Mint adds American Liberty high-relief photos to library; announces release of 2017 Proof sets on March 29

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Update, March 31, 1:15 p.m.: Click here for an exclusive preview of the 2017 American Liberty silver medal at the Whitman Baltimore Expo.

For the last couple of weeks, collectors have been noticing the lack of images of the 2017 American Liberty high-relief gold coin on the Mint’s product schedule. As the release dates approached for the coins preceding it on the calendar—the Boys Town commemoratives, the 2017 Proof Set, and the Frederick Douglass National Historic Site quarters—their photos appeared in the normal manner. When the American Liberty’s turn came, the Mint skipped over it and added photos of the next two products on the April schedule: the ATB quarters Uncirculated set and the Frederick Douglass three-coin set. That left the calendar complete except for the one glaring omission.

It isn’t unheard-of for a product to be unillustrated 10 days ahead of its release—but given that the American Liberty coin is the Mint’s highlight of 2017, as well as being an expensive item that one would expect to be heavily promoted, some collectors were worried the Mint would cancel it. Perhaps it was too controversial; perhaps the unpredictable new administration in the White House might target the coin in an excess of money-saving zeal.

Those who’ve been worried that cancellation was a possibility will be glad to know that, as of this morning, the Mint has officially added the American Liberty images to its library—the precursor to adding photos to the product page. In addition to the normal obverse and reverse shots and the new norm of an angled shot, the Mint added two additional angled shots to show the depth of relief and the complete edge lettering (see below). Barring strange and unforeseen circumstances, we can expect the product catalog to get its images shortly.

On a different note, the 2017 U.S. Mint Proof Set will be available at noon (Eastern) on Wednesday, March 29. The Mint’s press release follows the American Liberty images below.

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(Washington)—The Mint will begin accepting orders for the 2017 United States Mint Proof Set (17RG) on March 29 at noon Eastern Time.

This set includes the following coins, all with the S mintmark of the U.S. Mint at San Francisco:

  • Five America the Beautiful Quarters Program coins honoring Effigy Mounds National Monument (Iowa), Frederick Douglass National Historic Site (Washington, DC), Ozark National Scenic Riverways (Missouri), Ellis Island (Statue of Liberty National Monument; New Jersey), and George Rogers Clark National Historical Park (Indiana)
  • One Native American $1 coin with a reverse design featuring a profile of Sequoyah writing “Sequoyah from Cherokee Nation” in the Cherokee syllabary (writing system) along the border of the design
  • One Kennedy half dollar
  • One Roosevelt dime
  • One Jefferson nickel
  • One Lincoln penny

The coins are sealed in two protective lenses to accentuate and maintain their exceptional quality. In 2017, the front of the carton has an image of the Washington Monument at sunrise. The back of the carton has an image of each America the Beautiful Quarters national park or site honored in 2017 (along with the year in which it was first established as a national site, its name, and the host jurisdiction), and the partial obverse coin images of the remaining coins. A certificate of authenticity accompanies each set.

The 2017 United States Mint Proof Set is priced at $26.95. Orders will be accepted at https://catalog.usmint.gov/coins/proof-sets/ and at 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468). Hearing- and speech-impaired customers with TTY equipment may order at 1-888-321-MINT. Information about shipping options is available at https://catalog.usmint.gov/customer-service/shipping.html.

The United States Mint Proof Set can also be purchased through the Mint’s Product Enrollment Program. Visit https://catalog.usmint.gov/shop/product-enrollments/ to learn more about this convenient ordering method.

About the United States Mint

The United States Mint was created by Congress in 1792 and became part of the Department of the Treasury in 1873. It is the nation’s sole manufacturer of legal-tender coinage and is responsible for producing circulating coinage for the nation to conduct its trade and commerce. The Mint also produces numismatic products, including Proof, uncirculated, and commemorative coins; Congressional Gold Medals; and silver, gold, and platinum bullion coins. Its numismatic programs are self-sustaining and operate at no cost to taxpayers. The Mint is celebrating its 225th anniversary in 2017 (#USMint225).   ❑

Press release courtesy of the U.S. Mint.

