Mint news roundup: Platinum Eagle Proofs, ATB 5-ounce silver, and other news

Mint news roundup

Mint Ekes Out Two More Dates on the Calendar

Through the first half of 2017, the Mint has laid out its calendar one month at a time, as opposed to committing to a full year’s schedule as it has done in the past. Last week the Mint added items to the July calendar—but only through July 11.

The first of two July items now listed is the 2017-W American Eagle platinum Proof coin (17EJ), which is scheduled to go on sale at noon on Thursday, July 6. In recent years, APE Proofs have been issued in multi-year series: Vistas of Liberty (1998–2002), Foundations of Democracy (2006–2008), Preamble to the Constitution (2009–2014), and Torches of Liberty (2015–2016). (A new, three-year series, Preamble to the Declaration of Independence, will commence in 2018.) During non-series years—namely 1997 and 2003–2005—each APE issue has had a unique reverse design.

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This year’s issue will not be part of a series, but for the first time, it will repeat a design. In honor of the coin’s 20th anniversary, the 2017 American Eagle platinum Proof will use the 1997 “soaring eagle” design created by Thomas D. Rogers Sr. The coin will be priced shortly before its release date, based on current bullion values and the Mint’s pricing grid.

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The second July catalog item will be the Ozark National Scenic Riverways 5-ounce Uncirculated silver coin (17AL). The coin will be the 38th America the Beautiful Uncirculated “puck,” and is priced at $149.95.

Annual Silver Proof Sets Now Available

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On June 7, the Mint opened sales for the 2017 Silver Proof Set (17RH). Priced at $47.95, the sets contain the following Proof coins:

  • Five silver quarters from the America the Beautiful Quarters Program honoring Effigy Mounds National Monument (IA); Frederick Douglass National Historic Site (DC); Ozark National Scenic Riverways (MO); Ellis Island (New Jersey); and George Rogers Clark National Historical Park (IN).
  • One Native American $1 coin with a reverse design featuring a profiled likeness of Sequoyah writing “Sequoyah from Cherokee Nation” in Cherokee syllabary along the border of the design. Inscriptions are UNITED STATES of AMERICA$1, and Sequoyahwritten in English in the field of the design.
  • One Kennedy silver half dollar
  • One Roosevelt silver dime
  • One Jefferson nickel
  • One Lincoln cent

The quarters, half dollar, and dime are struck in 90 percent silver. All coins bear the S mintmark of the United States Mint at San Francisco. Each set includes a certificate of authenticity.

Meanwhile, on June 5, the traditional launch festivities for the latest ATB quarter—Ozark National Scenic Riverways—benefited from beautiful weather and successful promotions: more than 1,800 people, including 700 children, were in attendance.

Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee to Meet June 21

The Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee (CCAC) will hold a public meeting at 9:30 a.m. (ET) on Wednesday, June 21, 2017, at Mint headquarters in Washington, D.C. The CCAC will review and discuss the following design candidates (agenda subject to change as needed):

  • 2019 Native American $1 coin
  • 2020 Native American $1 coin
  • Apollo 11 50th Anniversary Commemorative Coin Program
  • Filipino Veterans of World War II Congressional Gold Medal
  • Office of Strategic Services Congressional Gold Medal

The election of jurors for the Apollo 11 design competition is on the agenda as well. In addition—and perhaps of particular interest to Mint News Blog readers—the CCAC plans to review and discuss a potential 2018 American Liberty 24-karat gold fractional coin.

The meeting is open to interested members of the public and news media. Interested members of the public may dial in to listen to the meeting at (866) 564-9287, access code 62956028. Note: Dial-in access is listen only and phones must be kept on mute to not disturb discussion.   ❑

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  1. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 11,111
    Johnaz 36,000

  2. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 11,111
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500

  3. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 11,111
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000

  4. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 11,111
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500

  5. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 11,111
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000

  6. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 11,111
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900

  7. Erik H says

    “and perhaps of particular interest to Mint News Blog readers—the CCAC plans to review and discuss a potential 2018 American Liberty 24-karat gold fractional coin.”

