November 2015 Circulating Coin Production: Saratoga Totals Released

2015-Saratoga-National-Historical-Park-Quarter-for-New-YorksmallThe U.S. Mint has issued its figures for November circulating coin production, including the first and final mintage totals for Saratoga National Historical Park quarters.

Overall production last month came to 1.2 billion coins, down 29% compared to October, which saw over 1.75 billion pieces struck.

The chart below details production numbers for the coins, broken down by denomination and mint facility. The first numerical column lists figures for the month of November, while the “Year to Date” numbers represent totals for all of 2015.

2015 US Mint Coin Production Figures
Nov-15 YTD 2015
Lincoln Cent – Denver 343.20 M 4,424.80 M
Lincoln Cent – Phil. 348.40 M 4,464.10 M
Jefferson Nickel – Denver 57.36 M 802.08 M
Jefferson Nickel – Phil. 57.36 M 713.52 M
Roosevelt Dime – Denver 111.50 M 1,465.00 M
Roosevelt Dime – Phil. 104.51 M 1,428.02 M
Quarters – Denver 106.80 M 1,555.60 M
Quarters – Phil. 116.60 M 1,438.62 M
Kennedy Half – Denver 0 2.30 M
Kennedy Half – Phil. 0 2.30 M
Native Am Dollar – Denver 0 2.24 M
Native Am Dollar – Phil. 0 2.80 M
Pres Dollar – Denver 0 16.67 M
Pres Dollar – Phil. 0 20.86 M
Total 1,245.73 M 16,338.90 M

The table below presents cumulative 2015 production numbers for America the Beautiful quarters and Presidential dollars, differentiated by design.

As noted above, these are the first totals for the Saratoga quarter, which has now concluded its production run. With a total of 436.4 million coins struck, Saratoga has the lowest mintage of all 2015 America the Beautiful quarters.

2015 US Mint Coin Production by Design
Denver Phil. Total
Homestead 248.60 M 214.40 M 463.00 M
Kisatchie 379.60 M 397.20 M 776.80 M
Blue Ridge Parkway 505.20 M 325.60 M 830.80 M
Bombay Hook 206.40 M 280.80 M 487.20 M
Saratoga 215.80 M 220.60 M 436.40 M
Harry S. Truman 3.50 M 4.90 M 8.4 M
Dwight D. Eisenhower 3.64 M 4.90 M 8.54 M
John F. Kennedy 5.32 M 6.16 M 11.48 M
Lyndon B. Johnson 4.20 M 4.90 M 9.10 M

In other news, the U.S. Mint has issued a statement saying it will stop issuing mail order forms after January 1, 2016. Orders by mail will be accepted and processed until September 30, 2016, after which time mail orders will be returned to customers with a request to resubmit the order by telephone or via the Mint’s Web site.

The Mint says this change stems from a desire to improve efficiency and consistency, as “orders placed through the mail are increasingly not accepted” due to rapid changes in inventory caused by faster-paced Web and phone transactions. Mail orders also take longer to “receive, process, and fulfill,” according to the statement.

The next mailing of brochures for Mint products will go out in January and will be the first batch issued without mail order forms.

Update (12/17/15): Adam Stump of the U.S. Mint has sent out the following notice amending the Mint’s prior statement on mail orders: 

“The United States Mint is currently analyzing a policy change to discontinue the distribution of mail order forms in 2016. Although the next mailing of U.S. Mint product brochures scheduled for January will highlight the online and phone ordering process, mail orders will continue to be accepted as usual. Updates on the policy will be announced in 2016.”

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  1. Rudy says

    Hey everybody. Let us have a little lighthearted fun. In honor of the upcoming blockbuster movie, I would like everybody to put the voices of Star Wars characters in their minds when they read the posts of the different bloggers. Remember, this is supposed to be lighthearted and fun.

    To start, I envision CagCrisp as C3PO: It is just the number thing “Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately three thousand, seven hundred and twenty to one!”

    So Krates as Admiral Motti: Based on his religion views, “Don’t try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebel’s hidden fort…”

    Xena as Princess Leia or Queen Amidala. Sorry about typecasting, but they do all fit into the “Warrior Princess” category.

    Obvious flippers as Boba Fett. “He’s no good to me dead.”

    Those upset with the Mint and threatening to just quit, as Darth Vader. “You have failed me for the last time…” followed by a choking sound.

    Anybody from Category V as Obi-Wan. The old version reminiscing about a more civilized time.