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Comments

  1. KEITHSTER says

    That Eagle looks mad as heck Eddy but will try to get one ! That’s if the IRS don’t get to Me first? Well Good Luck All “>

  2. cagcrisp says

    Gold PM Fix $1,257.55

    ALL that has to happen Now is for Gold Fixes to Remain above $1,250.00…

  3. John Q. Coinage says

    This is a poor design year for the mint & us collectors. 2 charity coin series w/o any historical one? Kennedy turns 100! etc. Lions & Priests, pass. As for this it’s overpriced & seems (not that there is ANYTHING wrong with it..) designed as a PC coin. Liberty @ the Top of Capital has been a native American I think but this coin is just too Starry for me, & the mintage #s will mean no sell out, no leg$…..maybe they will do the Palladium coin, but why a Merc face, lets get out of the early 20th Century already, how about a Flowing Hair or Bust design….I am old I guess….

  4. cagcrisp says

    From WSJ:

    “IRS Crackdown on Bitcoin Exchange Fuels Privacy Worries”

    “Coinbase resists summons demanding transaction and user profile records”

    IF the IRS want’s user profiles and transactions, you can say Stick a Fork…

  5. felson says

    Yeah… didn’t buy the last one… won’t buy this one. The mint might believe there are a bunch of people interested in the $400 over bullion coins… but a bunch will be sold like the last one… to re-sellers. I guess that is their target these days for over priced products.

  6. Ernesto says

    With the price of gold going up I’m not going to be able to afford the hefty premium that will be added to the coin. I’ll have to pass and wait for the silver medal version like I did with the other high relief coin. Maybe I’ll eventually be able to get it for less on the secondary market.

  7. says

    To Buy.., Or to Wait…

    Gold Prices & the ’17 High Relief Liberty

    Often many on this blog (including myself) contemplate when to buy.., which begs the question, what do we know?

    Well, here’s what we know..,

    1. The HR is most likely going to be around for 2 years.

    2. Gold prices are all over the map and very volatile recently.

    We can also assume:

    a. Gold will continue to be extremely volatile and incur sporadic price swings.
    b. Gold may go DOWN with strength in the USD as a result of growth, rates, or a border tax adjustment.
    c. Gold may go UP as a result of Euro-issues, geopolitical uncertainty in hotspots, random tweets, or delayed political agendas (as we’re experiencing now)

    So, to Buy, or to Wait..,

    The HR Liberty carries a $440 premium.

    It’s looking like the HR may be a $1,690 coin in the $1,250 to 1,299 pricing grid.

    Let’s ASSUME, the high range for Gold for the year is $1,400.00 and the low range is $1,100.00.

    Come 06 April ’17, the HR may be $1,640.., or more like $1,690.

    On our assumptions –

    At the high range, your coin is $1,840.

    At the low range, your coin is $1,540.

    $200 Up.., or $100+ Down

    To Buy.., or to Wait? Beats the hell out of me.., I just know you’ll likely have 2 years to figure it out! 😃

  8. The Coin Doctor says

    Pass, the eagle and liberty on the front look mad. The crown of stars looks dumb, just a bad design. Should have did a front shot of liberty.

  9. TemplePriestess says

    I like this coin but not the premium. And with so many coins being struck the secondary market maybe the way to go when gold declines alittle. Does anyone know when the liberty silver medal is scheduled to be released?

  10. says

    Lady Bird – 8

    Jackie – 93

    I bet a HR Liberty that within the next 20 posts someone will come on this blog and ask, “Hey, what’s the price of this coin going to be?”

  11. cagcrisp says

    @KCSO, Good analysis.

    Unless the Mint pulls the offering early, As you say, “I just know you’ll likely have 2 years to figure it out! 😃”

    …SO…IF you purchase early you are Thinking that Gold is the Lowest Point it will be for the next 2 years.