    Thanks for the info.

    In other news, MCM has Proof 70 silver Krugerrand’s for just under $800. Or you can give me $700 and I’ll send you an ounce of silver and you’ll have an extra $100 to blow on something else.

  8. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900

  9. DBR says

    Guesstimate for Liberty medal sales:
    22,000.

    I thought this medal was HR but I don’t think the description details for this medal mention that it is HR.

    Bummer.

  10. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000

  11. says

    225th Anniversary American Liberty Silver Medal

    https://catalog.usmint.gov/225th-anniversary-american-liberty-silver-medal-17XB.html
    PHILADELPHIA (P)

    $59.95

    This product will be available for sale on June 14, 2017, at 12 noon (ET).

    Celebrating the U.S. Mint’s 225 year anniversary
    A breathtaking rendition of Liberty
    Minted at the U.S. Mint at Philadelphia
    Accompanied with a booklet detailing the evolution of our Nation’s symbol.

    Item Number: 17XB
    Mintage Limit: None
    Product Limit: None
    Household Order Limit: None

    It’s Final Now!

  12. says

    14 June 2017 –

    – the day that 17,000 folks throw $32.95 (plus $4.95 shipping) into the wind

    $59.95 – price of Silver medal
    minus $27.00 – future value of Silver medal
    = $32.95

    Or $37.90 including S&H tossed away

    Disclaimer – I purchase the gold Liberty, this silver medal, is priced beyond my BS threshold 🤑

  13. cagcrisp says

    For those that continue to Link “sales” on Generic graded Old Gold….Be Careful before purchasing…

    I’m seeing More and More “sales” of Old Gold.

    Premiums on Graded Generic Gold continue to Decrease

    When “sales” occur in the volume that I am seeing I’m wondering IF (1) Dealers are thinking Gold will be dropping or (2) Demand is drying up or (3) Supply is hitting the market

    For my part (3) Supply is hitting the market. I was Very aggressive early in 2017 with Old Gold purchases. Currently I haven’t bought much Lately. Why? There is SO MUCH supply hitting the market at this time and as of yet prices have Not come down on the items I am looking for. (At least not the prices that I think are reasonable… considering…)

    I can NOT remember in Years seeing the Supply of desireable Gold that I am Currently seeing. I’m just not going to chase anything.

    Strangely the Gold I am looking at was priced better earlier in the year when the Supply was not there.

    With 10,000 people hitting the age of 65 EVERY day until 2030, I will just bide my time…

  14. Throckmorton says

    Cagcrisp – I am noticing a higher volume of “fresh” collector coins across the spectrum hitting the market. MS 65 ASGs are getting cheap. I also think an uptick of old time collectors are cashing in…….and the beat goes on.

  15. cagcrisp says

    Throckmorton ” I am noticing a higher volume of “fresh” collector coins across the spectrum hitting the market. MS 65 ASGs are getting cheap. I also think an uptick of old time collectors are cashing in…….and the beat goes on.”

    I’ll Agree with both those statements. On a percentage basis for Generic Gold the percentages on the Higher end are coming down more so than on the lower end of the grading scales. I’m Not talking about High grade/High demand coins. I’m talking about Generic Gold.

    As far as Old time collectors cashing in. That’s what I’m talking about with 10,000 people hitting 65 EVERY day. Once we had the Great Recession there were a Ton of older Americans that got out of the stock market and NEVER got back in. Those people are Hurting in retirement because interest rates are So Low on bonds and they didn’t Save/Invest accordingly in their younger years. They will sell whatever they have to continue to live into their retirement years…

  16. HarryB says

    @cag: I have been surprised at the volume of graded “old gold” offered by some of the eBay retailers, I track and occasionally purchase US $20 gold in MS62 or better, and the quantity per offering and number of offerings currently listed is impressive. Most offerings are for coins graded some years ago, so I agree the source of the current inventories appears to be estate liquidations or asset redirection.

