nine sets but a proof ain’t one

  16. Larry says

    @ So Krates Says “Any thinking person can’t help but eventually realize that this thing we do is a zero-sum game. theofie’s profits were made at the expense of another person.”

    I don’t know. If someone pays their hard earned money for the EU set, they are getting something that must seem a fair value to them. Someone gets money, someone gets a EU set. Perhaps a win – win trade. Someone does not necessarily lose if both parties are happy.

  17. Buzz Killington says

    @SK —

    I’m sure you’ve got a couple dollars to fight the case.

    But I have to disagree that if you make a few dollars here that someone necessarily loses. Any asset can be a hot potato, and you don’t want to be the one holding it when it loses value.

    But if you make something on me, and I make something when I sell it, and eventually someone keeps it and it happy with it. we are all winners.

    I know people say the stock market (unlike commodities) is a zero sum game, but it doesn’t quite seem right to me, even though I can’t develop a mathematical model to lock it down.

    One very real critique of capitalism is that it encourages selling the public good short. The oil companies make money, and the resulting air pollution hurts everyone. Illegal fishers pull every last bluefin tuna out of the ocean to sell them to the Japanese. Capitalism absolutely needs regulation, or it will ruin us.

  18. Comms says

    Have anyone ordered online and then try return it to local mint stores (DC, Denver….)? Does local mint store accept the return? Thank you

  19. Daveswfl says

    Capitalism needs regulation, or it will ruin us.
    Could the same be said about socialism?
    And what of cronyism?
    Oh, and religion?
    Maybe even government needs regulation.

    The more that’s regulated, the less freedoms we have.
    20 years ago I’d have said you’re crazy if you told me the government could require me to buy something.

    Sorry, but I’ve spent too much time in airports lately. But the rail trip was a total joy😊

  20. Just Another Dave In Pa says

    Believe it or not, there are studies that show quite plainly that there are many people who get more satisfaction from a product when they pay more for the product. People attach price to quality and status issues.

    I’m not sure if it’s a zero-sum game but I do know that one has to become very comfortable with exploiting others for material gain. One of the great failures of Capitalism is that it is inherently amoral which promotes greed and makes people like Donald Trump wealthy and influential.

    I go to Jersey a lot. Picked some great peaches and nectarines in Freehold today. Sometimes, I take the backroads through Bernardsville to Far Hills and what I call Trumplandia and through the golf course where Trump wants to be buried. It’s a beautiful area of old unpaved country lanes and large estates.

    I’ve read that the lobby at Trump Tower on Columbus Circle exhibits a William Blake Proverb of Hell which says
    ‘The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.’

    Another says ’ ‘You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough’.

    Blake also wrote, “Where any view of Money exists Art cannot be carried on…” which I guess should call into question the artistry on coins.

    I see the Dalai Lama on a medal in this blogpost and I would ask him how he felt about appearing on a coin or a medal? On the back of the gold medal it says

    “Peace is not the absence of violence. Peace is the manifestation of human compassion.”

    That’s some medal.

  21. So Krates says

    Great responses.

    I would just say that being “happy” with your purchase doesn’t mean you weren’t exploited. There are thousands of happy idiots who own telemarketed colorized or platinum coated crap who will never realize they are “losers” until they or their heirs walk into the LCS with their trinkets. Their ignorance doesn’t change anything, it’s actually necessary to dupe them. Of course this example is more extreme than the EU set antics, but it is essentially the same at heart.

  22. Old Big Bird says

    @cagcrisp – I know you know more than I about coins, but why did the mint seem to go out of it’s way to hide the ASE in there pictures. The dime and half shows the S, but they hid the half mint mark behind them.

  23. Tom says

    Headed home after spending about a week in Denver. The ANA Fair was a BLAST! Lot to do, see and enjoy. This year was memorable, with the release, unavailability, and final release of the Enhanced Set. Humorous at best. Seeing dealers hurriedly buy a product then try to get a fancy blue sky label attached to it to justify a ridiculous markup and then see.the rug pulled out from under their greedy feet was as one dealer put it ” Poetic Justice.”
    I haven’t bought any yet, maybe later for stocking stuffers. They are very nice to look at, but I think the term Enhanced also applies to the price for clad.