    With the Pulling of repeal/replace on Friday it makes the Boarder Tax (whatever the percentage you put on it) a Higher percentage of happening.

    The number being tossed around is 20% Border Tax which would put Gold ~ $1,000

    I’m not in favor of the Border tax, nor do I think it will happen, however, it is More likely to happen Now than it was before Pulling of repeal/replace.

    For me there is NO good reason to purchase the 2017 HR Launch Day…

  12. says

    Thanks,

    @ $1,000 – HR Liberty is $1,440.

    Silver HR Liberty – on the mint’s early preliminary schedule – 4th Qtr., FY’17,

    so July, August, or September

  13. KEITHSTER says

    No I just meant its tax time and being single they always seem to want more and more! As I always seem to wait to the last min. will have to figure out much they forgot to take out of my checks this time ? So just one of those you know death or taxes things and as I’m still here looks like the tax thing again this year”> But thanks Dustyroads but it’s not just the mint that socks it to Us. Just wishing to get them done at the same dime sucks you know pun intended But Good Luck To You & All “> “>”> “>”>”>

  14. Dustyroads says

    KEITHSTER, My money is going to the University of North Texas, if I could write it off I would. Anything to bring down personal income is a most. To bad expenditures on gold don’t count. Gone are the days of writing off day care….the simple days.

  15. Jerry Diekmann says

    Not having a money tree growing in my back yard, I have to decide on what coins and medals that the Mint produces that is really worth buying and saving. This medal, with a $440 premium to a rising gold market, and an inferior design – and no, I am not a racist – is a “no way – pass’ for me. I did buy the gold and silver medals last year, but this year looks to be one of the more boring years in Mint offerings – nothing really exciting or monumental. As usual, the Mint let another opportunity go by – 2017 being the 100th anniversary of JFK’s birth. They could have maybe issued a commemorative silver half dollar or dollar to mark the occasion, but no, never let a good idea see the light of day in DC.

    P.S. – Why be so greedy and demand a $440.00 premium? What would be so bad about a $100.00 or $200.00 premium? The Mint would probably even make more money that way if coin collectors and investors didn’t have to think they were dealing with some greedy shark.

  16. Dustyroads says

    To those who are thinking of buying this coin coin because you’re planing to flip one or more and buy yours at a discount, think twice. This coin is not for you. This coin is for the collector who is going to hold it because he or she likes the coin. Regardless of the fact, the US Mint is not releasing this coin in a way that will be lucrative for flippers. Granted, graded 70’s will have a small premium in the secondary market, but your coin in OGP will most likely have trouble holding it’s original sale price.
    For those who are planning to buy this coin because you’re speculating that it will be the next Pan Pac gold coin, don’t forget about the pile of other coins once speculated upon.

    Buy with peace in your heart that you are doing the right thing and you will never go wrong.

  17. Erik H says

    Gold / Silver up but the gold / silver miners are down. This has been happening for a few weeks now, why??

  18. cagcrisp says

    Gold AM Fix $1,253.65

    Gold PM Fix $1,257.25

    Gold Solidly in line for an Increase tomorrow…

  19. cagcrisp says

    Effigy Mounds Bullion puck has ‘inched’ its way Upward.

    Now standing at the Lofty number of 19,700

    The Lowest All Time bullion puck final sales is 20,000

    …SO…Effigy Mounds continues to be the Most Unloved puck of All Time…

  20. John Q. Coinage says

    Erik “historically’ the mining sector leads the physical market, so a fall in mining stox might mean a drop in spot, lately AG has been very range & profit taker bound between $15’ish & $19 & @ the top end a sell off for PROFIT$. I am a big silver bug – but to be real there are factors in the market WE can’t control or know. As Fed% is raised gold/AG may lose some buyers. But in the LONG run, there will be a reckoning when all the paper dollars come home to roost, etc. As to the pucks…..@ my local store(s) the funny thing is no dealers, until last year, ever said they ever had some1 coming into buy one….and they wanted Volcanoes!!