    Have fun with this, but so help me, if anybody compares me with Jar Jar, mesa will be putin’ a Force choke on yousa like you have never seen.

  2. mark says

    Flipping those star wars (The Force Awakens) figurines have made me a very nice profit this year. The final mystery figure will be released this Friday the 18th at 3 a.m EST…. One per guest. These sell out faster then some U.S Mint hot releases.

  3. cagcrisp says

    In my C3PO voice I say “A 2015 platinum proof PCGS PR70 DCAM just left the country for $4,200.00″…

  4. cagcrisp says

    I’ve been Tracking platinum proof bay sales in OGP since 12/03/15. Total Sold since 12/03/15 through 12/15/15 is 276 in OGP…

    1st 50 Sold Averaged $1,615.91
    Next 50 Sold Averaged $1,660.98
    Next 50 Sold Averaged $1,716.23
    Next 50 Sold Averaged $1,900.39
    Next 50 Sold Averaged $2,062.49
    Last 50 Sold Averaged $2,172.98

  5. gary says

    @Rudy… I am a Category V. Obi Wan is O.K. but I have more heartfelt affinity to Yoda despite the fact that I don’t have Yoda’s chick magnet appeal. LOL

    For good ol’ Jabba the Hutt, whose else but (your choice) of NGC or PCGS or maybe just da boda them?

  6. mattarch says

    @Gary, don’t you mean “heartfelt affinity to Yoda have I, despite the fact that Yoda’s chick magnet appeal have I not?”

    For myself I will take the Ewoks. A few little squeaks is all they add, but they seem to have more fun than anyone else.

  7. boz says

    Must be a black star wars hole that coins go into. Few recent dimes or quarters show up in rolls. Proportion is about 50/50 between 1965-67 coins 50 something years old and stuff around 15-20 years old, particularly the early statehood quarter years.

    So where are the billions upon billions of newer dimes and quarters being stored, in treasury vaults with the dead president dollars?

  8. Sith says

    @Rudy – Hey I’m a Sith and you give everyone else a Star Wars character name…shame on you. As a FYI you can call me I’m Dark Maul 🙂

    From previous thread –

    Erik H – My trade dollar with chop sticks was counterfeit. I got my money back but got gun shy with them and never dipped my toe in the pool again.

  9. Rudy says

    Thanks, for reminding me, Boz. Roll searchers are like Jawas…scavengers. When you find one of those elusive coins, remember to shout “UTINNI!!”

  10. gary says

    LOL Mattarch!!! THAT’S what I meant! Poifect!!!!!!!

    EWOKS! good one and no pressure need to remember your lines on camera.

  11. Eddie says

    I wished the mint still minted 1/10 Gold Buffaloes.
    I would buy the Buffalo over the AGE & Maple Leaf every time.

  12. cagcrisp says

    @Eddie, I’m not suggesting which one,however, if you are considering the Proof AGE then be aware that there are only 58 in stock…

  13. says

    Rudy – it is so very true, you were a “bubblehead” – LMAO, this is too funny…

    Totally lighthearted here, Ok? (Based off message or mannerism) –

    VA Bob as Obi-Wan (All Knowing source of wisdom)
    GF as Han Solo (for his enduring flamboyant yet spot on comments)
    DR as DV
    Jeff as Chewbacca – don’t think to hard about this one
    Sith as Sith
    Hildago as R2D2
    FM as Mr. Binks
    Louis as Yoda (quiet, contrarian, and just knows the $%!+ that’s about to happen)
    Princess Leia – We need more Princesses out here
    Lando – KCSO – for usually putting his foot in his mouth
    Flippers – Land People

    Ok, all in good spirit here, thinks there’s about a dozen more we could connect the dots to…

  14. Rudy says

    Sith, based on the name I felt that there was no comment needed. The question is, are you a “Yes, my master.” or “Join me, and we will rule the galaxy together.”?

    SoKrates, I have one in my collection. I got it in a trade with a NY dealer back in the mid 90’s. He referred to it as the “Johnny 7” card. He told me the airbrush story. Much more believable than the wardrobe malfunction excuse.

  15. Erik H says

    Sith, sorry to hear that.

    So Krates, thanks for the Britannia purity (I can’t remember everything and didn’t have time to fact check it).

  16. bobo says

    The mint says it will post Cumulative Numismatic Sales Figures by 5PM on Tuesdays (“Figures are posted weekly by 5 p.m. (ET) Tuesdays to reflect sales demand through the previous Sunday”) then consistently does so much later, sometimes not even on Tuesdays. The mint should not say it will do something and then not do it. Imagine if a private business were so indifferent or careless. It would lose customers. Monopolies breed this kind of behavior. The USPS improved a lot once Fedex and UPS started taking away their business.

