Medal collectors: A treasure chest of new silver issues is coming from the United States Mint

CCAC members Steve Roach, Dennis Tucker, and Robert Hoge in a June 2016 public meeting at the American Numismatic Association’s Summer Seminar, Colorado Springs. Photo courtesy of Caleb Noel, The Numismatist.

Presidential Medals Start This Year; New Military Program to Begin Soon

Medal collectors—you’re in for some treats! As a longtime collector and student of medallic art, I’m excited about two new programs announced in today’s meeting (Tuesday, January 16, 2018) of the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC). Ann Bailey, the Mint’s program manager for numismatics and bullion, discussed a new series of silver Presidential medals and an upcoming program of military-service medals.

Historical Presidential Medals in .999 Fine Silver

The silver Presidential medals will be similar to recent issues (reissues, really, because they use historical Mint medal designs) in various “Coin and Chronicles” sets, but

  1. the program will include all Presidential medals, and
  2. they’ll be minted in Proof, rather than regular-strike format.

The Mint will strike these medals on standard American Silver Eagle planchets (.999 fine, measuring 40.6 mm, slightly larger than a silver dollar), starting with two medals in 2018 and then issuing four more per year until completion.

They’ll be sold as what used to be called “list” medals (national medals published in the Mint’s annual product list)—on sale in perpetuity, as permanent items in the Mint catalog, with no ordering limits, time windows, or other such restrictions.

Readers of my book American Gold and Silver: U.S. Mint Collector and Investor Coins and Medals, Bicentennial to Date, are familiar with the Mint’s reissue of the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential medal in 2013; the Franklin Roosevelt medal in 2014; and the Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, and Lyndon B. Johnson medals in 2015. These were all minted in silver, the 2013 Teddy Roosevelt piece being the first Presidential medal struck in .999 fineness. (Regular-issue Presidential medals are bronze.) The silver medals were packaged in the Mint’s “Coin and Chronicles” sets along with a Presidential dollar and related collectibles (postage stamps, commemorative booklets, etc.) for each of the honored chief executives. Their designs were derived from the originals by U.S. Mint chief engravers Charles E. Barber, John R. Sinnock, and Gilroy Roberts, and sculptor-engraver Frank Gasparro. These sets all sold out—some in a matter of minutes—with mintages ranging from 17,000 to 50,000.

This upcoming new medal program will give collectors an opportunity to acquire outstanding classic American artwork by some of the Mint’s most talented engravers. The fact that they’ll be minted in pure silver, and in Proof format, practically guarantees the program’s success. Watch for the inevitable best-sellers: the Mount Rushmore presidents (Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and T. Roosevelt) and Franklin D. Roosevelt, with more recent chief executives such as Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Reagan, both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, and others undoubtedly appealing to many fans.

U.S. Military Service Medals in .999 Fine Silver

Another new program currently in the works will include .999 fine silver medals for the U.S. Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, and Coast Guard, with the possibility of including the National Guard (Army and/or Air Force). These medals will focus on celebrating the military branches themselves, as opposed to particular wars, battles, or anniversaries. (Good news for the U.S. Air Force, for example, which won’t celebrate its centennial—and therefore probably won’t see an official legal-tender commemorative coin—until the year 2047.)


As with the planned Presidential medals, these will be minted on standard American Silver Eagle planchets, 40.6 mm in diameter and composed of .999 pure silver. They’ll be issued without dates and without mintmarks. Like the silver Presidential medals, they’ll become part of the Mint’s “list”—permanently featured in its catalog, issued in perpetuity, with no ordering limits. Everyone who wants one will be able to get one, directly from the United States Mint, without paying a markup to an aftermarket distributor.

In addition to the hefty silver format, the Mint will issue these military-service medals in its slightly smaller size (38.1 mm, or 1.5-inch, the diameter of a silver dollar), in bronze, at a significantly lower retail price point. This will make their designs (yet to be determined) even more readily available to collectors, including younger numismatists and those who don’t want to spring for a pure-silver version. Currently the Mint’s small-size bronze medals, such as the recently released bronze version of the Congressional Gold Medal for Filipino Veterans of World War II, retail for a modest $6.95, making them affordable for every collector.