  17. cagcrisp says

    Bullion puck sales :

    Effigy 28,700 +500
    Douglass 20,000 (SO)
    Ozark 20,000 +2,800

    Odd that Ozark is Currently at EXactly at 20,000 with All the APs buying in. Maybe Ozark is being capped at 20k like Douglass?

    IF so, you guys fall all over yourself trying to buy them on the secondary market , like you did Douglass…

  18. Throckmorton says

    Cagcrisp – You will see sales under duress just as you describe which I think is a strong influence for the uptick in generic items but you also have a significant amount of collectors that are, to your point again, hitting an age that encourages divestiture. The hobby went through a significant period of growth in the late fifties and sixties and here we are 50 or 60 years later. The mindset of a lot of collectors is to sell off for estate planning purposes. Hence, a lot of nice collector coins are showing up and the supply can’t be controlled because it’s a multitude of collections being sold through all sorts of channels.

    If you have the time an patience, go to coin shows. I believe you will find the older dealers have the best deals.

  19. Tom P. - MA says

    OK, I’ll be a first time guesser only because I can’t believe how far off base some people are (or maybe it’s me). 12,500 sales for the first week. I do not plan to buy one myself.

  20. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500

  21. cagcrisp says

    US Mint:

    Promo Code “DADS”

    Sunday is Father’s Day! Today is your last chance to get two day shipping on gifts for only $4.95 with promo code DADS

  22. earthling says

    Dan Carrs Moonlight Mint just put up a bunch of 2017 New Product early this morning. I’ve ordered a bunch of Clark & Gruber Colorado Gold pieces and a few cool Silver items. These are delightful alternatives to the dreary US Mint trinkets.

    😋😙

  23. earthling says

    I guess I’ll throw in a WAG on Thursday launch of new US MINT product. First week – 3 days hmmm……. I’ll go with 39,093. 🤑

    There’s got to be a few big orders trying to get those ” rare ” early labels. 🙃

  24. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093

  25. cagcrisp says

    The American Liberty Silver Medal goes on sale TOMORROW…

    A rare Wednesday offering…

  26. John Q. Coinage says

    CAG et al., the generic OLD US gold is popping up quit a bit, prices on slabbed St’s are close to what a new Au Eagle, it would seem to be a no brainer,- but maybe people want an Once of AU, not a piece of original coinage. I sold some gold this week, last time I got like $500 more per AGE, sold one @ $1,754 to say I did. As an ‘addic’ I always think gold/silver will always go up & be a good investment…who knows….I have relatives investing in BIT COins & other such cyber/cryto currencies, no thanks…..as most here I prefer physical possession of something of value…..old school I guess!

  27. earthling says

    * Wednesday* Launch ! What is going on with the Mint. Have those Ruskies hacked into the system.?

    I’ll stick with my WAG of 39,093. You never know how crazy those slab merchants are going to get, but I feel like my number is a tad low for an extra day or two.

  28. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100

  29. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321

  30. Blair J. Tobler says

    @ cagcrisp – you may be right about them capping Ozark at 20,000 – since this morning, JM Bullion’s price has gone up about $20.00. APMEX is up as well, and Provident is out of stock.

  31. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000

  32. JohnT58 says

    Blair J. Tobler – According to APMEX, the Ozark’s puck is sold out. Since it is still in pre-sale on dealer sites, it seems strange that the mint would cut off production so early. Then again, we are talking about the mint.