  17. tP says

    My Star Wars character got killed off early in Episode One… never knew his name… was just a passing StormTrooper…

  18. Rudy says

    bobo, you tickled my memory as well.

    U.S. Mint customer service as non other than the Emperor himself: “Powerrrr!! Unlimited powerrrr!!”

  19. John Q. Coinage says

    Yoda says: Quarters S mint sell they ot, folk not care these in future days. Spend round one as if younglings feel happy, not more collectors to come three be….. use mustard on bread to fill with these S 2bits of value little beyons coin geeksters……

  20. VA Bob says

    KCSO – In some ways I feel like Obi Wan. Banished to Tatooine with the Sand People busting my mojo sending my 5 oz Saratoga on a “Smartpost” tour of the Empire. And just like Obi Wan, when the Mint strikes me down, I’m back buying their crap, stronger than before.

    I thought for sure Jon in CT would get the Emperor honors for disturbing the force.

  21. cagcrisp says

    Truman vs. Eisenhower vs. Johnson (Updated through Sales on 12/15/15)

    I’ve tracked the Truman’s since 08/02. Total bay Sales I’ve tracked since 08/02 for the Truman’s in OGP are 829 through 12/15/15…

    1st 62 Sold Averaged $201.00
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $204.81
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $205.93
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $192.91
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $193.37
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $193.64
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $195.57
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $214.75
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $225.36
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $222.94
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $237.11
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $243.05
    Next 59 Sold Averaged $240.99
    Last 59 Sold Averaged $245.65

    I’ve tracked the Eisenhower’s since 08/17. Total bay Sales I’ve tracked since 08/17 for the Eisenhower in OGP are 2,222 through 12/15/15…

    1st 215 Sold Averaged $206.68
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $190.01
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $181.08
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $169.49
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $165.77
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $164.73
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $160.19
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $153.62
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $159.39
    Next 208 Sold Averaged $156.52
    Last 135 Sold Averaged $152.30

    I’ve tracked the Johnson’s since 10/27. Total bay Sales I’ve tracked since 10/27 for the Johnson in OGP are 1283 through 12/15/15…

    1st 150 Sold Averaged $96.79
    Next 150 Sold Averaged $94.92
    Next 150 Sold Averaged $87.71
    Next 150 Sold Averaged $81.82
    Next 150 Sold Averaged $78.00
    Next 150 Sold Averaged $72.00
    Next 150 Sold Averaged $73.20
    Next 150 Sold Averaged $72.21
    Last 83 Sold Averaged $71.30

  22. Tom Stringer says

    Only 99 of the Bombay Hook 5oz remaining… Based on the last report from the Mint, Bombay Hook had the lowest sales of any of the 2015 5oz coins…

  23. Xena says

    Rudy – fun! LMAO! I’m honored to be compared to either the Princess or the Queen. But I’ll take Princess Leia since 1 – more traditional (Navy, remember) and 2 – she hooked up with Han. Could never figure out what the Senator/Queen saw in Anakin – loser in lots of ways (doesn’t believe in Democracy, moody, obsessed…).

  24. Jerry Diekmann says

    My favorite SW character was Boba Fett – all that weaponry combined with a singlemindedness and a “Show me the money!” stance. Maybe I should change my name to a handle for the coming new year. My best friend, a USMC major, now deceased, God rest his soul, always called me “Big D”, so I may become “Big D” in 2016. No, you don’t have to write this down in your calendars – I will try to remember.

  25. So Krates says

    @ Jerry Diekmann – I like his dad, Jango Fett, mostly because he’s portrayed by Temuera Morrison, a very talented actor from New Zealand. Mr. Morrison has also done Boba Fett’s voice in some of the films and video games. He plays grade “A” bad ass, Jake “the Muss”, in “Once Were Warriors”. .

  26. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    We need a Commem 1966 – 2016
    Star Trek 50 years, Formation of Jim Morrison & the Doors 1966
    Jimi Hendrix Experience debut 1966. BeaTLes Revolver 1966.

  27. gary says

    Just 66 Bombay “P” 5 oz. left!
    Just as soon as my single Bombay “P” arrives from my Dec. 8 order I’ll be immediately returning the milk spotted one that I ordered on the Bombay 1st day of sale. I would hope that the U.S. Mint would not put my returned Bombay back in inventory as another buyer would surely return it also.