  24. cagcrisp says

    @Old Big Bird, On the LESPS the same picture layout is used every year. The Mint shows the obverse on the ASE and since the mint mark on the ASE is on the reverse, the only way to show the mint mark would be to show the reverse. The mint mark on the Roosevelt and Kennedy both show because on both those coins the mint mark is on the obverse…

  25. Buzz Killington says

    @daveswfl —

    >Capitalism needs regulation, or it will ruin us.


    >Could the same be said about socialism?

    Socialism = the overregulation of capitalism

    >And what of cronyism?

    Cronyism = seizing public assets for private gain of a few. (e.g., Russian oligarchs)

    >Oh, and religion?

    Will be mostly gone in 2-3 more generations

    >Maybe even government needs regulation.

    The Bill of Rights is the regulation of government, not to mention other laws enacted by the people’s Congress.

    Neil Degrasse Tyson is absolutely correct that our survival as a democracy is threatened by an uniformed populace. However, neither political party seems to openly embrace this as the fundamental priority that it is.
    The more that’s regulated, the less freedoms we have.
    20 years ago I’d have said you’re crazy if you told me the government could require me to buy something.

  26. Buzz Killington says

    @daveswfl —

    I forgot to say —

    >The more that’s regulated, the less freedoms we have.

    This is a tautology, and not a bad thing, unless you are an anarchist (a view that is cured by education)

    >20 years ago I’d have said you’re crazy if you told me the government could require me to buy something.

    You pay property taxes, you are required to buy auto insurance if you buy a car, flood insurance if you buy a house in certain locations, sales taxes if we buy food.

    I am not in favor of allowing health insurers to take a profit out of money spent on medical bills (the Heritage Foundation idea), but as long as the Hospitals aren’t allowed to turn people away and die in the street, YES, if you want to be a member of society, you have to share in the cost of this social goal.

  27. Daveswfl says

    When the medical community controlled medical decision making, medical care was affordable, available, and of high quality.
    Since government has become involved, the greedometer has approached red line.
    My family grew up poor, and we NEVER lacked quality medical care. There was no medical insurance available to my mother, yet the doctors and hospitals provided what we needed and only charged what she was able to pay.
    Government controls and “social goals” have only served as a means for US, the public, to be ripped off. If you doubt this to be true, you are just not aware of what has happened in the medical field over the past half century.

  28. Just Another Dave In Pa says

    Buzz, I think you meant to write an uninformed populace although the uniformed populace is a big threat, too.

    ‘Pharma bro’ Martin Shkreli is a symptom of unfettered Capitalism at its finest. The need for regulation is very clear.

  29. Daveswfl says

    Apologies for the medical rant. I’m not a fan of medals and the mint has not been very interesting this year (outside of their blunderous decision making.)

  30. Xena says

    Comms – I tried to return an online purchase to the DC store, and they wouldn’t take it. I believe the stores are directly govt and the online orders are contracted. I guess that matters, but it’s just one more area where they are not customer-friendly.

  31. Buzz Killington says

    @daveswfl —

    I’m sorry to have to say this, but your belief that you know everything you need to you about the medical system based on your experiences with your local doctors growing up is part of the problem. It is an immensely complicated subject.

    I definitely wouldn’t hold myself out as an authority, BUT I think the principle is true — if you want to live in a world where people aren’t left in the streets to die, and hospitals MUST provide certain care regardless of the ability to pay (which I believe was a policy ushered in by Ronald Reagan, but I could be wrong), then all members of society have the responsibility to bear part of the cost.

    I would suggest to you that the issue of what the cost is, and whether “the cost” ends up enriching people like the “Pharma Bro” is a subject that has not gotten enough attention from my friends in the GOP, because the system of making it work out correctly (or trying to) is called “regulation”.

  32. says

    Get on the 8 Ball if you want a 2017 APT ( American Platinum Turkey) . There are 8 left before the 1st “sell-out” occurs? Of course we would expect them to be available again…. given the current schnenigans with the 2017 EU Sets. No way can I believe they’ve actually sold anywhere close to 10,000 of those APT’s.

  33. Buzz Killington says

    @earthling —

    There is no way there are going to mint more Pt Eagles at this point. They are selling too slowly.

    Or should I say, it would be crazy if they actually made more. Crazy things can happen.

    As far as the EU sets, no one could reasonably think they sold 225K sets in 6 minutes, and then were just selling the alleged 20K “return” order.

