Newly Introduced: The “American Innovation $1 Coin Act”

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On Wednesday, September 14, Representative James A. Himes introduced H.R. 6025, known as the “American Innovation $1 Coin Act.”

If adopted, the act would authorize $1 numismatic coins whose designs recognize both American innovation in general and “significant innovation and pioneering efforts of [American] individuals or groups.” One coin would be released for each of the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories, in alphabetical order.

The program, if approved, could commence as early as January 1, 2017, as determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, who would also determine the appropriate quantities of Uncirculated and Proof strikes.

Per the language of H.R. 6025, if “it is not feasible and cost-effective to mint and issue American Innovation $1 coins beginning in 2017, the Secretary may mint and issue $1 coins bearing the designs of such Presidential $1 . . . that the Secretary determines to be appropriate.” Native American $1 coins would continue to be produced concurrently, regardless.

The act specifies the following design elements:

  • Obverse—a design symbolic of Liberty, and the inscription “In God We Trust.”
  • Reverse—for each state/district/territory, an image or images of a significant innovation, an innovator or pioneer, or a group of innovators or pioneers; plus the name of the state/district/territory, the denomination, and “United States of America.”
  • Edge—the year of minting or issuance and the inscription “E Pluribus Unum.”

Specific designs would be chosen by the Secretary after consultation with the chief executive of each entity and the Commission of Fine Arts, and review by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.

The bill was referred to the House Committee on Financial Services.



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  1. Mr. Kairu says

    Hmm… more coins to collect for my US type sets. I am not sure what others will say, but I enjoy finding these, the ATBs, States, Presidential dollars, etc. in change to try and put together a circulation set (along with my albums of proofs/silver proofs).

  2. Hidalgo says

    I would not hold my breath to see if this bill will pass both houses of the Senate and then, signed by the President. But with a new administration in place during January 2017, stranger things can happen!

  3. Jeff says

    This is the best our leaders can come up with. Let’s get rid of this incompotance of our leaders. No thought let’s .just do another 50 $1 coins lol. As well who sets prices for products. Who pays 150% over spot for a proof ASE
    All you are doing is promoting over inflated coinage the mint sells. BOYCOTT THE MINT AND THERE SALES PLATFORM GET OFF THE HOPIUM I HAVE .

  4. KCSO says

    How ironic, this program, if approved, could commence as early as January 1, 2017,
    Ha, ….the same date as my numismatic Exit Strategy commences.., great timing Himes!

    And If that 2019 Moon Landing bill doesn’t pass the Senate.., then the numismatic recess will continue until the gold 2021 Peace Tribute Trinket is available.., think of all the $ saved…

    Though, if the mint were to pull a rabbit out of the hat in celebration of their 225th next year in the form of a 1792 Flowing Hair gold Tribute Trinket.., well I might be tempted to reconsider

  5. KCSO says

    The legislation seeks to authorize the American Innovation dollar coins for a 14-year period, four per year, beginning in 2017 or as soon as economically feasible.

    14 Years…, Wow!

  6. earthling says

    I’ve never been a big fan of stacking plain jane bullion SAE’s but its looking like a good alternative to Rolls and Bags of yet another string of those goldoid dollaroid Coins.

    Those sham artists in DC have zero respect for us coinaholics.

  7. earthling says

    I got the subject for Michigan. The guy responsible for 5 Hour Energy is from Michigan. I hear he’s worth several $Billion. Now that’s something appropriate for a Goldoid Dollaroid.

  8. KCSO says

    “Specific designs would be chosen by the Secretary after consultation with the chief executive of each entity and the Commission of Fine Arts, and review by the Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.”

    I’m sorry, I apologize.., I just can’t stop from laughing.. So those folks that gave us ‘dainty’ sword welding hands (come on, sing it to the tune of “Y-M-C-A”) and Animal Crackers are going to be integral to the design selection of pioneers or group of pioneers???