The military-service silver medal program is tentatively scheduled to debut in 2020, with the medals rolling out over the course of two or three years. Formats, finishes, designs, standard templates, and common inscriptions (if any), final schedule, and other details are still in the planning stages. The Mint welcomes feedback and recommendations from the CCAC, which is charged by Congress to advise the Secretary of the Treasury on such matters. If you have any ideas or insight you’d like to share, please feel free to contact me at Tucker_CCAC@earthlink.net.

World War I Silver Medals, and Beyond

If you’re a medal collector, a commemorative coin collector, or a fan in general of modern U.S. Mint products, you know that the Mint’s World War I silver medals go on sale at 12 noon Eastern Time tomorrow (January 17, 2018). Even though the medals are available not individually but only in two-piece sets (each of the five medals, for the Army, Air Service, Marine Corps, Navy, and Coast Guard, is packaged with a commemorative silver dollar), I predict that they’ll sell out within hours—if not minutes. Collectors are “on” to the importance and the historic nature of these medals! The entire issue of coin-and-medal sets is limited to 100,000 units across all five product options. They can only be ordered January 17 through February 20, assuming the limit isn’t reached before the latter date. Production will be capped by the number of orders the Mint receives within that window, and the sets will start shipping in late May 2018.

If you’re a medal collector, I hope you’re as excited and pleased as I am with the United States Mint and its recent innovations in this field of our hobby. The Mint is showing long-term commitment to interesting and popularly themed medal programs, some using classic designs from among our nation’s archives, and others stepping into modern territory with the work of living artists. Kudos to the Mint. We await your work!

Dennis Tucker is the numismatic specialist on the eleven-member Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee, a group established in 2003 by Congress under Public Law 108-15 to advise the Secretary of the Treasury on the themes and designs of all U.S. coins and medals. The CCAC serves as an informed, experienced, and impartial resource to the Secretary of the Treasury and represents the interests of American citizens and collectors.

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Comments

  1. KEITHSTER says

    I’m in hope all goes well? Am letting the dollar grow on me might as well get use to it! I say lighten up on the art it is different and kinda neat reminds me to as if it at the moment of impact and he on the way to join his buddies in the field! So always remember and never forget what they all did for Us & Good Luck All”>”>”>”>”><"<"<"<"<"

  2. NCM Collector says

    Thanks for the good news Dennis. I am still hoping for silver versions of the congressional gold medals but this is a good start.

  3. DBR says

    I’m looking forward to these medals: the military ones and the presidential ones.

    OT: Did you see the platinum design? Wowza. “A New Series Honoring the Declaration of Independence” I hadn’t seen this one yet.

  4. A&L Futures says

    With all the .999 fine/pure silver options coming to the U.S. Mint, it’ll be interesting to see what affect (if any) this will have on sales of the ASE.

  5. captainrich says

    Recently in the Presidential bronze medal series, the US Mint has been producing two medal for presidents serving two terms. I wonder if collectors will be treated with dual silver medals for these particular presidents.

  6. just another dave in pa says

    I might get one to go with the Presidential dollars.

    The mint used to sell a set of Presidential medals from Kennedy to the present but I haven’t seen it in years.

    I’m not a big fan of medals but I think the private mints do a much better job.

    I especially like Roberts Birds (Gilroy Roberts) which were done for the Franklin Mint in the 70’s.

    I’d rather have over 50 birds than all those Presidents.

    This years ATBs look really good.

    2018 looks to be a stellar year for the quarters.

  7. Mike in NY says

    Who is in for the World War I Centennial Medal sets? Any thoughts on how quickly they will sell out? I’m picking up one of each and thinking they may sell out today.

  8. Buzz Killington says

    I predict these medals will not sell out at all. 100,000 silver medals, with 100,000 silver dollars to go with them?

    If so, that would be a tremendous victory for the USM. Less so for the collector, who will be subject to many similar such offerings in the future. Perhaps they will include an exclusive ASE with every 4 coin gold proof set from now on? It is hard to imagine anything (coin-related) that would be more terrible.