  34. Joe#2 says

    Louis… How r u pal. I’m sure you already know the 1 oz. Northern Sky gold domed coin came out. Looks cool… 🙂

  35. Blair J. Tobler says

    @Xena, Comms: I believe PFSWeb operates the online sales, while Aramark operates the Mint Gift Shops, hence them not allowing returns from online orders.

  36. John Q. Coinage says

    4 APEs & counting…..All the 2o17 EU sets you can eat, it’s a buffet! As I said before clad unc. sets are dogs to begin with now & this set, though having some appeal, is a clad set, I bought a couple after theyt returned to life, today you can still get ’99’ no problem! You can always give your extra sets to 1800KarsforKids……if they’d stop playing the commercial!!

  37. earthling says

    And then there were none……………………………………….😢

    APT Coins are now gone. Sold out ? Currently Unavailable? Will they come back?

    They are Turkey Coins and Turkeys can fly… but not as well as Eagles. Someone might help a few back into the nest.


  38. earthling says

    At this point I’m betting the EU Sets will still be around for Christmas. Will they ever actually sell out? My bet is against that.

  39. NcCoinCollector says

    I can think of some clad coins worth having:
    Cheerios Sacagawea
    Wisconsin quarter with the extra leaf
    Washington dollar with no , “In God We Trust” engraved
    to name a few.
    In general I prefer PM but there are many collectible clad coins.
    I suspect the enhanced uncirculated will have (some) people scrambling to find out if their nickel or dime rates DMPL.

  40. Daveswfl says

    My personal experience was just a statement of how things were in the 1950s.
    Nowadays I work 5 days a week with doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals in Continuing Education for recertification . So I am constantly hearing their side of the story, and , believe me, they are not thrilled. The hospitals are taking over and that only exacerbates the problems.

    On coins, I have just completed my yearly study of Blue Book prices on mint sets, proof sets, bullion and Commemorative coins & sets. The results have been tragic for several years now. Commemorative collectors in general have been decimated (Teddy Roosevelt C&C being a notable exception.). And First Spouse……phhhhhhhhhf (but MAYBE Eleanor Roosevelt )

    Will commems EVER make a comeback? Or is crypto currency the new “collector ” coin?

  41. Buzz Killington says

    @daveswfl —

    I agree that the Hospitals buying up all the physician practices is NOT a good development. Whereas there used to be independent doctors, I have noticed that affiliations with institutions has become the norm. There are a few holdout doctor’s offices, but only a few.

    However, that is totally unrelated to any specific statute, and was underway long before 2008. You can’t characterize this trend in any way as having to do with the government.

    On coins, commems might make a “comeback” but only because they have fallen so far down. Even though I love collecting coins, I am not betting on its future being especially strong, and I think the coin market, for anything but super-rarities where rich people try to preserve wealth, is likely to more or less track the PM market.

    There are several venerable old collecting categories: comics, baseball cards, stamps, and coins. While the best material is any of those categories can still hold value, the market as a whole has fallen off a cliff for everything but coins. I think we will be the next to fall.

  42. NcCoinCollector says

    Commemoratives will not be making a comeback unless current values are celebrated. Specifically, commemoratives tend to celebrate/recognize things like self-sacrifice or integrity. Those are things which have fallen well out of favor in todays America. There is no honor in shooting someone with a tail light out, spending trillions on failed wars or charging a child thousands of dollars above cost for allergy medicine.

    You may laugh but a Kim Kardashian (or a “You Lie” Joe Wilson South Carolina quarter) PM medal/coin would reinvigorate the hobby.

  43. AZ Dan says

    I would prefer that the mint place limits on coins for a period of 1 week to 1 month to have all collectors have a chance at buying the coin(s). Anything else implies the mint is complicit in aiding flippers. I know that others on this site may not like what I have to say because they are able to buy up to 10x items the limit even when the House Hold Limit is 1, 5 or 10 with the express intent of flipping the coins at a profit. In the long run that will turn off coin collectors.

    With limits those collectors can have a chance at getting the coin at issue price and once the period is over let the flippers or others buy even more coins. I suspect the profits would be lower and the flippers would exit the market and in some cases the mint makes fewer coins & some at the mint may not like that idea.