    LMAO.., yeah, good luck with that. Jeff, I bet you a gold Tribute Trinket that’s 155% over spot, that I beat you to the Exit Door. How fast can you run, boy?
    😝

  9. cagcrisp says

    @KCSO, “Though, if the mint were to pull a rabbit out of the hat in celebration of their 225th next year in the form of a 1792 Flowing Hair gold Tribute Trinket.., well I might be tempted to reconsider”

    1. You Ain’t going to be a happy camper
    2. However, you will be a richer one
    3. Wait and SEE

  10. StackerForLife says

    Never been a fan of the so-called gold dollar coins. Their color only looks good when they are brand new. Once circulated, they start turning an unattractive shade of brown. Plus the portraits on the presidential dollars, in many cases, are not well done. I was actually glad that 2016 was going to be the last year of the presidential dollars so I wouldn’t have to see them in my proof sets anymore. I have to admit that this latest idea about honoring American innovations is an interesting one, but if Congress wants to make more one dollar coins, they should do it right this time. No more of these small, unattractive brass clad coins.

  11. cagcrisp says

    Love it. Love it. Love it.

    I had hoped that there would be a 1 oz. Gold 1792 replica and IF so I would HAVE to purchase. NOW…with seeing the 225 anniversary edge lettering on the 2017 Gold HR coin, that hope has dissipated.

    The Mint will come out with something “cheaper” for the 225 anniversary but it Appears to me that the 2017 HR Gold is the “franchise player” and they don’t want any Gold competition (Rightly so).

    Love it. Love it . Love it…

  12. says

    I would love to see a 1792 High Relief replica…that would be nice.

    But that coin should not be like the proposed 2017 American Liberty design.

  13. Hidalgo says

    Remember that the US Mint knows that it can generate revenue by creating new designs and offering a plethora of related products. Who knows – perhaps with the introduction of each dollar design, there could be a 5 ounce palladium coin associated with it…..!

  14. gary says

    The greatest innovation would be to actually get the dollar coins to actually CIRCULATE and SAVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS. Since the dollar coins do not circulate what sense does it make to do another long-winded series that most of the public will ever see let alone appreciate.

  15. Asherspapa says

    This bill is nothing short of ridiculous unless, as others have noted, they replace the dollar bill. The Presidential series was bad enough, and that was a meaningful topic. This series is far more appropriate for stamps (and has been done before, although not by state). At least the State Quarters and ATB were circulating coins. With the few uses of dollar coins in this country (change at P.O. vending machines), the Sacajawea/Native American coins (in 3-4 varieties/year) are more than enough.
    This sounds like a good idea for the Franklin Mint, but not the U.S. Mint!

  16. So Krates says

    If they wanted to really go full PC and capture the modern zeitgeist, they should have her hands in the air.

  17. says

    Also, as I mentioned on the last thread, it’s strange how when the Mint did a 30 day Mint to demand 2 coin silver eagle set in 2012, 2013….with the exclusive coins they had…and in a nice wood box, the demand/saturation point was around 225,000.
    This year’s 30th anniversary coin will sell 500-750,000 coins. And really will sell PR70’s for $60 next year.

    I think as cagcrisp mentioned, the sleeper may be the burnished version.

    It’s too bad the Mint couldn’t of released the regular proof and unc earlier in the year AND then released a special 30th anniversary set in a two coin set in that wood display box with the edge lettered proof and burnished version in a limited set of around 250,000.

    But what they of done for the 30th Anniversary is nothing special.

    I would also liked to see a 3 coin gold 30ith anniversary set…a proof, a reverse proof and an enhanced gold eagle set with a 20,000/HHL2 set

    Maybe it’s just me, but I take pride in owning the Silver eagle 20ith and 25th anniversary set, the platinum 10th anniversary set (which if you don’t remember had a mintage limit of 30,000, but sold under 20,000 sets….but I love the only reverse proof platinum eagle.

