John Tyler Presidential Dollar Rolls Sold Out


The 2009 John Tyler Presidential Dollar Rolls are now sold out at the US Mint. The rolls first went on sale May 21, 2009, meaning the sell out took place in less than two weeks. The 25-coin rolls had been available with coins from the Philadelphia or Denver Mint and were priced at $35.95 each.

This sell out has wavered from expected to unexpected, as the US Mint has handled similar situations differently. After early sell outs for prior 2009 bags and rolls, it seemed like the Mint was increasing the number of rolls and bags available for subsequent releases. Apparently, this is only the case sometimes.

The first roll offering for the Birthplace Lincoln Cents sold out a modest production run relatively quickly. The US Mint responded by ramping up production for the second Formative Years Two Roll Set. To date, more than 200,000 sets have been sold and they remain on sale at the US Mint.

The first roll offering for the William Henry Harrison Presidential Dollar sold out 30,000 rolls for each mint relatively quickly. It seemed reasonable that the US Mint would treat this situation similarly to the 2009 Lincoln Cent roll offering and increase the number available for the next release. With today’s sell outs, it seems likely that the John Tyler Presidential Dollar Rolls had the same 30,000 rolls per mint allocation as the prior release.

On a related note, the final production figures for the Guam Quarter have now been released by the US Mint. The figures are 42,600,000 for the Denver Mint and 45,000,000 from the Philadelphia Mint. These figures fall below the low numbers for the prior Puerto Rico Quarter.

The 1,000-coin Guam Quarter bags are currently listed as “temporarily unavailable” on the US Mint’s website. The 100-coin bags and two roll set remain available for sale. The low mintage for the Guam Quarter may spur more bags and rolls sales. However, it’s anyone’s guess whether the US Mint has wildly expanded the number of rolls and bags available like they did for the Formative Years Cents, or if they kept the availability the same like they did for the John Tyler Dollars.

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  1. Anonymous says

    I just saw a us mint roll of the Tyler sell for $169 on Ebay. The frenzy has begun! I thing the Guam quarter is a winner due to the final mintage production. They could make 3 times as many bags and rolls and its still a good play. I really think that they will sell out soon on all options due to those figures. I bought another 10 of each option. There is still time to have fun with this one.

  2. Lasloo says

    The $169 is a BuyNow fantasy.
    Don’t look at BuyNows to get an accurate picture of whatever frenzy will occur on Ebay. Look at the current and completed auctions for an item. Whatever the average is for these auctions, is where the BuyNow prices will eventually hover slightly above.

  3. Anonymous says

    I think you will have the same frenzy as the other presidential roll for 2009. We all expected the “Formative” phenom. I know I wish I had bought more now. My guess is….so do you.

  4. Michael says

    From what I saw, the P rolls sold out this morning. The D rolls remained available, but were gone by the afternoon.

  5. Anonymous says

    Okay, this time I’m going all-in on the Polk rolls. I don’t care if I get burnt. Or maybe I should go all-in on the American Samoa rolls. I just know I’m going all-in on something.

  6. Anonymous says

    Is the Mint trying to ramp up interest in these rolls only to sell 100K rolls for the next president?

    Are there production numbers available for the POLK coin yet?

  7. Anonymous says

    You guys and gals are doing it all wrong! Go all in on everything!!! By the time the mint mails it out, you will know if its a grandslam or not. If not, return all of it to the mint in a usps flat rate box, which will cost about $11 and deliverty confirm and some insurance. Worst case, you’re out $20, but that’s nothing if you hit big.

  8. Anonymous says

    Hard to say what the mint will do. They want to be able to meet demand. But it looks like they got "stuck" with too many prez coins. Mint is still selling prez rolls from 2007 & 2008. With production numbers falling and the Mint looking like they are wanting to get "clean" out the vault (ie, last opportunity sale) president rolls may continue to be low until we hit some more popular Presidents (Lincoln, Teddy R, FDR, Kennedy)

  9. Anonymous says

    And don't forget Chester A. Arthur. I can't wait until his coin comes out! He was so cool with his big whiskers.

  10. Anonymous says

    If the mint were smart and really wanted to clear the older merchandise out they would also throw the Presidential product as well as other pre-2009 product that is still available and offer some type of discount. My guess (and this is just a guess) is that they have sold very little product through the current "Last Opprtunity" sale because it just has the same stuff nobody was buying before at the same prices. I'll bet they don't sell out of any of those products by the end of June.

  11. Anonymous says

    I bet people will grab up the National Parks quarters too, starting next year, in the same speculation. Then they will all be disappointed when there is no mark up and the coins do not sell out upon the realization that nobody cares about such a lame program.

    However, the new Lincoln Cents will likely have the same thing happen in 2010 as in 2009. It will be a first-year coin and my bet is that the economy will once again cause a decrease in coin production.

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John Tyler Presidential Dollar Rolls


The US Mint will offer John Tyler Presidential Dollar Rolls starting on May 21, 2009 at 12:00 Noon ET. This will mark the second Presidential Dollar coin release for 2009.

The offering will include 25-coin rolls from either the Philadelphia or Denver Mints. The rolls will be priced at $35.95 each and come in custom US Mint wrappers.