  44. earthling says

    “You may laugh but a Kim Kardashian (or a “You Lie” Joe Wilson South Carolina quarter) PM medal/coin would reinvigorate the hobby.”

    I’d like to see Ronald McDonald on a Quarter. A series of Dimes devoted to Local Law Enforcement – ” drop a Dime, to wipe out crime “.

    Also, we could use some beautiful Commemorative Currency. Stamps are too small and too dead. Coins are too small and dying a slow one. Currency would be an improved bridge between the 2 Worlds.

  45. Erik H says

    Get them while they’re hot.
    Denver ANA Rick Harrison (Pawn Star) NGC Gem Proof Medals. Or pick up Rick Harrison signed ANA NGC1921-D Morgan dollars & 2017 ASE.

    MCM, as a regular contributor here since 2010, I’m willing to offer my signature too.

  46. ClevelandRocks says

    Think I’m the true “grandpa” on this blog.
    Anyhow, you may know I’m a cynic of “fake” coins and coin collecting is certainly on a death spiral since younger folks don’t use or care about coins. My college age son uses a
    credit card to buy a $1.25 candy bar.
    That said, my special 225th UNC set looks pretty awesome and unique and will be a winner for sure.

  47. Numismatrix says

    I received my 2wo 2017 EU sets. The coins are stunning,
    especially the Kennedy Half and the Sacagawea $. They’ll
    remain in OGP but if graded they would be perfect. Anyone
    else care to chime in on the quality of the coins ?!

  48. Louis Golino says

    The guy who delivered my lunch did not have any change, so I took my bill back and paid in William Henry Harrison BU dollars from a fresh roll I could not sell on eBay and get more than face after fees! I still gave him a tip.

    Also, I found out I won my second NLG award last week for the best article in a non-numismatic publication. Yeah!!

    Finally, in other news, I sold a Pobjoy Britannia PF70 and FDI PCGS (only 40 exist) for a little over $400. It was originally $74, but I used my profits from some raw coins to cover that, so it and a 2nd 70 I am keeping for now were free. Of course after fees and taxes it will be less but I am very pleased.

  49. Dustyroads says

    Good job Louis on all that you mentioned.

    Just pre-ordered two correct Britannia Rules the Waves today from Pobjoy to go with the alt issues. I admit it’s fun, and sometimes necessary to sell, but I think I’m going to enjoy holding these.

    Because I had the look up what the NLG is–

    The Numismatic Literary Guild, founded in 1968, is an organization made up of several hundred writers, authors, editors, publishers, photographers, catalogers, curators and other individuals from around the world who are engaged in publicizing and promoting numismatics through writing and related skills.

    The Guild holds a Symposium each year on timely issues affecting its members and stages the annual Bash – which, besides the award presentation, features a lavish buffet and hobby-related skits and song parodies. The NLG also publishes a newsletter.

    Membership information can be found at the NLG website.


  50. earthling says

    This EU incident is making me think of Enron for some reason. Any correlation there?

  51. Donnie says

    @Cleveland Rocks,
    We can all breathe a sigh of relief that you are actually impressed by the EU set and don’t consider them to be circus coins.

  52. says

    OMG Donnie, that’s freak’n hilarious, it’s like that was bottled up for 3 years and then you just let it ‘pop’.

    Yes, we can breath a sigh of relief,

    Gold coins, circus coins, slow boat delayed coins

  53. KEITHSTER says

    Well maybe then the NGL can get to the truth in this Enhanced set stuff? Because this can not be good for any of us! At first I thought it was the Russians but if that was the case we would have heard by now ? So no doubt one of the big boys attempt at bite the flippers in the buck and run? Way to go hashpole just kicked the whole hobby in the nucks. And still smiley faced I’ll bet? $600,000 just to place an order like that so not just a flipper joke smells more like insider info ! All we can hope for is the weak hands hand them back to the strong hands and we all learn from this !!! Come on mint spill the beans and knock it off . Oh we know you will and shame on you!! Good Luck To The Good In All”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>”>

  54. RSF says

    While I’ve only opened and inspected one of my EU sets that came today, I must say I’m disappointed. Other than the polished stream flowing through the Ozark quarter, I see no other enhancements. (except for the polished lettering on each coin)

    I wasn’t expecting the degree of effort they put into the enhanced silver eagle from a few years ago, but these coins are minimally enhanced. Maybe to keep the price so reasonable they could only do so much.
    Actually the more I look at the Sacagawea reverse the nicer it’s getting, but the obverse is un-enhanced.
    Maybe the next sets I open will be different – and there will be many grades and varieties of enhancement on these coins.