    And nothing has been done for the Gold Buffalo 20th anniversary.

    As if you didn’t know, I’m disappointed in the mints lack of making these anniversaries something special.

    They have one last chance this year to make a limited edition, yet fair to those who want one, is the WLH dollar gold coins. The Mint should realize they were too liberal in the HHL’S for the dime, but too restrictive with the SLQ. It will probably not reach 60,000 in sells…even if they remove the HH limit, again, as cagcrisp has said…that ship has seller.

    Regardless of what the mintage limit may be, a HHL of one will be a death sentence….yet I will buy one, because I love the coin

    I think a mintage limit of 75,000 and a HH LIMIT of 3 would be appropriat

    Oh well, I think I’ll go back to playing my PC video games lime Tomb Raiders, Far Cry 3, 4,
    Deus..Ex..Mandkind Dividded ,Masss Effect series, Bioshock 1, 2 and Infinite, Half Life series, etc, and many more.
    Anyway, I like to have some fun too….as it is a release from all the political battles I watch each day.

  18. Sith says

    The state quarters can be obtained in silver, sorry to all you true collectors, but I’m not into clad coins. As it is I’m all state quartered out..

    @Jeff – I’m with you….”Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest!”

  19. Jerry Diekmann says

    Oh, good Lord! Another series of non-circulating dollars? That being said, it is a decent concept, but why not put it on a circulating coin? The only such coin with large enough palette would be the quarter, and it is tied up until sometime in 1921 after the Tuskegee Airmen quarter, the last in the ATB series, is issued. And that series may be followed by an ATB #2 series, although I think it should be restricted and possibly shortened, to include only national parks and national monuments that have not yet been minted on any of the Statehood or ATB quarters. Some states lie California, Utah, and Colorado would have multiple strikes and some like Delaware, Vermont, and New Hampshire, would have none. It’s not being discriminatory, the western states are simply bigger and have more varied scenery and more national parks and monuments. The dollar coin needs to come to an end. Alternatively, consider this concept for the half dollar, and start it in 2018, after one last hurrah for JFK celebrating the centenary of his birth in 2017. Finally, the manganese brass is an ugly color and it would not portray the coins nearly as well if they were struck in clad or silver, or even solver clad.

  20. Jim_D says

    I agree with the others who say that we get rid of the dollar bill first and then talk about new $1 coins. Better yet, release the billion presidential dollars and then maybe consider this innovation malarky on a $2 coin. We would need a good name for it, like the Canadian Toonie.

  21. David says

    This legislation makes no sense. Why produce $1 coins that won’t be circulated? Why produce them if the bulk will be sitting in government vaults? How does this make any sense? IMO the Prez dollar program was a massive blunder. Can these people be so blind they cannot see that?

  22. earthling says

    Didn’t DC Mayor Barry get nabbed for smoking Crak? I’m inclined to believe lots of people around DC partake of the Crak Roc. That would certainly explain the BS that happens there on a massive scale.

  23. a Bob says

    The ongoing Native American dollar program is sufficient.
    The 2017 high relief gold looks much nicer than the drawing. Looking forward to that now. Start saving my pennies.

  24. Dave SW FL says

    Wouldn’t it have been great if they had done the Pres & NP coins on the half dollar canvas? The Ntl Pks would have been especially awesome!

    Time to end the ugly manganese dollars. They age poorly. Aluminum would have been a better choice.

    Oh, and for the drug dealers, you could eliminate ALL paper money an make the biggest denomination coin a $20 bimetallic . Imagine trying to do a million dollar drug deal in coin! Drug dealers would be buying old Brinks trucks?

  25. Buzz Killington says

    @Dave SWFL —

    You will freak out the anti-cash-free folks with that suggestion. I think an easier route to putting street level drug dealers out of business would be to legalize drugs.