  21. cagcrisp says

    New Sales item Never before Listed

    New Sales Item that Number doesn’t Exist

    17EA042 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (BULK) 186

  22. cagcrisp says

    17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – EFF MNDS 15,022 + 306
    16AN 2016 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – FT MLTR 16,778 + 105

  23. cagcrisp says

    16EA 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 554,124 + 4,070

    16EB 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 23,506 + 36
    16EC 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 5,662 +3
    16EF 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 17,218

    16EG 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER UNC 1 OZ 191,037 +3,673

  24. cagcrisp says

    16XA 2016 WALKING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .5OZ 62,125 + 215
    16XB 2016 MERCURY DIME 24K GOLD .1OZ 124,885 –
    16XC 2016 STANDING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .25OZ 88,914 + 119

  25. cagcrisp says

    Both BT Golds are tracking to be ALL TIME LOW MINTAGE WONDERS…

    17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1,017 + 72
    17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1,351 + 149
    17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 13,865 +1,727
    17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 6,830 +709
    17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 11,944 +1,105
    17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 11,804 +667
    17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 3,881 +252

  26. cagcrisp says

    Lions Club Proof Silver continues to be a bright spot for the Mint

    (Lions Club Unc Silver continues to be a blight for the Mint)

    17CH 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER PROOF 55,919 + 2,253
    17CJ 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER UNC 14,796 + 205

  27. cagcrisp says

    A Continuation of Weak Gold numbers…

    17EB 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 3,781 + 257
    17EC 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 794 +64
    17ED 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/4 OZ 1,026 + 92
    17EE 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/10 OZ 5,673 +731
    17EF 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 6,268 + 221

  28. cagcrisp says

    16SA 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – NIXON 2,496 + 4
    16SB 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – NIXON 1,591 +11
    16SC 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – FORD 2,295 + 4
    16SD 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – FORD 1,584 + 5
    16SE 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 3,392 +3
    16SF 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 1,834 + 1

    JQ1 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 2,635 +11
    JQ2 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 1,851 –
    JQ4 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – EISENHWR 1,971 +2
    JQ6 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – KENNEDY 6,615 +17
    JQ7 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 2,646 + 5
    JQ8 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 1,754 –

  29. Rick says

    “Lady Bird” Johnson 2015 First Spouse Series One-Half Ounce Gold Proof CoinWest Point (W)
    This item is currently not available.
    Fast gun?

  30. cagcrisp says

    Just How Bad is Dismal Boys Towns vs. Dismal National Parks Service?

    Both are After 3 weeks of Sales:

    2016 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE GOLD PROOF 2,866
    2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1,017
    Sales Numbers Down 1,849
    Percentage Down 65%

    2016 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE GOLD UNC 2,217
    2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1,351
    Sales Numbers Down 866
    Percentage Down 39%

    2016 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SILVER PROOF 29,234
    2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 13,865
    Sales Numbers Down 15,369
    Percentage Down 53%

    2016 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE SILVER UNC 11,931
    2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 6,830
    Sales Numbers Down 5,101
    Percentage Down 43%

    2016 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE CLAD PROOF 21,492
    2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 11,944
    Sales Numbers Down 9,548
    Percentage Down 44%

    2016 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE CLAD UNC 11,617
    2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 11,804
    Sales Numbers Up 187
    Percentage Up 2%

    2016 NATIONAL PARK SERVICE 3-COIN SET 9,808
    2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 3,881
    Sales Numbers Down 5,927
    Percentage Down 60%

  31. Leo S. says

    @Rick

    Looks like the first chink in the dirty dozen. The Mint needs to drop the price on all the remainder to $600 and they will get rid of them all. I (like a fool) collected them all and am sick of seeing them on the site. My only hope is for spot to go up to around 1700 and I can break even.

    Oh well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

  32. Rick says

    Fischer the dove talked nicely about two more hikes, dxy up gold down, very interesting price action after the dovish talk this afternoon.