  55. Sherril says

    I got a flyer in the mail from the mint today for free shipping on all presidentail coin purchases through August 31st???Does anyone want the code or planning on ordering any?

  56. Larry says

    One non-PM coin definitely worth having is the RP Truman dollar.I also like any of the EU Sacawageas.

  57. Tinto says

    I like the RP Truman and the Sac $1 in its OGP set .. nicely done with the brief info .. got each of the years the Mint issued and was hoping they will issue on this year as well. But looks like, not, according to their schedule to date … (but keeping fingers crossed)

  58. Maddogdday says

    Could anyone please tell me the proper size or manufacturer number of the coin capsule designed to protect the Pobjoy mint Brittania coins? I don’t want to leave them in the plastic flips they were shipped in. I tried the H38 Collectons (too small) and the H40 silver eagle size (too big).

  59. DBR says

    @ John Q. Coinage

    “You can always give your extra sets to 1800KarsforKids……if they’d stop playing the commercial!!”

    I know the commercial of which you speak. It is terrible. It’s so bad I have to watch it each time. Painfully bad in a goofy cheesy way.

    Your comment made me laugh and laugh! Thanks! It made my year!

    I’m glad someone else thinks that commercial is noticeably bad.

  60. So Krates says

    “…find out if their nickel or dime rates DMPL.”

    “Other than the polished stream flowing through the Ozark quarter, I see no other enhancements. (except for the polished lettering on each coin)”

    The sets I have seen have a matte-like, flat finish. I can’t see any being PL as they are not shiny at all. That is the main “enhancement”. In addition the reverse of the quarters and the dollar has a full circle of reflective finish along the edge. As mentioned, the raised lettering is polished on all.

  61. Brad says

    Regarding that free shipping offer for Presidential Dollar items, you can also order non-Presidential Dollar items in the same order and still get free shipping. As long as there is at least one item from the “Presidential Dollar” section of the catalog in your order, the whole thing ships for free.

    So, if you can justify buying one item from the Presidential Dollar section, you can get free shipping on your orders until August 31.

  62. Goat says

    But make sure when you order the Presidential Dollar not to forget the spouse coin too. !
    It reads first spouse farewell.

  63. cagcrisp says

    16AN 2016 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – FT MLTR 17,388 + 34
    17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – EFF MNDS 15,592 + 58
    17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – DOUGLASS 15,338 +127
    17AL 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – OZARK 14,959 + 506

  64. cagcrisp says

    16EA 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 566,828 +1,002
    16EB 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 23,693 + 5
    16EC 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 5,719 –
    16EF 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 17,270 –
    16EG 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER UNC 1 OZ 202,312 + 160

  65. Gold man says

    Less than 7500 enhanced sets left. If you want one at mint price, you probably only have a day or 2 left to get them from the mint.

  66. cagcrisp says

    BT Gold getting a Little Love…

    17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1,386 + 11
    17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1,909 + 50
    17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 22,195 + 186
    17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 9,532 +75
    17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 15,877 + 85
    17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 13,932 +45
    17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 4,983 +22

    17CH 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER PROOF 64,508 + 148
    17CJ 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER UNC 16,182 + 52

  67. cagcrisp says

    Have Mercy on these Two Souls…And end their suffering…

    16XA 2016 WALKING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .5OZ 64,025 + 18
    16XC 2016 STANDING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .25OZ 89,849 +76

  68. KEITHSTER says

    Enhanced #’s 217,514 Was going for the APE. but mike let the Eagle out of the bag before I could get the money on the card! Oh well saved me a load!! Good Luck All :<

  69. cagcrisp says

    As I said before the Mint did NOT mint all 10k Platinums…

    17EA 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 295,115 + 3,341

    17EB 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 5,939 +54
    17EC 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 1,363 +25
    17ED 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/4 OZ 2,156 +27
    17EE 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/10 OZ 8,988 +87
    17EF 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 7,969 + 30

    17EG 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER UNC 1 OZ 118,437 +2,941