  26. Tinto says

    I guess one reason for continuing the $1 might be that the supplier(s) of the blanks (or whatever it is called) reacted to the fact that their market has basically evaporated after the Reagan $1 and thus complained to their Congressional reps … JMO

    Thank goodness I am basically only in for NA $1 C&C sets and whatever RP or EU offering that would help me maintain a type sets after this year. And of course the Moon Landing commemorative … if it ever gets approved …

  27. Xena says

    Go Eagles – the football kind!

    Dusty – I am also still in shipping label created limbo (purgatory?). I like the 2013 box idea for the ASE and medal – will look into that.

    KSCO – I just received the 2011 set – finally found a good price on ebay at the same time I had a 10% bonus and found someone who DIDN’T have it listed as bullion. I need to have the original set out for a while, but might rotate your idea through the big box at some point.

  28. Jerry Diekmann says

    David – the Mint is just following its history of minting dollars that no one uses and just storing them for years in the treasury vaults. This is what they did with the Morgan dollars until they pulled out and sold over 272 million of tem to Great Britain during WW I, and they melted them for commonwealth coinge. , And that is why so many of them with high mintages are scarce or rare today – they all went into the melting pot, or at least most of them.

    The Mint never seems to learn. Someday wiser people in Congress will legislate the dollar bill out of existence, and the Mint will have a ready supply of Presidential, Sacagawea, and Native American dollars to pull out from the vaults and put into circulation. Maybe they know something the rest of us don’t know, but I doubt it.

  29. Dave SW FL says

    Buzz,
    Legalization does not reduce abuse and only causes underground to make their stuff even more unsafe to compete on price. We’re going to pot here, and crack, and heroin, and…..

    Just give me my classic coin fix. With a modern Lady Liberty chaser. Still want to see that million dollar cash transaction done in coin. Still think it would put a huge dent in their operations. Down with the BEP.

  30. So Krates says

    Buzz – How dare you propose a solution that might work? Let’s stick to the successful, decades old War on Drugs until everyone’s in jail. You’re talking to a teetotaler who would impose his biblical idea of the pursuit of happiness on you and happily have you punished for any number of victimless “crimes” that he thinks his old book tells him are “wrong”. Common sense and the Constitution be damned!

    Bet Dave SW FL has the reverse of the Nancy coin displayed somewhere prominent.

    “Mind Your Business” – Continental Currency/Fugio Coppers motto (suggested by B. Franklin)

  31. KCSO says

    MT, product press releases are published 7 days out prior to launch, therefore come 4 October, we should have a definitive on that ASE; in addition to the PS photo being included on the following Weds/Thurs.

  32. Erik H says

    I’m not interested in another dollar coin program.

    A few months back I said that the 2017 HR Liberty would look better once coined. Raised edge lettering will be cool (nothing new compared to some European coins). However, I really don’t like the over powering crown of stars, I’m in for one.

  33. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimates for Mintage and HHL for the Walking Liberty Half

    earthling 200,000/1
    Mike in NY 75,000/1
    KCSO 70,000/1
    cagcrisp 100,000/5
    MT 75,000/2
    Yes, But…You Can’t Take It With You 50,000/1
    NcCoinCollector 75,000/1
    Louis 50,000/1
    longarm 100,000/1
    Tony 50,000/1
    Karl Meyer 65,000/1
    Paddy 70,000/1
    Tinto 55,000/2
    Gary not Dave 25,000/1
    Steve 60,000/1
    Big L 75,000/1
    Peter 75,000/2
    HarryB 75,000/2
    DBR 75,000/1
    zephin 55,000/1
    Old Big Bird 50,000/1
    baldwin 75,000/2
    Wilycoyote 50,000/1
    Mark Rex 40,000/1
    Montana John 125,000/2
    dave 45,000/1
    Mr. Kairu 60,000/2
    a Bob 80,000/1
    Big C 65,000/2
    Don 50,000/2
    ClevelandRocks 75,000/1
    Imaginary 65,000/1
    Jerry Diekmann 75,000/1
    MikeinPA 100,000/3
    smalltimecollector 45,000/1
    CF 60,000/2
    Joe M. 75,000/1
    Ikaika 65,000/1
    Ron 75,000/2
    Throckmorton 50,000/1