  28. gary says

    I feel that the Bombay and Saratoga “P” will eventually (when the dust settles) reveal both designs with final mintage numbers around 18,500 to 19,500 for either of them.
    Any final mintages below 18K would be excellent though!!!

  29. JP says

    Have others noticed the surface quality of Philadelphia mint presidential dollars have declined with spots and nicks? I’d buy a box of 10 of them and the Denver mint, which has had better quality, because I supply relatives with rolls, and more recently opened one roll of each to make series sets. In the course of minting the series, Philadelphia mint quality recently declined and was especially poor with Kennedy; seems like the nicks are from dropping from unusual heights(?). I realize that these are “circulating” quality, but the mint charges us 10% extra for them, and believe I should expect better for that price (I know about returns). I’d bought another box of 10 as well as a box of 2 of the Philadelphia mint Kennedy, with the similar quality from both packages. Based on my relatively small purchase, it looks like Philadelphia neglected quality to meet production numbers. If the mint was anticipating high demand and potential interest of new collectors, I would have thought that the mint would have paid attention to make the Kennedy dollar quality high. Have others noticed their Kennedy dollar surface quality was especially poor?

  30. data dave says

    Does anyone else out there search nickel rolls? I was getting nickel rolls from the bank when the metal (nickel) was climbing and I thought the mint might change the composition. Well it doesn’t look like that will happen anytime soon now with the metal falling (along with all the other ones). But, as I got the rolls I would look through them and pull out the older ones, silver, proof, buffaloes, etc. The yield has dropped a lot over the past 10 years, from maybe 2 per roll down to 1 out of every three rolls. For the data people out there, I had to look through 2000 rolls before I found my one and only 1950-D.

  31. Blair J. Tobler says

    Looks like the Mint is working on putting 2016 products on their Product Schedule page. There’s now a “2016” and a “TBD” on the drop-down menu, and when you click on “2016” is shows “41 items found”, but doesn’t display them yet….

  32. gary says

    Well so much for a countdown.

    Saratoga and Bombay “P” Mint 5 oz. are BOTH back up on the US Mint website with 100+ now available!!!

  33. cagcrisp says

    The Mint MAY increase bullion pucks in 2016 due to the changes in the design of the ASE uncirculated and proof. They are going to have Several thousand more ounces of Silver available. Either increase ASE bullion or puck bullion. They need something to fill the Silver revenue void until the new designed ASE uncirculated and proofs appear…

  34. Mark Rex says

    cagcrisp says
    DECEMBER 15, 2015 AT 2:46 PM

    In my C3PO voice I say “A 2015 platinum proof PCGS PR70 DCAM just left the country for $4,200.00″

    That was my sale and I couldn’t believe it! I had listed BIN for $4.2k and best offer. Stated in the listing that I didn’t expect to get the buy it now price looking for best offers. Wondering where the prices of Sealed, OGP, 69 and 70s go from here.

    I got into coins once my daughter was born in May 2012. Late into 2012 I found 5 ounce pucks. I was able to get the last 2 of 2012. One I discovered them on the US Mint site they had Chaco and Acadia or Denali ((forgot which) available. I ordered the Chaco and planned to order the other the following week but by time I went back it was sold out so got another Chaco. I was able to get a Denali OGP from MCM a while later. I opened the box for my first five ounce coin from the US Mint but have left all the others sealed I bought was from the U.S. Mint. Since 2013 I had bought five each of the 5 oz P pucks all in separate orders. I am really hoping for the sake of my three-year-old daughter into-year-old son that these turn out to be great investments! Unfortunately, PM8 platinum proof coin was released on the same day as SN5 Sag 5 oz P and with all the excitement around the platinum coin I totally forgot about the puck.

    As I was writing this comment, I checked the US Mint site and they had SN5 back in stock and was just able to order 2. I really want five but with the recent platinum purchase and making sure that clears out, living on fixed income (disabled/legally blind) and Christmas quickly approaching I don’t know if I can afford it.

  35. gary says

    @MarkRex… That is fantastic!!!! Congratulations on that immensely successful sale of your graded 2015 Platinum Proof!
    As to the ATB’s THAT is a really great strategy to follow assembling a collection for your children.
    An ATB “P” 5 oz. collection may not turn out to be a GREAT investment but I believe it will turn out pretty good at least in the future.

  36. Stuart Bradley says

    The “remind me” button really worked for the first time. I got notice that the Saratoga 5 oz pucks were available again.