  9. asherspapa says

    It’s hard to believe the World War I medals will sell out since each set requires you to buy a more-or-less worthless WWI Silver Dollar. That means $99.95 for about $35 worth of silver–quite a mark-up. It’s really too bad, the Mint didn’t show some respect for collectors and offer the Medals in a set of five…without the repetitive WWI Silver Dollars. At maybe $59 each + $25 or so for packaging, this would total about $320 vs. the $500 it would cost to get each of the Medal + SD sets.
    And what gives today with the “Currently Unavailable” listing for the Medal sets (as opposed to a “Remind Me” notice as is on the WWI Proof and UNC dollars?
    Oh well, I guess we’ll see in about 20 minutes.

  10. KEITHSTER says

    We can only hope for a fast sell out but it should! It’s up to the Big Boys now but they should be in? With the new medals & unlimited these should be the ones to have? And they will have all year to change up the extra dollars to 70’s! Flippers should be in but who knows? Well here we go & Good Luck All”>”>”>”>”><"<"<"<"<"

  11. cagcrisp says

    I’m in the camp that hooking up the $1 coin with the Medal is a Good marketing decision since I see ALL CU …

  12. Buzz Killington says

    @cag —

    I don’t think one medal can go CU first. They are minting 100K of all medals, regardless of design, is how I understood it.

    I assume the “Currently Unavailable” in some kind of new protocol for an un-opened ordering window.

    We will see in a few minutes.

  13. Buzz Killington says

    I think “Back Order” is also a trick — since they have no stock (it is a mint to demand item) it is technically a back order item.

    We will see!

  14. cagcrisp says

    @Buzz Killington, I see the Mint using CU as a Marketing Tool to do what I suggested.

    We will see Today if at Least 1 goes CU…

  15. cagcrisp says

    @Buzz Killington, I don’t think the Mint has used BO in years. They go CU now instead of BO…

  16. Buzz Killington says

    It appears that “Back Order” after 30 seconds in the marketing tool instead.

    I believe there will be some burned fingers on this one. I do not share Dennis Tucker’s optimism.

    I do, however, like that they are now offering silver medals on ASE planchets, since the sale of ASEs are down. At least an idea of how to sell more silver planchets — offer more designs.

  17. Buzz Killington says

    Their definition of Back Order:

    This item is available to be ordered now, but it is not currently in stock. Additional inventory is being made. Please add the item to your cart to see when additional inventory is expected to be available.

  18. Louis says

    It’s 100K for all the medals: “Product Limit: 100,000 across all 5 coin and medal set products
    Household Order Limit: None”

    CW article says the same thing: “These sets are limited to 100,000 units across all five medal product options, and can be ordered only between noon ET on Jan. 17 and 3 p.m. ET Feb. 20 unless the limit is reached prior to that date. Production will be based on the orders received within this window. Fulfillment of these sets will begin in late May 2018.”

    Across all 5 to me means the total for all 5 sets, not for each set, but who knows for sure?

    What is not clear is when do they charge our cc’s and can we cancel between now and May? If we
    can cancel, and they don’t sell out, it will not be pretty.

  19. Mike in NY says

    I noticed that they have hit my credit card although when I spoke with a mint rep a couple of days ago, she indicated I would not be billed until they shipped in May. Perhaps the charge will drop in a few days.

  20. asherspapa says

    One each, although one of them (not sure which) first showed “Back Order” only…refreshed and “Add to Bag” came up along with “Back Order.” Now all five sets are showing “Back Order” only…what does that mean when the Mint is producing to sales only with 100,000 across all sets? Will B/O only be for returns. Since it seems to have taken less than 5 minutes to go to B/O, does that mean that 100,000 across all five varieties were sold? And will we really not know if we bought one until production starts in May? And if it’s a sell out, why wait until May? Why not go ahead and produce what was purchased?
    This is a win for the WWI SD, which apparently sold 100,000 (in the medal sets) within five minutes. I don’t like that the Mint bundled the WWI SD with each medal…probably won’t even be able to get melt for the extras!

  21. gatortreke says

    I am a “sucker” and ordered one of each. I follow the “buy what you like” philosophy, not just the items I think will make me money. I have enjoyed the silver medals from the Coin and Chronicles sets and will continue my medal collection with these.