  34. MT says

    @KCSO — Thanks. The reveal will be exciting. Hoping we’re not disappointed. I’m curious about your thoughts on the prospects going forward for this year’s Mar 24 releases. Are we chasing lower lows each year or will we have a low that lasts for some time? I like the design but price appreciation would be plus.

  35. Old Big Bird says

    Oh boy another $1 con set over the next 12 to 14 years. Not sure I will start collecting these since I might end up dead before I could end up getting the full set in rolls. Just a thought

  36. Old Big Bird says

    I might have missed something on an older blog, has another heard anything about the quantity of HHL on the
    Oct 11th release of the Reagan C&C ?

  37. Fmtransmitter says

    Anyone in and or arpund Tenn. Please read this frm Doug amd the numismatic crime center…
    http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?m=1102927891983&ca=c546668f-5cdb-4edb-b1be-9d68bfb7278c
    He works tirelessly to help victims of theft at shows and homes cars etc. All Pawn Shop owners should subscribe to his newletter as he posts very specific coins and grades to help. These thieves are not going into walmart with a slabbed coin to buy a tv. Theu need cash. We all shoild be unsubscribing to his newsletter.

  38. cagcrisp says

    @Old Big Bird, “I might have missed something on an older blog, has another heard anything about the quantity of HHL on the Oct 11th release of the Reagan C&C ?”

    150,000/1

  39. says

    Oh boy, I could go in many different directions on that one. Actually this spring I assembled a detailed data sheet to identify trends and the results were quite interesting though not promising. I posted some of the findings here though not sure if I could find it now. Here’s a general observation, I see more of the post ’82 material up for auction from those that acquired through estate sales or inheritance (and openly they admit they don’t know the worth), and that is in part why we’ve seen some of the heavy hitters continue to atrophy. I just don’t see a sustained market and the recent values support that observation. Looking forward, as I mentioned previously, ’17 will have a big looser, and ’18 is questionable. If I don’t rope the moon thereafter then what’s left? To hell with professional sports and their players disrespect to the national anthem, they can get back on the Mayflower from where ever they came from, that one will sink too. So the short answer is, no, I really don’t. Someone out here comments on old gold from time to time, well I kinda bought into that ideology. After my date with a walker in December, that’s where my focus is headed, much of what I like will be having a centennial birthday over the next 5 years and think that’s rather cool. Good luck!

  40. MT says

    Those recent tends are concerning and I see no signs of or reasons for a reversal. Chasing lows is a losing game, with some rare exceptions. Yes, BT and BCA are both losers, so rope the moon if there’s cooperation from our representatives and look ahead to 2021. And how about an Ike dollar 50th anniversary as well? Maybe also a RP set in 2018. I haven’t heard anything about that possibility in a while, however. Thanks!

  41. cagcrisp says

    Something has to Give…

    There was a 15 hour period yesterday that not a Single Gold SLQ was Sold in OGP. Not BIN . Not auction. Nothing.

    There was 28 “newly listed” OGP offerings yesterday for the SLQ.

    Supply/Demand.

    Supply keeps hitting the market and yet at THESE prices there seems to be little interest with the Mint looking at an unending supply at $485.00.

    There are Currently 12 auctions with a minimum number of bids at “1” . 1 @ $587.95 (what was he/she thinking?) , 1 @ $542.30 with the high bid placed 2 days ago, 1 @ $540.00 with high bid placed 5 days ago and 1 @ $540.00 with high bid placed 6 days ago.