  37. Mark Rex says

    Thank you very much Gary. Although, I am not count my eggs until they hatch. I am really starting to be concerned about risk reward here. Hopefully I’m just being paranoid. I know that eBay all sides with buyers are in disputes. Worst case scenario of this could be a great loss for me as its more than 1/3 my annual income. (Not counting income from reselling and flips) This is my biggest ever own eBay. Worst case scenario would be the card used was stolen or fraudulently used and the true owner doesn’t know it yet. I don’t know what PayPal would do in this case; if claw back $4200 from my PP or what. I would hope not because I didn’t do anything wrong. I video record the packaging and shipping of all my orders and I definitely insured this one for full value.

    Would anyone be interested in trading any 2000-2012 ATB P for 2013-2015 ATB P. All mine are sealed in the original box where is received from the US Mint. Would love to trade a Ohio Perry Victory for a Hawaii Volcano – ;). Seriously looking for a fair trade where it might take two of mine for one of yours.

  38. Mark Rex says

    I had to remind me for the SN5 but never got an email. Just happen to catch it on the site. Sure would be nice to catch a PM8!

  39. Rudy says

    @fmtransmitter said “Did anyone ever figure out why the FS Medal set from 2104 was “sp special” to sell for such a premium, albeit, a short period of time?”

    If you look at the entire run, it kind of makes sense. A boatload of people jumped on these in 2007 (myself included). They were affordable and were a perfect compliment to the President Medal set. I started buying just the 4/5 medal sets because they were cheaper than the sum of their parts. I am not sure what year it was (somewhere around 2010), they stopped making the individual medals. My guess is that the majority of people buying the medals were buying the sets instead of the individual medals. For some unknown reason, the mint limited the number of President $1 coin/spouse medal sets produced in 2014 (4500 for the first 3 and 7000 for FDR) and only made about 7500 four medal sets available. The sets sold out in about 2 weeks and it looked as if they weren’t going to produce any more. Like a bunch of other people, I caved and bought a set for way more than the issue price. These would still be over $200 if the Mint hadn’t put out more (I think it was late December). This put a glut on the market and the prices dropped to much more reasonable prices. Here comes the interesting part…there are still not enough. If you look at the President $1 coin/spouse medal sets from 2014, you will find that they are fetching >$100 each ($50 for FDR). The 4 medal sets have crept back up to around $80. More interesting…the 2013 four medal set is in the $200+ range.
    My guess is that the prices are a combination of short supply and higher demand for the 20th century spouses. It is interesting that the Mint didn’t figure this out when they decided to produce the 2015 Coin and Chronicle sets.

  40. Stuart Bradley says

    From what I can tell the Saratoga pucks were available for 2 hours. I received my “remind me” email notice at 8:06 AM ET and they went “currently unavailable” at around 10:05. It must have been several hundred at least. I am glad that the “remind me” button finally worked. Got 2 more.

  41. IPS_STUFF says

    I don’t see anyone buying up the PM8 at $1995
    Dealer has 10 since last night and no sales yet

    maybe this one is cooling off already?

  42. cagcrisp says

    I am Surprised that PM’s are this strong going into the interest rate increase.

    Better hope the word “measured” or something similar is used in the press release or the Q&A…

  43. Zaz says

    What happened to the 2016/TBD drop downs on the product schedule. I swore I saw them this morning but no actual list. 41 scheduled in ’16, 37 TBD. Maybe we’ll see a tentative schedule today?

  44. GoldFishin says

    @Cag- I imagine they will use the word measured about a dozen times. Nothing fundamentally has changed since last week. I hear a lot of noise.

  45. The Real "Cool" Brad says

    @Rudy, thanks now every time I read a Cagcrisp post I hear C3P0. As for me, I think I’m the annoying Jar-jar Binks.

  46. Blair J. Tobler says

    Zaz – it was there all right – I saw it too, and now it’s gone again. We’re only 16 days from the new year, it be nice if they’d give us some info already.

  47. cagcrisp says

    @IPS_STUFF,
    “I don’t see anyone buying up the PM8 at $1995
    Dealer has 10 since last night and no sales yet

    maybe this one is cooling off already?”

    You talking your Book? You Sold 1 at $1,649.00 and 1 at $1,749.00. You jealous of those prices that you missed out on? You know that dealer has hand picked what he is offering so $1,995.00 is par for a 69. What until the dealer gets some 70’s and see what he offers those for…

  48. IPS_STUFF says

    @CAGCRISP

    Won’t comment on my transactions, never have never will. You as the official stat keeper on MNB know all and sometimes maybe share too much!