  33. cagcrisp says

    16AN 2016 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – FT MLTR 17,193 + 30
    17AJ 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – EFF MNDS 15,223 + 77
    17AK 2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – DOUGLASS 14,189 +260

  34. cagcrisp says

    Finally…numbers are getting to where I thought they would be…

    17XA 2017 AM LIBERTY 24K GOLD 1 OZ 22,594 + 147

  35. cagcrisp says

    16XA 2016 WALKING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .5OZ 63,614 +67
    16XC 2016 STANDING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .25OZ 89,353 (634)

  36. cagcrisp says

    Boys Town still showing Dismal Gold numbers…

    17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1,336 +6
    17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1,758 +12
    17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 20,095 +329
    17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 9,150 +94
    17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 15,280 +122
    17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 13,691 + 62
    17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 4,836 + 51

    17CH 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER PROOF 61,484 +716
    17CJ 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER UNC 15,886 +74

  37. cagcrisp says

    16EA 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 560,648 + 903

    16EB 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 23,631 + 11
    16EC 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 5,710 +4
    16EF 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 17,270 + 1

    16EG 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER UNC 1 OZ 199,043 +378

  38. cagcrisp says

    17EA 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 271,606 +5,643

    17EB 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 5,361 +206
    17EC 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 1,164 +44
    17ED 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/4 OZ 1,799 +67
    17EE 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/10 OZ 7,793 + 220
    17EF 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 6,979 + 47

    17EH 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD UNC 1 OZ 2,080 + 199

    17EL 2017 AM BUFFALO GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 10,298 +676

  39. cagcrisp says

    At the rate these things sell, it will take Months to get those Reagan sales back…

    JQ1 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 2,676 +1
    JQ2 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 1,878 + 4
    JQ4 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – EISENHWR 2,016 +2
    JQ6 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – KENNEDY 6,696 +4
    JQ8 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 1,791 +1

    16SA 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – NIXON 2,542 +1
    16SB 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – NIXON 1,625 –
    16SC 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – FORD 2,352 +2
    16SD 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – FORD 1,610 –
    16SE 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 3,407 (97)
    16SF 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 1,883 +1

  40. KCSO says

    “According to APMEX, the Ozark’s puck is sold out (at 20,000) –

    the new norm!

  41. cagcrisp says

    NEW sales items…

    17RH 2017 SILVER PROOF SET 174,724

    17ARG 2017 ATB QTR 2-ROLL SET – OZARK (P&D) 6,028
    17ARH 2017 ATB QTR 40-COIN ROLL – OZARK (S) 2,425
    17ARJ 2017 ATB QTR 3-ROLL SET – OZARK (P&D&S) 6,013

    17ABG 2017 ATB QTR 100-COIN BAG – OZARK (P) 1,603
    17ABH 2017 ATB QTR 100-COIN BAG – OZARK (D) 1,611
    17ABJ 2017 ATB QTR 100-COIN BAG – OZARK (S) 2,657

  42. Tom P. - MA says

    … so now everyone will plow into the next 5 oz bullion issue and the mint will also inexplicably raise the mintage to 40,000.

    I missed out on the Ozark (now as low as $119). Not sure if I will cave or wait for the inevitable sale.

  43. cagcrisp says

    Get ready for a Possible ride in precious metals tomorrow.

    Fed Should raise rates tomorrow.

    That in itself is baked in the cake. The Dovish or Hawkish Fed stance for the remainder of 2017 is what Could move the markets…

  44. Dustyroads says

    cag, I don’t see any reason why the Fed will not raise rates tomorrow either, everyone is expecting at least two hikes this year.

    And, why would the mint not makes more Ozark 5 ozers. My bet is on them doing it.

  45. So Krates says

    The expanding debt of the European banks is the main cause for the deluge of $20 gold pieces hitting the US market. Their growing balance sheets are putting liquidity pressures on their reserves.