    I don’t like to just look at the bids, I like to look at who is placing the bids and the date the bids were placed…

  42. Eddie says

    It would be very nice to have a .999 silver HR Ike dollar. Since most all of the real Ike’s look like play money more or less.

  43. Eddie says

    Why would you buy a SLQ from the bay when you can still get one from the mint?
    Only when the mint stops selling them will the bay have any real sales.

  44. cagcrisp says

    @Eddie, A lot of people don’t buy directly from the Mint. They buy from local dealers or on the bay. Some only have paypal accounts and the Mint as yet doesn’t accept paypal. With a HHL of 1 the dealers were limited to what they chose to participate in and some people that normally would have bought from a dealer have choosen to purchase from the bay.

    Actually for a product that is still actively Sold by the Mint the bay sales have held up rather well, however, there is just a limited number of people that do what I have just alluded to…

  45. Old Big Bird says

    cagcrisp says

    Thanks you for the sad news of 150,00 with HHL =1 for the Reagan CC
    Looks as if I will have to buy the other 2 sets (for grandsons) I need on Ebay or wait to see if the release the HHL

  46. MT says

    @Louis — Thanks. Now lets see if that’s too late to significantly boost sales and if the mintage limit will also be adjusted.

  47. Tinto says

    @Louis

    Thanks for that info. I guess the Mint wants to make sure they get as much income booked for their current fiscal year ending Sept.. 30. and at the same time satisfy the needs of the big boy customers. And there will be enough time for the big boys to still get “First Strikes” from PCGS (Oct 9) and other TPG’s ……

  48. earthling says

    This is one Mint Customer who is overjoyed to hear about the lifting of the HHL on the Gold SLQ’s. I figure in times of economic crisis a Gold Quarter might buy me a needed Candy Bar or maybe an old Big Mac someone forgot they even had.

    Yeah a financial storehouse of value. I’ll be wanting at least 100 Coins. No kidding I want 100 Coins. Now if they’ll just work out a credit arrangement for me, we can sail right through this. I was thinking maybe $10/week for however long it takes.

  49. cagcrisp says

    Reported by CW that first day sales of the Proof ASE were 262,816 from 80,883 individual customers. That would leave 59,501 for the remainder of the week.

    262,816/80,883= 3.25 per customer…

  50. Ikaika says

    @ Louis

    Thanks for the info. I think the mint missed the boat on this one. Received my SLQ and looks great. Might had bought 2 on opening day. Will not buy again.

  51. Louis says

    I don’t they really know the actual number of customers. That would take a lot of work and is not something normally released. They must have the total number of orders and total number of coins ordered and divided one by the other.

  52. achmed says

    with a HHL of two for the SLQ I would have bought two coins. But now I am not going to buy another coin as I have to pay 18.08 dollars for shipping to Germany. And to be honest 485 plus 2,95 plus 17,90 plus 1% on all together for using a creditcard is a lot of money for 0,25 ounces of gold. I think this coin will not sell out. A householdlimit of two for the WLH should be implemented, mintage limit 100000.

  53. Jeff says

    My guess it won’t sell another 5k, it’s a pathetic rendition bullion gold at best , yes you get a handful of dumb $ss who over pay on the bay, but what’s the diffence from you bring this over priced trinket from the mint i’ll tell you it’s the same, in general it’s toast from here on out.

  54. Ron says

    I use to buy the $1 coins from the mint when you could get them at cost and the US Mint paid for the shipping. I would spend them just to spread them around, but someone had to brag how he was getting the mint to pay for his flights. Don’t get me wrong I don’t mind if you can figure out a way to work the system to your advantage, then to brag about it to every news organization or blog, well to me that just isn’t very smart.

  55. earthling says

    If I didnt have to worry about getting robbed, I’d returd my SLQ. But I’ll just keep it. Dont feel like gambling with the ghetto crowd down in Memphisto.