    But I do know that it appears they are slowing…

    Liberty coin is a good dealer and most likely this are not leftovers, they don’t have any graded on their website.
    I purchased a 2015 buffalo Gold proof from them and was very happy with it. They are a local dealer (for me) that I have dealt with for over 35 years and are within 10 miles of my home. If were going to buy from any “major grader” Liberty would be one of them.

  49. cagcrisp says

    @IPS_STUFF, Yes sales are Slowing. The numbers that I post show that. I’ve also posted that Many of the Buyers have been from a handful of dealers buying unopened boxes in the hopes of getting 70’s. I’ve also posted that dealers/flippers would be All Over the platinum proof. I posted all that before Launch and after Launch.

    The fact that you posted that a dealer having 10 @ $1,995.00 is what was upsetting. You Know that Any dealer that has both graded and ungraded offering, you know what you should be getting. It doesn’t matter which dealer you are talking about. They all look at the product and those that look good are sent to be graded. Some come back 69s and some come back 70s. Since these coins in Question are being offered at this time, has to tell you they were not submitted for Grading and IF a dealer looks at a coin and doesn’t submit it, that tells me ‘something’. And for that ‘something’ $1,995.00 is what he is offering…

  50. cagcrisp says

    For those watching the market today, Oil is Driving the bus. The Fed may be sitting right behind the driver but Oil is the major concern.

    Until Oil finds a bottom the market is range bound…

  51. cagcrisp says

    Mint sales numbers posted Today compared to the excel spreadsheet posted on Monday shows 8 items different. That’s 8 items out of 254 line items.

    None of the numbers that I posted Monday have changed…

  52. cagcrisp says

    @Mark Rex, congrats on your platinum proof sale. It went outside the country. Hopefully it didn’t go to China…

  53. cagcrisp says

    @data dave,
    Follow the following link:

    http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_mint/cumulativeSalesStatistics/

    Use the 2nd green icon “Download all the data to date in XLS format”

    It May be there late on Monday and sometimes it may be there on Tuesday but for the most part it gives you a heads up on the later Mint numbers. It is a Large excel file and the current week (when it appears) will be at the Bottom of the excel file…

  54. data dave says

    @cacrisp – Thank you much sir! 27 Mbytes, but it is all there. And it will help for other things I would like to track.

  55. mark says

    So whats the safest way to ship a high $$$ coin outside the country. So many sellers on ebay think if they buy insurance that their silver and gold are covered….(NOT).

  56. gary says

    @Mark Rex … I have been there before in selling an expensive coin to a foreign country.Depending on the country it goes to I do know that until it leaves the U.S. customs clearance location you are protected under U.S. laws.
    Customs clearance can take a week or more usually. Given the holiday season it most likely will be longer than that. To track your shipment you will need to get the tracking number for the destination country. It then needs to go through a customs import clearance when it enters the destination country.
    In any case, don’t be too alarmed if it looks like it is not moving in transit.
    When shipping overseas it is usually nerve rockingly slow, slow, slow. In comparison it makes domestic Fedex Smartpost look like overnight delivery!

  57. gary says

    MarkRex…If your shipment is going through the “Ship it Globally” Ebay program, check with Ebay customer service on what actual coverage you have based upon the country that it is being shipped to. You will get an answer that will fit your question as to “Safest Way” level for a specific country. This is my best advise.

  58. Jeff says

    I exclude international sellers on my ebay account. that also means I may leave meat on the bone, to risky for a few extra bucks. KEEP MY COINS IN AMERICA that’s my motto.

  59. mark says

    Banks raise rate to 3.5% on the money you borrow. But do not raise interest rates on on the money you have in deposits….WOW

  60. cagcrisp says

    @GoldFishin, For Years I didn’t use caller ID. Now I don’t answer the phone without it.

    That’s my definition of Data Dependent .

    circus coins, silver coins and Gold coins…

  61. MarkInFlorida says

    Interest rates go up, and gold and silver go up. I thought that wasn’t supposed to happen.

  62. Sith says

    MarkInFlorida I agree, this has got to be the craziest market. Does anyone know what happened to cause a spike in PMs?