    18,600 silver medals will be sold tomorrow

  46. Asherspapa says

    Can someone confirm another policy change at the Mint? I could swear yesterday, their FAQ said that orders for in-stock items would be shipped within one to two days with delivery in 1-2 weeks. That’s certainly been what I’ve seen with most of my orders–shipped in two day, received in about a week with standard shipping. But now the Mint says that orders for in-stock items will be shipped with 7 days!!
    Am I wrong? Or did the Mint just make another customer-unfriendly change. What company would get away with shipping in seven days?

  47. Louis Golino says

    Be careful about those claims of sold out pucks. I contacted the mint about the last one (Douglass, I mean Bob the painter with big hair) and was told they are not technically sold out. The dealers may be using this info. to drum up sales.

  48. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600

  49. You Can't See Me says

    My guess is 13,111.

    I am excited that the Boy’s Town uncirculated dollar sales are trending below the 96 Olympic wheelchair dollar. I think we will see a few record lows this year for commems.

  50. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111

  51. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111
    Xena 14,525

  52. MarkInFlorida says

    A prominent dealer at the January F.U.N. show also told me lots of old us gold ($20s) are coming back from Europe and premiums were dropping. He said it might be politics, but SK is probably more right.

  53. gatortreke says

    One month ago, JM Bullion had a special on random year ASG $20, graded MS-63 by either PCGS or NGC for $1315. There was practically no spread between this “old gold” and a modern AGE so figured it was a no brainer to purchase it over a current year AGE or AGB so that is what I did so. I received a 1908 No Motto PCGS MS-63 in a newer slab.

    I just checked and see the price I paid during this special is less than anything comparable at the major bullion sites except an ungraded polished or cleaned double eagle. Whatever the reason, I figured the special was too good to ignore.

    Re: the Liberty medal, I’m going with 9999.

  54. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111
    Xena 14,525
    gatortreke 9,999

  55. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111
    Xena 14,525
    gatortreke 9,999
    Mike the Greek 22,607

  56. asherspapa says

    If the Mint had put a reasonable HHL on the ASL medal AND a halfway reasonable price on it, the countdown to the frenzy would be starting now.
    If anyone from the Mint ever reads their customer comments here, perhaps they’ll rethink future ASL releases (including the forthcoming set of 4). Maybe they hope to learn something with the unlimited mintage and high price, but perhaps they could have learning more if they’d established an introductory price, like they do for commemoratives–something like $47.95 might have yielded useful information.
    Alas…

  57. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111
    Xena 14,525
    gatortreke 9,999
    Mike the Greek 22,607
    paddy 15,535

  58. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:

    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111
    Xena 14,525
    gatortreke 9,999
    Mike the Greek 22,607
    paddy 15,535
    Mark Rex 10,000

  59. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:
    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111
    Xena 14,525
    gatortreke 9,999
    Mike the Greek 22,607
    paddy 15,535
    Mark Rex 10,000
    Tinto 18,888

  60. earthling says

    Are they gone Yet? I know there’s an unlimited item mintage, no HHL, and no reasonable issue price, but is there a very small initial Stockpile? If there was a very fast “item not available” the hype generated might serve to fuel a feeding frenzy . 😨

    There could be enough artificial Illogical demand to drive this baby to a 500,000 mintage. 💀

  61. KEITHSTER says

    Are they sold out yet? Oh I mean will they ever with no edge letters or purity or weight ! So it flies on design alone the only thing going for it is the high price maybe that is what the mint is counting on way to go mint? Good Luck To Us All “>”>”>

  62. fmtransmitter says

    MarkInFlorida says
    JUNE 13, 2017 AT 11:11 PM

    A prominent dealer at the January F.U.N. show also told me lots of old us gold ($20s) are coming back from Europe and premiums were dropping. He said it might be politics, but SK is probably more right.