    My personal favorite is the Air Service medal followed by the Coast Guard, Navy, Army and finally the Marines medals.

    I too am interested to see if I will be charged now for the medals or upon shipping.

  22. Buzz Killington says

    Folks — Please look at the definition of “Back Order” — it is just a gimmick! They are all Back Ordered since they are mint to demand. If you think 100K of these sets have sold already, you are in for a big surprise.

    Actually, if they did sell 100K of these sets already, we can be 100% sure that they will be aftermarket losers.

    On the other hand, if they sell 1,500 of each set by the ordering deadline, you might actually have something!

    The spectre of cancelations also looms large over this issue. I am actually interested to see how all of this is going to play out.

  23. Sherril says

    Does anyone know how long we have to cancel our orders if we decide we do not want them???????I wonder if they will release how many were sold?????If they keep the BO status on each set as was the way they started how will we know if they sold out early?

  24. Mike in NY says

    You would think that once they hit a total of 100,000 total medal sets sold they would all go to Currently Unavailable at the same time. You never know with the mint…

  25. gatortreke says

    I checked my credit card and see that the Mint charge is currently showing as processing. We’ll see if it is posted as a full charge in a day or two or if they are just pinging to see if the card is still good.

  26. KML in KY says

    The big boys may jump on these WW1 medals. If so they will sell out quickly, if not they will linger. 100K max =20K per medal if they sell evenly which they probably won’t. Not a high mintage.

    I could see Coin Vault & Mike Messick hawking these “very rare medals” certified for high prices.

    I saw why the 2018 Congrats Sets went CU so quickly. Coin Vault had PF70’s from these sets for only $149.99 ea. Better get em quick before the price goes up LOL.

  27. cagcrisp says

    With a Ordering Window that Closes in 30 days with Shipments not starting until May…

    …Leaves the Possibility of a Lot of Manipulation…

  28. Daveinswfl says

    The policy SHOULD have been :
    Pay when ordered
    No refunds
    No returns
    No cancellations
    Minted after window closes
    Mintage announced after all units are shipped

    Just too many questions left unanswered
    Surprised?
    No leadership

  29. John Q. Coinage says

    Back Ordered = mint to ORDERS..maybe 40k Army & 2k Coast Guard, who knows, I don’t care not ordering, I’ll wait Just got 5 9/11 Medals for $22 iea….n OGP……. Medals are being held hostage by the WW1 slug…..homey don’t play dis game

  30. datadave says

    It makes sense that the medal sets are listed as BO since the have still to be made. If they sell 100,000 then they should all move to CU or sold out. It also makes sense that they bill your credit card today. That has happened to me on BO items before. Now for cancellation policy, not sure what that will be. And my guess is that there might be some moves from CU to BO depending on if they start releasing sales numbers.

  31. Tinto says

    Though I wanted to get one or two of the medals I didn’t …I don’t want that Zombie WWI dollar at all .. really too bad the Mint had to choose that artist self portrait “coin” to honor those who served in WWI ..

  32. Tinto says

    The Mint is also pulling that BO trick with the 2018 Congratulations set . that has no product limit, no mintage limit and no HH limit .

  33. Ralph says

    I haven’t been on here much lately. I do enjoy reading all the comments when I return.
    I tried to cut and paste a comment to here that I posted on a previous thread and it wouldn’t allow it. Is this new on here?

  34. says

    I wouldn’t consider these medals Mint-to-Demand,

    They could sell 50,000 Army and 30,000 Navy, leaving only 30,000 among the other 3,

    A possibility…

    Most that buy the Proof $1 are likely to go ahead and just pick up the medal set

  35. earthling says

    These will soon be selling ( Dealers will ask $1,000) high. I dont even want any at $99 though.

    Knock yourselves out if you want any. 👍

  36. Zaz says

    Lol. That silver dollar reminds me of Chief Wahoo on Fraser’s Buffalo Nickel. Same inscrutable “noble savage” kind of image, not very p.c. The navy medal is the only one I like of the medals. Pick it one up later as there isn’t that huge of a market for Mint produced medals, unless they are finally going to get into the Red Book. Otherwise generalist collectors simply are unaware of them. So no point to spending $50 on a > $30 item.