    Looks like the next thing from the Mint I’m looking forward to is the Apollo Commemorative. After that , whatever happens with the 1921 Peace $1 event. If Classics keep dropping maybe I’ll just snag an MS66 Real Silver $1 one day. Theres an MS66+ in one Dealers Inventory now, but at that level ( $12,500.00), I’d need to be seeing the Coin before ordering.

  56. dave says

    this is a definite pass unless they decide to make a 5 oz gold version of every year, since it cant be or wont be another 5 oz silver ATB why not make 5 oz gold coins yea yea lets do it

  57. earthling says

    These Are The 10 Most Ghetto Places In Tennessee

    https://www.roadsnacks.net/these-are-the-10-most-ghetto-places-in-tennessee

    No wonder I got robbed. The place really is a ghetto.

    “There are pockets of Memphis which are some of the nicest areas in the state. And there are areas of Memphis which are the most ghetto in the entire south. Add it all up and what you have, is generally, a pretty ghetto place overall.

    Had certain areas of Memphis been measured individually, they would have ranked atop this list on their own. Memphis saw 124 murders two years ago, and residents have a shocking 1 in 18 chance of being the victim of a property crime each year they’re within city limits.”

  58. Dean says

    I predict H.R. 6025 will die. My argument: Not feasible and not cost-effective. But I was totally off-base with the SLQ so who knows.

    Regarding guesses, here’s mine for the Walking Liberty Half mintage and HHL: 75,000/2

  59. So Krates says

    The only Senator with real balls is female. Watch Senator Warren take the Wells Fargo CEO to the woodshed. She called him gutless and told his sorry ass to resign. I’m no Dem but we need more like her to straighten those leeches out. Threat of jail time for senior execs is needed. Go Pocahontas!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJhkX74D10M

  60. cagcrisp says

    Guesstimates for Mintage and HHL for the Walking Liberty Half

    earthling 200,000/1
    Mike in NY 75,000/1
    KCSO 70,000/1
    cagcrisp 100,000/5
    MT 75,000/2
    Yes, But…You Can’t Take It With You 50,000/1
    NcCoinCollector 75,000/1
    Louis 50,000/1
    longarm 100,000/1
    Tony 50,000/1
    Karl Meyer 65,000/1
    Paddy 70,000/1
    Tinto 55,000/2
    Gary not Dave 25,000/1
    Steve 60,000/1
    Big L 75,000/1
    Peter 75,000/2
    HarryB 75,000/2
    DBR 75,000/1
    zephin 55,000/1
    Old Big Bird 50,000/1
    baldwin 75,000/2
    Wilycoyote 50,000/1
    Mark Rex 40,000/1
    Montana John 125,000/2
    dave 45,000/1
    Mr. Kairu 60,000/2
    a Bob 80,000/1
    Big C 65,000/2
    Don 50,000/2
    ClevelandRocks 75,000/1
    Imaginary 65,000/1
    Jerry Diekmann 75,000/1
    MikeinPA 100,000/3
    smalltimecollector 45,000/1
    CF 60,000/2
    Joe M. 75,000/1
    Ikaika 65,000/1
    Ron 75,000/2
    Throckmorton 50,000/1
    achmed 100,000/2
    Dean 75,000/2

  61. mgm says

    So Krares,

    ACTUALLY SHE DOES HAVE BALLS, REALLY.

    So Krates says
    SEPTEMBER 20, 2016 AT 8:28 PM

    The only Senator with real balls is female. Watch Senator Warren take the Wells Fargo CEO to the woodshed. She called him gutless and told his sorry ass to resign. I’m no Dem but we need more like her to straighten those leeches out. Threat of jail time for senior execs is needed. Go Pocahontas!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJhkX74D10M

  62. mgm says

    Anyone know the weight of this coin? i.e. 1/10 or 1/4?

    2012 Isle of Man Diamond Jubilee World’s First Cut-Diamond Shaped Gold Coin

  63. So Krates says

    mgm – You may be right (I doubt it though) and I couldn’t care less. I can tell by her haircut (or lack thereof) she puts substance over style.