    17EH 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD UNC 1 OZ 2,796 +179

    17EJ 2017 AM EAGLE PLATINUM PROOF 1 OZ 9,226 +397

    17EL 2017 AM BUFFALO GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 12,160 + 152

  70. cagcrisp says

    17XA 2017 AM LIBERTY 24K GOLD 1 OZ 24,031 +214
    17XB 2017 AM LIBERTY SILVER MEDAL (P) 41,304 + 1,300

  71. cagcrisp says

    JQ1 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 2,689 +6
    JQ2 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 1,885 +1
    JQ4 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – EISENHWR 2,030 +3
    JQ6 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – KENNEDY 6,733 +13
    JQ8 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 1,808 + 5

    16SA 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – NIXON 2,557 +6
    16SB 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – NIXON 1,642 + 5
    16SC 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – FORD 2,377 + 4
    16SD 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – FORD 1,633 +5
    16SE 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 3,388 + 12
    16SF 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 1,895 + 4

  72. cagcrisp says

    As I’ve said before People Love to Purchase Gold when the prices are Moving UP…

  73. data dave says

    The commemorative numbers are really ugly. A bunch of new lows look very likely. That has to be putting pressure on older issues. I guess something has to give and it looks like this series is it. Probably a doubling of sales in December as the flippers rush in hoping to clean up. Why collect an open ended series that could go on forever?

  74. Daveswfl says

    Well, I started because I saw it as a way to cost average over the years, have history for the grandkids , and maybe get lucky with a few issues.i spent a lot trying to initially get the set up to date. Got at least 2 of everything ( I still do not have the bi-metallic.). I, like so many others, have seen our commem portfolio get decimated in the last 6 years. I haven’t sold anything, but stopped after the NPS.
    I fear that our real money and fiat money will become relics which no one wants. Hey, you can triple your money with crypto currency. Digital is the new gold (silver)!

  75. earthling says

    ” Less than 7500 enhanced sets left. If you want one at mint price, you probably only have a day or 2 left to get them from the mint. ”

    I highly doubt these things will ever disappear. Even if they do, they’ll never hold any sort of market value. Clad Coins are nothing like even Junky Silver Coins . Look at how sorry the Clad Proof Sets are.

  76. A Different Jeff says

    So we know at least one dealer order of 20,000 sets was cancelled, which allowed sales to continue. There may be additional cancelations after the sales numbers were issued. Plus, there may be returns from the Denver show (beyond the EU sets, like APE).
    It will also be interesting to see what the TPG submissions yield For an issue whose first cost is 10 times face, and the grading costs are 10 times first cost, any graded coins are going to be ridiculously (over)priced.
    While San Francisco is well suited to produce high-quality coins, if most come back SP69, the perceived value of grading may be lost, especially for such a high cost service or low value coins.

  77. Erik H says

    Finally got my EU sets. They arrived at my post office yesterday then were sent to a nearby post office then were sent to a post office 45 minutes away and then redelivered at my post office this afternoon. I hate FedEx “dumb” post. There have been a few times that my post office actually returned a FedEx “dumb post” package for no reason.

  78. earthling says

    This is sort of off topic but does anyone have a handle on the 2017-P Lincoln Cent? I’ve not looked for them and don’t recall seeing any. I rarely pay cash for anything so the only Cents I see are laying on the ground.

    I recall hearing about some people wanting rolls of the 2017-P and I have seen offers of them for sale on websites. Here is a Coin that’s typically produced to the tune of 4 – 5 ,000,000,000 per year. OK, so split that up and I’m sure it still puts at least 2,000,000,000 coming out of the Philly Mint.

    If I really want an example of the BU 2017-P Cent I’ll order a Mint Set or 2 from the US Mint . Just to start a big buzz wouldn’t it be cool to put out 225,000 – 2017-P DDO’s. Obviously it would have to be a deliberate DDO – nothing accidental at all.

  79. earthling says

    OMG ! 2017 EU Set vs 2017-P Lincoln Cents.

    The Battle of the Ages.


    So this is how we celebrate….. nothing. With nothing.

  80. Louis Golino says

    MDD- I find 39 is a good size to have around for a lot of world coins and rounds of 1 oz. I bought a pack of Guardhouse 39 mm capsules that seem pretty decent, though sometimes hard to pry open.