  37. Raphael says

    The only one that sells silver at a higher price then the U.S. Mint, is the HSN guy. He is selling 2 oz’s of Silver., of which one oz., is a 2018 Silver Eagle, price $199.00. The mint instead of using common sense and selling the WW1 coins separately requires we buy a pair. The one sold alone I do not care for. Went to their web site, signed in to give them some feedback, searched for the word “feedback”, and they do show any results for that word. Moral to the story is the U.S. Mint could not careless about their customers feedback, even after they redesigned their website a while back, only they know what is best for thier customers, though they talk a good game.

  38. VA Bob says

    I’ll breakout my 2003 National Wildlife set as a reminder not to waste my time. They go for barely above issue price today, but they are nice to look at. Buy the WWI medals if you like over priced silver that makes you buy a coin 1 for 1 you may not like. This is the Mint version of the Affordable Health Care Act, buy the insurance or get a penalty. This is buy the medal and get a penalty.

  39. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    Right wing Politicians, Federal, State, County, and Local Government Bureaucrats, employees of many large Corporations (current and retired) and retirees benefiting from TRICARE conveniently forget that many Americans couldn’t get medical coverage at any price before the ACA.

  40. Mintman says

    The wildlife medals used to go “way over” issue —-surprised they fell back to earth as well
    I’m starting to be very convinced this hobby is about to follow Baseball cards and stamps into the dumps

  41. Tinto says

    @VA Bob

    Yeah, I still have the National Wildlife medals too and yes, they are nice to look at. And I also have the 911 medals, they are also nice to look at. All in OGP.

  42. NCM Collector says

    I prefer mint state to proof but will keep my options open. I don’t expect to buy a Andrew Johnson proof medal.

  43. VA Bob says

    @ Tinto

    I guess the redeeming factor are those wildlife medals cost then is closer to spot today. Maybe these WWI medals will fair the same in the future. Definitely a buy for those that truly like the designs. Just a pity they are forcing people to buy the coin with each medal. Yes, personally I would never slab a modern coin, let alone a medal. I just can’t see the value in it, but I’m happy for those that find joy in it.

  44. VA Bob says

    Qui good point. As long as there is someone in need, someone else will be required to foot the bill. I’ve no issue with a helping hand, it’s the long term, generational aid that gets me. Opportunity is there for those willing to seek it out. Too many examples these days to claim otherwise.

  45. Einbahnstrasse says

    @ NCM Collector

    Ditto that. I don’t care for the look of proofs, especially the recent ones with the gritty rather than frosty cameo finish. The Mint seems to be bringing out more and more products that *only* come in proof–some of them are designs I’d really like to have, but if there isn’t a BU version I usually end up not buying at all.

    I think we’re in the minority on this, though.

  46. Dustyroads says

    I trust everyone is having a fantastic beginning to a brand new year. As for myself I’m looking forward to great things.

    OT, so I hope everyone is okay with that-

    I’ve been looking at charts a lot lately and wanted some opinions on the weekly GOLD chart below. Specifically what I’m interested in are impressions or thoughts on the large amount of bullish flags which have been presenting themselves repeatedly throughout 2017, most of them making higher highs. Any comments are welcomed. Thanks

    https://www.tradingview.com/x/s9sj7L8Z/

  47. Jerry Diekmann says

    Honestly, do we need any more presidential or military-theme coins and medals? Talk about overkill to go along with overpriced. Our country is a lot more than presidents – dead or alive, or military themes. Way past time to honor other aspects of American society – you would think ancient Sparta had come to life as the USM. Just my opinion.

    How many people really want a proof silver medal of John Tyler or James Buchanan or Herbert Hoover or Donald Trump? Why do we want to honor losers-in-chief in our country’s history?

  48. Malco says

    It has been 10 hours since the release of the World War 1 Commemorative Dollar and Medal Sets. Apparently, there is no sell out as some predicted. If the mint is not transparent as to sales weekly on this item and charges people’s credit cards now, there will be an exodus of people’s orders from this unpopular issue. The publicity about the mint will reach loud decibels of discontent.