  63. cagcrisp says

    I don’t see Anything crazy about Today’s market. I was Surprised that PMs moved up BEFORE the statement. After the statement I could see why prices moved up modestly for both Silver and Gold…

  64. cagcrisp says

    IF you are LONG PMs today’s statement (and Yellen’s press conference)was about as good as you could get…

  65. gary says

    Oh well, looks like next year’s ATB 5 oz. silver “P” & bullion versions are going to cost more at some point in 2016 than they did this year.

    I sure hope future ATB “P” 5 oz. never reach the $279.95 Mint price tag for the 2010s.

  66. GoldFishin says

    as expected…business as usual..need those volatility premiums to evaporate(in the process) and I will be golden…..no pun intended. Watch the $.

  67. Sith says

    @cagcrisp – Why did you see PMs going up after the rate hike?

    @gary- I doubt that, silver is at the price point that the mint should have lower prices in all silver items, with the irony being they will need to actually acquire the silver for the ATBs

  68. gary says

    @Cagcrisp… I agree with your statement. Looks very promising to stay long OR begin to go long on precious metals in general.

  69. gary says

    @Sith… I agree with you that the Mint SHOULD HAVE lowered ALL silver numismatic products this year.
    I was only speculating on the possibility of that happening but if the PMs suddenly zigzag upward and that pattern stays they could temporarily halt any precious metals numismatic item (silver, gold, platinum) in the manner they did in the recent past.

  70. cagcrisp says

    @Sith, The .25 raise was about 90% predicted. What has not been factored in the market is whether this is a One and Done or Return to Normal. The statement and the press conference were more Dovish than I would have thought. Data Dependent, accomodative , measured and gradual. Those all were words you Wanted to hear IF you are long PMs. Those were all said.

    I know you have mentioned before that you don’t Agree with No inflation but the Feds target remains at 2% and yet by their own forecast it will not be but 1.6%. The Fed has missed on the low side of inflation for three years. The ‘ dot plot’ were also reduced by 25 basis points and that is significant.

    This is just One day but today what was said was good for PMs…

  71. cagcrisp says

    @gary, I never said to stay long or to begin to go long.

    IF you are LONG then today was a good day. A day. One day. Lot of factors, but TODAY was a good day.

    What was Said TODAY was good…

  72. cagcrisp says

    “The Fed has missed on the low side of inflation for three years.” I should have said the Fed has missed on the HIGH side of inflation for three years…

  73. fmtransmitter says

    IMHO, everything any Govnmt agency does is months to years behind what is reality, more private sector please…

  74. gary says

    @Cagcrisp… I was merely agreeing with your earlier statement.
    “Looks very promising to stay long OR begin to go long on precious metals in general.” expresses my opinion and was not meant to say or even imply that my sentiment was yours. Sorry for the confusion. Hope this clarifies. 🙂

  75. fmtransmitter says

    What is sad is that our entire Publicly Traded Companies hold on to every word that the Fed says. The fed has way to much perceived power and that “fake” power will go right away once we put the Private Sector back in charge of making sound decisions for Govnmt Agencies, they do it better and faster and that is the way it should be. Our own US Mint should be done by the Private sector, we would have DMPL bullion galore like Perth!!

  76. Jeff says

    FM right just like the stock market it fair its legit, give me a break. So your saying let the 1%’ers decide whoa some people just can’t see the light.

  77. JP says

    @data dave,
    “Does anyone else out there search nickel rolls? ”

    I search nickel rolls occasionally, and set aside the Westward Journey Series, but I do not find much more than that.

  78. says

    File this under there’s a first time for everything, my order Saturday morning for 10 Saratogies was changed to 7. In the email I got from the mint Monday they said it was all they had in stock. So where did the ones today come from?

  79. So Krates says

    Every time I bring up the stock market in the presence of one particular stacker/silver bug I know, she always says “investing in the market is like a blind date with a whore”

  80. cagcrisp says

    Someone just Sold 16 Johnsons for $66.95 each. The question i have is why would Anyone wait this late in the game to unload that many? Why wait? What do you know Now about the Johnsons that you didn’t know weeks ago?.

  81. fmtransmitter says

    cagcrisp says
    DECEMBER 16, 2015 AT 7:02 PM

    Someone just Sold 16 Johnsons for $66.95 each. The question i have is why would Anyone wait this late in the game to unload that many? Why wait? What do you know Now about the Johnsons that you didn’t know weeks ago?.

    gifts to buy, need cash, was long before, broke now

  82. fmtransmitter says

    Jeff says
    DECEMBER 16, 2015 AT 5:50 PM

    FM right just like the stock market it fair its legit, give me a break. So your saying let the 1%’ers decide whoa some people just can’t see the light.

    no i didnt say that, YOU said that. Don’t put words to me Jeff.
    I SAID, let the PVt sector submit plans on how to do things better, and have a system where the RIGHT people are awarded for their high end quality service and problem solving. It does not happen in Govnmt agencies.