  64. So Krates says

    mgm – I believe it’s 1/10 oz Actual Gold Weight with a 2.5 point diamond. Check with Pobjoy Mint to verify

  65. mgm says

    So Krates,

    Your posts here in the form and your knowledge of coins are very helpful, thank you. Now all I have to do is move you to the Right and you’ll be perfect😃.

    Again thanks for letting me know…
    mgm

  66. Sith says

    @Jeff

    Q: What did one slice of bread say to the other slice of bread when he saw some butter and jam on the table?
    A: We’re toast!

    Now that is a joke!

  67. Peter says

    earthling
    I spent a week in Athens, Ga, and made a side trip to Asheville, NC. Everyone in Ga. told me how great an area Asheville was. Well, I made a wrong turn off the freeway and suddenly was in THE scariest neighborhood I have ever seen.
    I live in SoCal and have been in south central L.A. , Inglewood, been through skid row, etc. None of the communities compare to the wrong end of Asheville. The nice part was okay, but the bad part sent me running back to Ga. that same day.

  68. So Krates says

    That is an interesting article, longarm. Did you notice the judge’s name?

    “Justice Peter Doody reserved decision until Nov. 9 on a number of smuggling-for-cash charges, including theft, laundering the proceeds of crime, possession of stolen property and breach of trust”

  69. Dustyroads says

    KCSO, I see collecting old gold as a progression, a natural step up. However, in my case I doubt I could ever get beyond bullion. For collecting old gold and having it gain value one must acquire the coin in the highest possible grade, that’s very expensive. You could, as it’s been mentioned here, collect $2.5 or civil war era coins. But it’s always going to be a rare and high grade game.

  70. Dustyroads says

    This guy may walk if the Royal Mint isn’t able to prove any gold is missing. The only evidence against him is the three pucks in his safety deposit box. He could simply say he legitimately purchased them, but forgot who he purchased them from. Doesn’t the “I forgot, and word semantics defense work in American courts? I know it does for the leaders of our nation.

  71. David says

    There are already too many different quarters. It’s not simple anymore where we could just get 1 P and 1 D mint quarter every year and be done. Now there are 5 different quarter designs each year under the various mint marks and compositions. Where does it end?

  72. Jerry Shearman says

    Yet another un-necessary Mint program to rack in more money to a system that can not or will not adapt to other Countries creative coin issue’s . Just how many types of Dollar coins do we need ?

  73. David says

    Taking it a step further, we end up having to pay a premium to get these coins as they aren’t seen in circulation too much.

  74. Andrew says

    As a collector I say NOOOO…GOD PLEASE. ….NO MORE NEW (or any)DOLLAR COINS!!! The current mint and proof sets have turned into a bloated mess. Too many coins to deal with. As a fellow collector has stated at CCF, “these multi-year/multiple design coin programs are getting out of hand. Enough already, it’s time to get back to basics. And adding insult to injury, there are untold billions of these things sitting in government vaults and will likely never see the light of day. Why produce a coin that’s just mostly gonna be sitting in a government vault? Talk about government waste! Anyways this type of series that has become a regular staple at the mint has really turned me off to many coin series I used to find enjoyable.”
    Get back to making basic sets like in the 60s-80s. I’m about ready to discontinue buying mint and proof sets and just get the Eagles when they come out.

  75. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    You have to keep the same number of coins in the Proof Set. Otherwise the thinner pack implies a weak country and recession.
    And you don’t want to suggest even the slightest inkling of a thought of your one and only God the Stock Market going down, would you?
    We have to maintain the golden parachutes for the top 1%. The bottom 99% are just collateral damage.

  76. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    But I reckon it’s beneficial to mint more of these junk $1 coins in possible preparation of Trump Presidency and Casinos being built in every city, towne and village across our beloved United States.

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