  49. KEITHSTER says

    Presidential Peace Medals in silver please as the natives are getting restless!!! Not ready for a regular President set again maybe later in silver if they are the true ones> Well Good Luck All We’ll Need It “>”>”>”>”><"<"<"<"<"

  50. earthling says

    It’s time to honor the Donald….. seriously !

    The Donald belongs to America. Everyone WISHES they had some claim to the Donald. But sorry ,the Donald belongs to the USA.

    And while we’re at it, lets celebrate ALL the Donalds friends also. Mickey, Minney, Goofey, Elmer Fudd, Bugs, all of em.

    Who doesn’t want the whole collection? Just make it in Silver … please. Gold not needed or wanted.

  51. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    @ VA BOB

    Your reply had nothing to do with my comments about your ACA bashing.

    However, using your logic, we are certainly “footing the bill” for a LOT of “in need” retired military officers and their families driving on bases to buy their groceries and anything else available.

    There are huge numbers of ex-military in my area and it is quite noticeable that many of them are the first to criticize any government program that THEY don’t benefit from. The policies and programs that benefit them (often double and triple dippers) are sacred cows to them, of course.

  52. VA Bob says

    Qui I didn’t bash the ACA, well no more than I would any other tax on every American just for living. As for the large group of retired military in your area you seem to resent, I suppose you could have put your butt on the line for 20 plus years and reaped their rewards. While you’re at it maybe you can swing by your nearest VA hospital or cemetery and see how some of them are enjoying their eroding benefits. Thanks for finally speaking up about your backhanded comment was directed at me.

    As for military coins, I do agree with Jerry that the Mint can go overboard on them. That’s said, WWI was pretty significant 100 year anniversary. IMO the Mint just didn’t do the medals justice tying each one to an odd, to put it nicely, coin. Reminds me of a prize fighter with a busted nose.

  53. So Krates says

    @ Qui/VA Bob

    Folks who roll the dice and carry no health insurance (but expect to be treated no questions asked at the ER) are freeloaders.

    As an alternative to a tax penalty or a mandated purchase of private insurance, we should be required to post a significant surety bond to cover some of the expenses in case of catastrophic illness or accidents.

    So you can either:

    1. Buy insurance or
    2. Pay the penalty or
    3. Self-insure

    This used to be a viable legal alternative to mandatory purchasing of auto insurance. The states used to allow uninsured drivers to post a bond to cover damages. There may be one or two states left that still allow this but the parasitic insurance companies have long since infiltrated and influenced most state legislatures and gotten laws passed which require mandatory purchase of their products along with laws to benefit their bottom lines (seat belt and helmet laws)

  54. So Krates says

    Out, damned spot! out, I say!

    Have no fear, purchasers of the pink. The mammary alloy should be more stable with less chance of copper spotting than the traditional commemorative composition. Rose gold, as it’s properly called, has been used in jewelry and high end watches with excellent results for many years. Those copper percentages are much higher than what will be in the coming bosom blanks. Might have to watch out for milk spots though 😉

    This won’t be news to old timers but did you know that until just a couple of decades ago it was considered quite uncouth to even udder the word “breast” or “thigh”. Please pass the white meat (breast), I like the dark meat or drumstick (thigh). These euphemisms were employed to describe poultry anatomy to avoid saying the words, breast and leg (Oh my!) In fact, doctors used to have figurines in their offices so a modest woman could point to the spot on the doll which corresponded to the location of her ailment without having to speak the word. Now we have daytime television commercials with blue liquids poured on pads and coins from the Mint with the word BREAST on the same coin as GOD. .You’ve come a long way, baby.

  55. Daveinswfl says

    Dustyroads says

    I like to look at weekly charts over a long period (5 years). That chart shows a very nice4 year basing which is pretty symmetric. Breaking 1400 is the key point to beginning a new bull leg for gold. Hopefully 1300 will hold here, but 1250 is fairly crucial to maintaining the current run.
    The washout at the end of 2016 was an excellent buying opportunity, as gold had corrected close to 50%.
    Demand has been fairly strong since Christmas.