    I disagree: It is cryptocurrency. It is the future of currency hands down and IMHO, every single one of you should at the very least, own some Ether to fuel this leveling of the playing field and put the power back into the people’s hands instead of the governments and the Fed and Banks….Get in NOW
    I like Gemini for buy and hold for Bit and Ether and Bittrex for Alt Coins

  63. fmtransmitter says

    John Q. Coinage says
    JUNE 13, 2017 AT 1:52 PM

    CAG et al., the generic OLD US gold is popping up quit a bit, prices on slabbed St’s are close to what a new Au Eagle, it would seem to be a no brainer,- but maybe people want an Once of AU, not a piece of original coinage. I sold some gold this week, last time I got like $500 more per AGE, sold one @ $1,754 to say I did. As an ‘addic’ I always think gold/silver will always go up & be a good investment…who knows….I have relatives investing in BIT COins & other such cyber/cryto currencies, no thanks…..as most here I prefer physical possession of something of value…..old school I guess!

    100% disagree, and this has ALL I have been studying for months!

  64. fmtransmitter says

    earthling says
    JUNE 13, 2017 AT 12:55 PM

    Dan Carrs Moonlight Mint just put up a bunch of 2017 New Product early this morning. I’ve ordered a bunch of Clark & Gruber Colorado Gold pieces and a few cool Silver items. These are delightful alternatives to the dreary US Mint trinkets.

    Congrats, post a link if you can to the new offerings or actual photos of your catch…

  65. Sith says

    @fmtransmitter – So your saying Europeans (banks?), are selling gold and buying cryptocurrency?

  66. John Q. Coinage says

    fm not sure what you disagree with “all”.. that gold was $500 more a few years ago……anyway several posters confirm buying $20 slabbed gold for close to price of new Eagles, I don’t know squat about the cyber coins except people tout them….I have spoken w/people who know & they can still be created (MINED….bit coin$) & thereby dilute the value. They are not limited in nature, those in the KNOW can make them as far as I know, not easy, byut not impossible … so, Kind of like shares of stocks, a value, only what people put on it & essentially a piece of paper> or an electronic memory…cyber currency. Seems akin to the old Pyramid those @ the base do fine. I prefer physical assets, land, precious metals, water, guns, food……having my assets in cyber form or a cloud does not do much for me….as many people are asking me about putting $ into these cyber currencies it would appear to be “late”

  67. Scott says

    Latest sales numbers show the Proof Gold Eagle 1 ounce outselling the PC Anniversary coin by almost 60 units in the past week. I predict the anniversary coin to be “dead in the water” at 25,000 units.

  68. earthling says

    As my late Dad would say, Phooey on Crytocurrencies. I think I’ll start buying cases of Bush’s Baked Beans and maybe some Top Ramen and maybe cases of Green Beans. Crytocurrencies truly are ALL like ether. Food you can actually eat. Not so any currency or PM.

  69. isp_stuff says

    @John Q. Coinage

    Just a thought,
    another dealer had 48 rolls and some additional singles last night, I bought a tube of 10.
    went back this morning and they were listed as sold out. Price last night was $105.50 per coin on these Ozarks 5oz. ATB.

    Think they became a flipper of goods?

    oh and my guess for 2017 silver liberty = 21250

  70. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimate for Launch Week for the American Liberty Silver Medal:
    KCSO 17,000
    cagcrisp 20,157
    Tom 20,158
    John Q. Coinage 11,300
    Alex in MA 27,000
    Throckmorton 14,150
    Joe M. 32,345
    Johnaz 36,000
    Montana John 16,470
    Dustyroads 27,500
    Stipey 22,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA 24,000
    Asherspapa 18,500
    Karl Meyer 18,000
    Barry 15,500
    Mattarch 9,900
    Don 36,000
    CF 22,500
    DBR 22,000
    Tom P. -MA 12,500
    earthling 39,093
    Zephin 21,100
    BigC 9,321
    Sith 7,000
    So Krates 18,600
    You Can’t See Me 13,111
    Xena 14,525
    gatortreke 9,999
    Mike the Greek 22,607
    paddy 15,535
    Mark Rex 10,000
    Tinto 18,888
    isp_stuff 21,250

  71. MarkInFlorida says

    Hey, where’s the frenzy of people posting their order numbers and complaining how hard it was to get through the order process. Did anyone buy one? I’m not buying this ugly medal and I’m not buying crypto currencies that can disappear to a hacker or a power outage. I was gold and silver I can hold in my hand. And stack in nice neat piles!