The previous William Henry Harrison Presidential Dollar Rolls sold out after attain sales of 30,000 Philadelphia rolls and 30,000 Denver rolls. The sell out was unexpected since Presidential Dollar Rolls and Bags are still available at the US Mint for all prior Presidential Dollar coins from Thomas Jefferson to Martin Van Buren. All of the rolls still available for sale have all sold more units than the 30,000 allocated for each WHH Roll.

The recent trend has been for unexpected sell outs to result in secondary market prices which quickly ratchet higher. The William Henry Harrison US Mint Rolls are no exception. Some Philadelphia Mint rolls have sold for over $300, and Denver rolls have sold for over $100. Here are the current eBay auctions.

Although the John Tyler Dollar has not yet been released into circulation, the US Mint has already posted the final production figures for the coin. As might be expected, the overall mintage represents another new low for the series. The overall mintage is 87,080,000 coins with production divided at an even 43,540,000 each for the Philadelphia and Denver Mints. The previous low was held by the William Henry Harrison Dollar with an overall mintage of 98,420,000 divided at 43,260,000 at the Philadelphia Mint and 55,160,000 at the Denver Mint.

There will be an official launch ceremony for the John Tyler Presidential Dollar today, May 19 11:00 AM at Sherwood Forest Platation in Charles City County, Virginia. The ceremony takes place two days before the official release of the coins into circulation. Children in attendance will receive a newly minted coin, however there will be no coin exchange after the ceremony.

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  1. Scot in Ky says

    Does anyone know how long the Harrison roll was available? I can’t see when it sold out. Does it stand to reason with the dwindling sales of Presidential dollars that John Tyler rolls will not go over 30,000 each?

  2. Anonymous says

    Didn’t know where to post this, but I read H.R.1209 passed the house on coinlegislation.com It proposes that a commemorative coin be produced in 2011 for the medal of honor $1 silver and $5 gold. So is it a go or does the bill still need to go though more review?Congress- president-etc.

  3. Anonymous says

    Wonder why the mint doesn’t have the Tyler rolls in the Upcoming Products section yet. They’re usually pretty good about having them there at least a week before they go on sale. I see the Proof Set is already there. Is it possible that there will be a delay on the release of this product?

  4. Anonymous says

    Other examples of unexpected sellouts are the DC Quarter roll set and, of course, the Lincoln Birthplace roll set.

    I hope the Tyler rolls don’t sellout before May 26 so I can order them at the same time as the Guam quarter rolls.

  5. Anonymous says

    > Does it stand to reason with
    > the dwindling sales of
    > Presidential dollars that John
    > Tyler rolls will not go over
    > 30,000 each?

    No, you can't make that assumption. The Puerto Rico quarters have lower mintages than the DC quarters, but the Mint, for whatever reason, decided to make more PR rolls than DC rolls.

  6. Michael says

    In response to some of the questions-

    Scot in Ky-

    The WHH Rolls went on sale February 19th. The listings were removed briefly mid March, but then went back on sale. They sold out some time in the first week of April.

    On the 30,000 number, I have to agree with the later response by Anonymous at 10:04. The Mint seems to realize that they greatly underestimated demand for the WHH, DC, and Log Cabin rolls, and may be allocating more for subsequent releases.

    Anonymous at 9:04 AM-

    The bill still needs to pass in the Senate and then get signed by the President. This bill has a very large number of cosponsors, so it seems likely that it will become law.

    Anonymous at 9:29 AM-

    I found that odd, as well. The Mint did issue two press releases about the roll offering which include the March 21 release date (one press release this morning), but we’ll see what happens.

  7. Anonymous says

    To 9:29AM, the Tyler rolls have just been added to the Upcoming Products section.

  8. Anonymous says

    DOES THE MINT HAVE AN OFFICIAL POSTITION ON THE DIRECT SHIP ROLLS ON WHH, TYLER AND THE UPCOMING PRESIDENTIAL COINS?

  9. Cory says

    Regarding the direct ship Rolls, I read somewhere that until the current presidents currently listed sell out, no new presidential rolls will be added to the direct ship program. If this is accurate, it is disappointing to me as I would like to buy a box of each president in the series. As the production numbers decrease, it is getting harder to pick up several rolls at the local banks. Can anyone verify this info?

  10. Anonymous says

    It’s hard to tell when the Presidential Dollars listed in the direct ship program actually ARE sold out or not. They keep slipping into that status for a time, then magically re-appearing later. Pretty much all of the 2007 designs have pulled that trick. Just this morning, I noticed that the Thomas Jefferson direct ship rolls are once again listed as “Sold Out”. Will they stay that way? Only time will tell.

    The Mint raised the limit of 2009 Native American Dollars available through the direct ship program from $500 to $5,000. So, I ordered the additional quantity to look through for more errors. I still have $1,500 left to examine, but I did find one that has an edge lettering spacing error. The spacing of the stars is off-kilter, and some of the lettering is too close together too.

  11. Anonymous says

    Who else thinks that the sculpt of John Tyler looks kind of like Grand Moff Tarkin in “Star Wars”?

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