  56. cagcrisp says

    @Daveinswfl. “The washout at the end of 2016 was an excellent buying opportunity, as gold had corrected close to 50%.”

    50%?

    Gold was ~ $1,150.90 on 12/30/16

    Gold Spot currently ~ $1,330.60

    That’s ~ 15.6% Increase …

    …And the USD is Down 11.4% in that same time frame…

  57. Daveinswfl says

    Cag,
    I was referring to the drop from the 2011 high of 1900 to the 2016correction low of 1050.

  58. cagcrisp says

    @Daveinswfl , I just don’t see Any Increase demand whatsoever for current modern Gold or Silver.

    Gold and Silver are just price adjusting to the Dollar…

  59. Dustyroads says

    Thanks Dave. I’m wondering if gold will hit resistance at 1400. If that is going to happen it’s not long off. However, I would be surprised to see it break through without something significant happening to push it higher in the next few months.

  60. Mattarch says

    Regarding the Rose Gold. My wedding ring has a band of rose gold between 2 narrower bands of 24kt. gold. No spotting after 15 years.

  61. Daveinswfl says

    Cag,
    That is the purpose of owning gold! It does not get more valuable…..the dollar just keeps losing value.
    However, gold does go on sale periodically. Like December of 2016.
    Right now it is pretty fully valued
    Those wanting a better understanding should check out a site called Monetary Metals.

  62. Fmtransmitter says

    Happy New year’s collector’s! Been a long while since posting in here but rest assured, I have been lurking in the shadows…Wanted to let y’all know I have two lots of silver coins on eBay right now. Both started at $.99
    Here’s link and then you can see other one by looking at other items for sale. One had two ATB 5 OZ in it! Thanks and hope everyone is happy and healthy this year.
    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F253376432761

  63. Dustyroads says

    Sherril, Any time I’ve wanted to cancel an order it’s always a matter of whether the USM has processed the order.

  64. cagcrisp says

    @Daveinswfl, “That is the purpose of owning gold! It does not get more valuable…..the dollar just keeps losing value.”

    I’m not talking about the dollar losing vs. inflation. I’m talking about the dollar being brought down on purpose.

    Owning Gold to hedge against inflation is one thing and owning Gold to hedge against a currency devaluation is a different subject…

  65. Throckmorton says

    “Close to 4 Million Gold Walking Liberty Half Dollar Commemorative special strike pieces came from the West Point Mint in 2016. So far, PCGS has only graded 3000 at the stellar level of Special Strike 70.

    So many collectors love the Weinman’s Walking Liberty Half. This design looks spectacular in gold, and the mint chose to keep rather true to the 1916 original.

    Considering the beloved design, it’s surprising that even 70s are trading with only a relatively small premium above gold spot price.”

    To learn more about the 2016-W Gold Walking Liberty Half, including pricing, population, and auction records, go to PCGS CoinFacts.

    I didn’t know that they struck 4 mil of these guys.

  66. Einbahnstrasse says

    They didn’t–the mintage limit was 70,000 and they didn’t sell all of those. Dunno where the 4 million figure came from…?

  67. joe#2 says

    The 2016 gold w.l.h. IS an awesome piece. I have 1 graded pcgs sp-70 and love it. The 2016 gold mercury dime is also awesome…Have one in pcgs sp-70 and love that one as well. The Mint did a great job on those pieces.

  68. NCM Collector says

    If you take coin facts as gospel, the mintage for the gold dime was 0 yet they sold plenty. To quote X Files, Trust no one”.

  69. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    @VA Bob

    I got tired of coming to a coin site and seeing (a few) posters like YOU, who can’t stop using it as a political forum to bash the policies of a President out of office for over a year….

    I visited my Father at the Cemetery a few days ago, thanks.

    In 1946, at the age of 17, after a stint in the Merchant Marine at age 16, he served as a US Army Signal Corp lineman stringing wire in the hot zone in Japan. He died early of an environmentally related leukemia.

    I miss him every day. He never bought a single tax free item on a military base, didn’t make a career of living off his GI benefits (no VA treatment at all) and didn’t bash good government programs and policies just because he didn’t directly benefit from them.