  72. cagcrisp says

    So Far…

    Top to Bottom…

    $22 Move in Gold prices because of inflation numbers and Yellen Q&A…

    Yellen…Still answering questions…

  73. Dustyroads says

    Three plus hours since the last post, maybe I should lower my guesstimate….

    And correct me if I’m wrong, but there have been 0 comments having to do with the Pt release.

    Not to mention that MNB didn’t even cover the release of the much anticipated medal. All this is beginning to feel like a long holding pattern.

  74. sharks2th says

    This warning from the Texas AG in Coin World concerning investments in precious metal coins looks like it is beginning to apply to Mint products like the medals:

    “Paxton’s advisory cautions consumers and investors: “If coins you bought as an investment would have to double or triple in value before any gain could be realized, you may have been a victim of fraud.””

  75. sharks2th says

    @Dusty – There was some discussion of the upcoming APE Proof in first 100 comments in the previous article.

  76. earthling says

    Buying and selling US Mint Coins to whomever used to buy and sell them …. sort of ceased to be a lively topic after the economic collapse of 2008. My Auto Plant in Delaware shut down operations in December 2008. As an Electrician, I was able to hang on to the end of January 2009 and then , I too took a final walk out the gates. I had a transfer application in and after a couple months was instructed to report to my current location in Michigan. Cool , I thought to myself.

    My report date was May 11, 2009. Before that date, the Corporation entered Bankruptcy . Oops! All transfer deals were off!

    After a few weeks.. or was it a few months… the Corporation emerged like a Phoenix… reborn…. reinvented even. I soon got a new report date of June 30, 2009.

    The rest is history as they say. Well it ain’t over till it’s over… and it’s started all over again. Currently my Plant is shutting down and relocating 8 miles to the north. What happens to everyone currently building our product is unknown. Some will follow the vehicle to the future location. Some will stay behind and help build new future products. But first we need to reconfigure/rebuild this old plant. This old girls been around since about 1928…. rebuilding could be a really involved project.

    Looks like my futures up in the air again. Only way to take it is one day at a time… at least after about November. Until then it’s balls to the wall building Trucks. Seven and 12’s … if I wanted them. But… I don’t want them. A body .. and mind can only do it for so long – then it needs a rest. 😥

  77. Gary says

    The platinum proof 2017 eagle is just a big “so what!” with the recycling the original 1997 reverse design. Absolutely no effort undertaken by the U.S. Mint. Not interested in it.

  78. KC&SO says

    Well put Gary,

    I suspect the majority of us ‘former’ APE collectors feel the same.

    I’ll buy this year’s APE, as it’ll serve as my ceremonial last.

    With the designs of 2018 thru 2020, news lows will abound, and no one will care.

  79. KC&SO says

    So, who all threw down 60 bucks on this much anticipated medal?

    8-9 years reading this blog and I believe this is the first time, EVER, there’s never been a ‘I bought it’ post

    I’m going to buy one, in 2018.., for $27.

    In 2018, if not sooner, I’ll buy a few of those silver Krugs for $27 too

  80. KC&SO says

    Up on the docket next.., the much anticipated two offerings we know nothing about –

    – The 225th Unc Set – clad or PM? Prob clad

    – Fractional Buffs – 4 coins sets, anything special, or just individuals???

    Then it’s a wrap, Happy Collecting!

  81. earthling says

    I might consider buying a 2017 Silver Medal…….. one day. I don’t like the design at all so it would be at 20% or more … under spot. If I never get one … guess every once in a while , I’ll take my saved money and spent it at a good Pizza place ! 😛

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