  33. cagcrisp says

    I’m just wondering if the Mint has Finally started selling directly to the Graders/Dealers/Big Boys without packaging for a Cheaper price to get Graded and that is what this Sales number is for:

    17EA042 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (BULK) 186

  34. says

    Rick says
    MARCH 28, 2017 AT 3:36 PM

    “Lady Bird” Johnson 2015 First Spouse Series One-Half Ounce Gold Proof CoinWest Point (W)
    This item is currently not available.
    Fast gun?

    They’ll likely go up $25 tomorrow;

    anticipate a screeching halt to gold sales in the coming week

  35. Einbahnstrasse says

    Just received my Boys Town commems (waited a couple of weeks to order on the theory that gold might go down a bracket, but it didn’t) and I have to say that the silver is *glorious*. Best design on a commem $1 in years. I may have to order another one in order to display the obverse & reverse side-by-side, since the designs actually relate to each other so well.

  36. bobo says

    Surprising that the boys town gold proof has undersold the gold unc. I can’t remember a gold commem where this happened. Can anyone remember another case?

    Also, note that the boys town gold coins are not listed on the ‘gold coins’ tab on the usmint website.

  37. felson says

    Mr. CC… I noticed the other day on the bay… Canadian Proof coins being sold in bulk or fresh from mint tubes. I think maybe you are on too something…

  38. says

    To those trying to justify the cost of a HR Liberty at $1,690..,

    Consider this –

    Modern golds that command a hefty premium, a rarity in their own right, really only maintain a 2x to 2.5x numismatic premium to their release price. Do the homework, you’ll see.

    Now, there’s exceptions such as the ’08 Buff’s, the ’06 RP AGE, and a few others.

    But as a general rule, the best one can hope for is 2x to 2.5x, I firmly believe this. Though there’s no guarantee that the numismatic value will hold, as gold prices go up over time.
    A topic for another time.

    Now, take that cost of a HR coin at $1,695 annualized at 8% over 10 years, where might you be?

    = $3,659. Yup.

    Where do you think spot gold prices will be in 10 years?

    Ever tried liquidating a high dollar coin?

    Just food for thought.., all worthy of consideration before making the plunge.

  39. Mario Bolusi says

    KCSO says
    MARCH 27, 2017 AT 6:04 PM

    Lady Bird – 8

    Jackie – 93

    I bet a HR Liberty that within the next 20 posts someone will come on this blog and ask, “Hey, what’s the price of this coin going to be?”

    KCSO,

    Where can I find the number of coins left in inventory as listed above. Thank you

  40. Larry says

    The American Eagle Silver Proof coin for sale now has a W mint mark. Take a look at the upcoming Congratulation Set. The American Eagle Silver Proof in that set has a S mint mark!I had to look twice just to make sure, but there is no doubt about it! Since there is no mintage limit probably no big deal.

  41. cagcrisp says

    @Larry , When I discussed last week the first day Sales numbers for the Proof ASE and today’s first week sales , I Noted ” Considering ”

    One of the “Considering ” was due to ASE Proof sales (W) being siphoned off by the “S” in the Congratulation set…

  42. earthling says

    I want a a truckload of these HR Coins – as soon as they put out the “Peoples Version” . That would be a Manganese coated Copper version – sized and denominated in the Half Dollar unit.

    Sell em at a buck a piece. Do it quick before the Chinese jump into the market.

  43. Ryan says

    The world markets are so screwed in the long term when the worlds central banks are using “jawboning” as their primary tool.

  44. says

    Larry – Great Catch!

    You get a ⭐️Star for that.

    Product listing STATES:

    New for 2017 – set contains the 2017 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Proof Coin bearing the “S” mint mark from the San Francisco Mint

  45. says

    I don’t recall anyone commenting on that before, otherwise I missed it.

    And if I did, it’s a SAD STATE AFFAIRS if there wasn’t more dialogue on it.