    If you don’t like criticism, keep your politics off the board.

    Over and out on this subject.

  70. Jeffrey says

    From the mint website regarding the 5 medal sets:

    “These sets are limited to 100,000 units across all five medal product options, and can be ordered only between noon ET on January 17, 2018, and 3 p.m. ET on February 20, 2018, unless the limit is reached prior to that date. Production will be based on the orders received within this window. Fulfillment of these sets will begin in late May 2018.”

  71. CW says

    @Qui Transtulit Sustinet, it works both ways, but your partisan blinders fail to see it. Cast the first stone? Some of us are tired of the hero worship of Obama permeating even hobby sites that have zero to do with him.

  72. VA Bob says

    Nice try Qui, but I haven’t posted much here in years, and never deeply political. I realize many of the commentor’s here lean left, and I don’t have a problem with that. I still like their coin commentary, and would surely be friends offline in person, regardless of politics, so I really don’t know what your beef is about. Thanks for sharing the story about your dad, I applaud his service and give my thanks, but it doesn’t necessarily translate to people that ride the coat tails. You speak of your fathers self-reliance while you excuse others lack of it. Some how this great country managed before the universal health tax, now according to some such as yourself, it’s less without it. Seems if everything was based on ones ability to pay, I’m sure picking up the bill fatigue would eventually bother even you. I see help wanted signs everywhere, and have no problem with people that try to provide, there are plenty out there. I’m just fed up with the bloat, waste, and outright fraud that the taxpayers must endure. There’s plenty of that too, in all areas of government.

  73. John Q. Coinage says

    I am not left nor right in politix but all I can say is the well has been poisoned & is getting worse, no one can get along anymore, Reagan went out & drank with Tip…. since CLinton Impeachment the war lines are up & not going away, @ the time seemed stupid, today might happen inlight of all the #Me2 stuff, but maybe not Trump is Reagan’esque in his Teflon abilities…..health care was f’d up BEFORE ACA, I paid $900 a year the year before ACA, the 1st year was $430 with close coverage, & now is after the years & push to repear, etc & Ins co. padding back up almost $1k a month- I pay don’t get it @ work & make to much $ to get subsidised & unlike alot of ACA haters duhh I get sick, I may get real sick & you have to have insurance, or you just go to the ER & we the taxpayers pay for the deadbeats, nothing new…absent a mandate Health insurers make tons of $ & decline the preexisting lest they might lose money. Still boggles me that Blue+ et al., claim they are getting killed bu tpay their CEO’s like $25M a YEAR. End game, MEDICARE for all, starting with 60-64 year olds & roll it back, 2.5% admin fee v. Blue+ et al., gettgin 22% (Per ACA!) for profit health care is a loser for EVERYONE except the insurers, who are really just POS that only want to DENY claims & have you die, I’ve been there, declined to pay for angioplasty with a 95% blockage Blue Cross said it was an ‘elective’ procedure, wold not pay the $7k the hospital wanted…appeals, fights, rejects, reviews, etc. a year later CA Dept. fo Managed care made Blue+ pay $65,000 for bad faith denial, but I fought the scum claim dept. @ Blue+…..government runs MediCare pretty well to all you naysayers…..2.5% v. 22..5% who is efficient there!!

  74. JeffreyR says

    Sales Figures as of 1/21/18:

    Commemoratives 18CA 2018 WWI CENTENNIAL SILVER PROOF 24,989
    Commemoratives 18CB 2018 WWI CENTENNIAL SILVER UNC 10,013
    Commemoratives 18CC 2018 WWI CENTENNIAL COIN & MEDAL – ARMY 11,272
    Commemoratives 18CD 2018 WWI CENTENNIAL COIN & MEDAL – AIR SERV 9,343
    Commemoratives 18CM 2018 WWI CENTENNIAL COIN & MEDAL – NAVY 9,334
    Commemoratives 18CN 2018 WWI CENTENNIAL COIN & MEDAL – MARINES 9,417
    Commemoratives 18CP 2018 WWI CENTENNIAL COIN & MEDAL – COAST GRD 7,695

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