  81. cagcrisp says

    An NGC PF 70 2017S Sold today at Auction for $177.50

    That’s a Little Over $100 Less than the Same Label Same TGP sold for in the past…

  82. Dustyroads says

    In Texas we try not to turn over the outhouse!

    Or if that doesn’t teach you, don’t dig up more snakes than you can kill!

  83. gatortreke says

    @Louis: I bought a few Guardhouse double row boxes to hold my bullion silver and some guardhouse capsules for the bullion. Strange thing is the air-tite capsules fit in the Guardhouse boxes better than the Guardhouse capsules. The air-tites slide right in, the Guardhouse capsules are tight and hard to get in and out. Weird!

  84. KEITHSTER says

    Picked up the last of my spouses today glad that’s over! Ok bring on the junk so as to bring on the crowing as if there ain’t enough!! Good Luck Ya’ll”>”<

  85. Erik H says

    Earthling, a few months ago one fast food place I visited had rolls of “P” cents. They let me buy a few rolls but they were all “tails/tails”. I ended up buying an airtite roll and cherry picked 50 good ones. Since then I haven’t received very many but I did get a nice looking Frederick Douglas quarter the other day.

    As much as I don’t like collecting clad coins, I really like the EU set. I think the mint should continue producing the set. The NA dollar looks great as always and the Ozark quarter is nice too.

  86. sharks2th says

    The Palladium bullion release has been confirmed by deputy director Motl for September by Numismatic News in their August 22 issue. It was in the express issue I received this morning. No info on a proof Palladium coin was in the article.

  87. Daveswfl says

    2017P pennies EVERYWHERE here in Ohio. I have so many from change that I am spending all except those which appear perfect – and there are many near perfect. The best come from change dispensers because they are not fingered by the clerks.
    Also snagged 2 rolls at a FL McDs from a cashier who was about to close and was willing to lighten her cash drawer! God Bless her 😘

  88. says

    2017P are easy to find in NY. I was at the teller’s window at my local CHASE bank. She had a counter rack filled with fresh mint rolls. I took 4…..lucked out with obverse and reverse on each roll!
    Away into storage they go. I guess the great-great grandkids will be glad 100 yeas from now!

  89. KEITHSTER says

    Heck the platinum proof may still be here by next year? Seems they found the rest of them or did they have that many at the show to pick from? Well you are in luck if you need one !! Good Luck To Us All:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>:>

  90. Erik H says

    With palladium prices as high as they have been I’m glad there will not be a proof this year. Bullion palladium will be priced a lot closer to melt saving me money!

  91. KEITHSTER says

    Well that was fast there was over 100 APE’s an hour ago now they are gone! Gone for good or to be picked and put back? Somebody got lucky and has some bucks looks like I shot my own foot this time mikey? Good luck To Ya”>:’..\\>>>

  92. says

    At this stage of the Game I have faith in cans of food. The one drawback is portability. It’s harder to carry a case of Beans than a piece of Gold. On the other hand , you don’t get much out of eating Gold.

  93. earthling says

    “Coming soon to your community may be the first ever international Jewish currency, dreamed up by a Russian entrepreneur. 

    BitCoen, an electronic crytopcurrency based off of the idea of BitCoin, is set to launch in September. ”

    So when will we see crytocurrency especially for Numisfans? Anyone inclined to Cash in? Just think, you could soon reap enough profit to own every Coin that tickles your fancy. Your Collection could be much better than even the Pouge Collection.

  94. Tom P. - MA says

    Plenty of 2017 P’s in the Boston area. As is my habit for the past 40 years, I collect a few new ones and that’s it. Of course there is no harm in paying 50 cents for a roll of 2017 P’s. Anything above that east of the Mississippi is a waste of money. They’re going to make about 2 billion.

    2017 D’s on the other hand will take about 2 years to reach here in any quantity.

  95. Tom P. - MA says

    @earthling The prepper movement probably peaked 2012 with the NatGeo series. But as someone somewhere said, pay attention to what they do, not their belief system. They featured everyone from the clueless to the almost insane, but most shows had a bit of good info too. I loved the show with the Cali guy who carried Ike dollars because people “thought” they were worth something.

    The whole cryptocurrency thing is a Ponzi scheme by itself. Unless it’s accepted by the general public (bitcoin), it exists in a world of it’s own. Can anyone say Beanie Babies? Those were rare… and still are rare… but worthless.

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