    Again, Hawkeye Larry – nice discovery

  46. A&L Futures says

    Imagine if this set sold less than 30,125 units?

    “Get your coin gift set today while supplies last!” —- this language was NOT included in the 2016 release.

  47. says

    March Madness!
    Wrong week to sell out of 2016 Proofs sets, I wonder what will be next, when it rains, it pours.

    Watch Ford go 99 in the high 1,500’s

    You just know something else is going to break loose, I feel it in my gut,

  48. Dustyroads says

    The 2012-S is a common coin. This one’s going to have to sell far fewer and try to stay out of other offerings unlike the 2012.

  49. J. Miller says

    I’m in for 5, but if they are going to be removed after a year and it’s around
    the 1995-W mintage, I think a box of 50 will have to be ordered 🙂

  50. Hidalgo says

    Larry: an excellent marketing tool. The S mint mark surely will generate more sales and increased revenue for the US Mint.

    ———————————

    Larry says
    MARCH 28, 2017 AT 7:32 PM

    The American Eagle Silver Proof coin for sale now has a W mint mark. Take a look at the upcoming Congratulation Set. The American Eagle Silver Proof in that set has a S mint mark!I had to look twice just to make sure, but there is no doubt about it! Since there is no mintage limit probably no big deal.

  51. says

    Wow Wow Wow

    2017 High Relief Liberty –

    Mintage Limit: 100,000
    Product Limit: None
    Household Order Limit: None

  52. says

    DESCRIPTION

    2017 marks the 225th anniversary of the United States Mint. To mark this momentous occasion, we are proud to introduce the 2017 American Liberty 225th Anniversary Gold Coin™ featuring a modern rendition of Lady Liberty.

    Emblematic figures of liberty have graced American coins since the founding of the United States Mint 225 years ago. Our newest Lady Liberty is a modern rendition of this iconic figure that embodies the ideals of freedom and equality first set forth in our Declaration of Independence.

    American Liberty 225th Anniversary Gold Coins are minted in 99.99% 24–karat gold, in high–relief, with raised edge lettering, and a proof finish. Each coin is hand packaged in an exquisite, black lacquered hardwood presentation case and is accompanied by a companion booklet detailing the evolution of our Nation’s symbol.

    The obverse (heads) features a profile of Liberty wearing a crown of stars. Inscriptions are “LIBERTY,” “1792,” “2017,” and “IN GOD WE TRUST.”

    The reverse (tails) depicts a bold and powerful eagle in flight, with eyes toward opportunity and a determination to attain it. Inscriptions are “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,” “E PLURIBUS UNUM,” “1 OZ.,” “.9999 FINE GOLD,” and “100 DOLLARS.”

  53. cagcrisp says

    The pictures, the box, the booklet all look formidable for the HR.

    The Mintage is way to High.

    I DO agree with No HHL…

  54. felson says

    Those images… the poor girls head looks like a basketball with all that hair wadded up on the back of her head. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a bun that poorly conceived.

  55. earthling says

    “What are the general thoughts on the –
    Household Order Limit: None ????”

    Well….. if……….

    If…. the …. decimal was moved about one place to the left. … it would sell out really fast. But ……..

    The Mint better keep its fingers crossed to sell more than 66,600 … in 2 years.

    😈

  56. felson says

    The mint struggled to sell 50,000 of the 1st of it’s kind issued… and now thinks 100,000 is a better target? I suspect they are looking for re-sellers to take a big share of these on 1st day of issue.

  57. data dave says

    @cagcrisp – So I wonder how many are in the ASE bulk pack?

    17EA042 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (BULK) 186

    Does the 42 give us a clue? Are they allowed to sell product versions without a public announcement? Or does it simply indicate that some customers ordered over a certain number and they had them pre-packaged in bulk containers for quick shipping? Maybe 42 in a large box? I have never ordered more than 10 of anything so I wouldn’t know.

    Thanks as always for providing the stats here!

  58. Larry says

    Perhaps the mint has many surprises up its sleeve for the 225th anniversary. First he 2017 P penny, now the 2017 S Proof Silver Eagle. Keep your eyes peeled!
    As for the S Eagle, what if the mint decided to say there is no mintage limit, but they only made so many and when they are gone they are gone? Maybe they only made 25,000. Who knows. Is it worth the $54.95 risk?

  59. David says

    That obverse of that gold coin does not appeal to me at all. However, I do like the reverse. It’s sad that gold and platinum get all the excellent reverse designs. As for the proof set, it’s still overpriced in my opinion. I for one really hope after the ATB quarters end that we go back to a single design, even if its the pre 1999 design.

  60. Dustyroads says

    I agree with cag, 100,000 is too many, but the Mint did the right thing by not imposing HHL’s.

  61. says

    When did eBay start charging Sales Tax?

    Or should I say, does eBay charge for Sales Tax for same state purchases?

    Or is that charged and collected by the SELLER?

    I just got dinged a handsome amount and would like to clarify before providing feedback as there’s no mention of it in the buyer’s listing.

    Thanks

  62. Dustyroads says

    The Congratulations Set or ASE would be the perfect gift for a graduate IF the coin turns out to be the lowest mintage. But, with no mintage and many chasers, I wouldn’t exactly go out and buy 50.

  63. Buzz Killington says

    @stevefromflorida

    You are forgetting to add in the gold coins from the 3 coin set on Boys Town. More proof golds were sold than Unc.

  64. HB Guy says

    I’ll venture a guess of no more than 10,000 for the 2017 Liberty coin, which is too bad, given the really stellar reverse design. The obverse is PC and disgusting, but on the bright side, could be one of the highest totals to date for the Presidential Spouse series, since this coin has Michelle Obama with bling.

    Since this series will be PC, what’s next, a Latina with a toilet brush, or some other concoction?

  65. cagcrisp says

    @data dave, ” So I wonder how many are in the ASE bulk pack?”

    Good question. I know that it was recommended to the Mint “The goal of our last recommendation is to make sure popular products are available to as many collectors as possible while giving dealers an earlier opportunity to buy them in bulk. “

  66. cagcrisp says

    Gold PM Fix $1,251.10

    There WILL be a Gold price Increase this afternoon…

    IF Gold stays at Current level the 2017 HR will be $1,690.00…

  67. smalltimecollector says

    I think it’s anatomically incorrect.
    The designer took liberty with the design of the reverse.
    Living in an area flush with bald eagles the image first appears eagle-like yet a few details are wrong.
    5 flight feathers, length of tail (even though cut-off, the feathers are beginning the bend entirely too far forward (short), something is not right with the head, the proportion of the first section of the wing is too short (almost crow-like).
    This indicates, to me, problems with the committee choosing design. reality?

  68. sharks2th says

    @KCSO – I had this happen to me twice in a week recently on the bay. When I pushed the seller to provide me their State Tax ID they refunded the tax they collected without further communication. The bay hides this in the “shipping” drop down menu.

    I complained so maybe the Bay will make sellers show this upfront where it is not hidden in a drop down section. More people need to complain to the bay about this fraudulent/underhanded practice. There appear to be a lot of drop sellers from Amazon selling on the bay and having Amazon ship the items, which is triggering the tax being charged. I don’t mind when I know up front they will be charging tax and they are a legit business which will send the $$ to the state. This affects my bid on most items if I know tax will be part of the price.

    If the seller can not provide you a valid State Tax ID which can be verified with the state, then they are probably just scamming people to take in more money and not sending it to the states.

    The second seller I had the “tax” issue with was charging a rate way over the actual state rate. This seller also refunded the tax when I questioned the rate as not being appropriate for the state where the item was being sent.

    Question everything!!! Especially if it appears to be an underhanded scam to squeeze a little more out of you. This hiding the tax collecting on the bay MUST be changed so it is known before bidding on or buying an item. Everyone using the bay should complain about this because it is eventually going to hit you on a purchase you did not think would charge tax.

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