  83. Wayne says

    Saratogas went dark days ago and reappeared for a few hours this morning. Looks like they are toast. Last night Bombay showed only 76 available but back in stock today. VERY close to being sold out any time.

  84. Barry says

    I read Congress voted to extend subsidies for solar power that were scheduled to expire. That may be the reason for the price increase in silver today.

  85. GoldFishin says

    @KCSO 🙂 My eyes are still watery……..the Republican one was even funnier!! But, now I can’t get that last Ben Carson song out of my head! 🙂

  86. tP says

    Lots of investment tips here…

    Thought that I should pass along some advice my broker gave me…

    I called him and asked what I should be investing in, as I feel interest rates are not going to be rising as they did during the late 70’s early 80’s.

    I also told him I thought we ought to be looking to stay out of bonds, and find a safe haven in which to invest. I asked him, “Should we move to precious metals, foreign currency or what?”

    He responded, “If the Democrats are in office much longer, canned goods, water and ammunition are probably your best bet.”

  87. Erik H says

    I can’t remember where I heard this recently but a TV commentator said that the last 5 times that the Fed raised interest rates gold moved higher each time.

  88. A different Jeff says

    Not sure if this is significant, but it does indicate a possible quality issue on the various C&C sets. My Trumans (3) and Eisenhowers (2) were fine, but I had to send back 2 (out of 4) Kennedys and 2 (out of 4) Johnsons; both issues had multiple instances of orange spotting.

    Kennedy has 947 ‘unsold’, presumably returns, or 1.9%; Johonson has 1,095 ‘unsold or 4.4%; Eisenhower running at 1.5% although about 85 net have come back; Truman running at 1.1% with 30 net coming back.

    It may only show that with the lower HH limit buyers are being more critical of their purchases.

  89. says

    So true Bro.., next week we’ll have tonight’s debate and a meaningful sales report..,, better than a Super Bowl, yeah? … ok maybe a little bit 😉

    I’m still disappointed that Hildago didn’t take me up on my offer, heck tomorrow I have meeting in his ‘hood, could easily drop that tailgate and take care of business & all his troubles.

    BHoF = APE = the next big rave

    In all seriousiness, November/December has not been a good month, a lot of STEM jobs continue to move overseas (at least in aviation/defense), & we’ve outsourced Space development, ..so maybe there’s some awesome sauce beyond flipp’n burgers to keep the economy moving.., though I’m not seeing it.., besides infrastructure repair…

  90. says

    KCSO said:
    …In all seriousiness, November/December has not been a good month, a lot of STEM jobs continue to move overseas (at least in aviation/defense), & we’ve outsourced Space development, ..so maybe there’s some awesome sauce beyond flipp’n burgers to keep the economy moving.., though I’m not seeing it.., besides infrastructure repair…

    Yeah, I agree US space development took a GIANT step backward when Orbital was allowed to buy a ride for its Cygnus capsule atop a ULA Atlas V booster powered by Russian-built RD-180 engines. This, of course, was after Orbital’s own launcher blew up just above the launch pad at Wallops Island.

  91. says

    @SoKrates–I don’t know much about the world’s oldest profession, so would you please ask your friend if it’s redundant to say “blind date with a whore”? Perhaps it’s better only to date ladies of the evening whom you know. My stock portfolio apparently may benefit from this awareness. Thanks.

  92. Mark Rex says

    To clarify, I am not the same poster as “mark”. The coin I sold one to a buyer in the United States.

    I still have a few boxes each of AX2 AX3 and AX4. I never did try to sell them like I did with the AX1 which I got about $200 each set for. I can certainly understand the guy who sold his for $67 as money can get tight pretty quickly. There still feel and I am hoping for a rebound eventually. However, if a month comes where is either paying the mortgage, keeping the electric on, making sure I have food to feed my kids or something like that I would sell at any price. I would hope to at least break even though.

    I’m actually quite surprised how poorly the other AX(2,3,4) are now performing since supply was low to start and only gets lower. Where do you guys see these products in a year or 2? I have one of the sets with listed for $100 right now and I haven’t been keeping track of recent sales. Apparently it is selling for less right now but that’s fine with me as I’m in no rush to get rid of it. As time passes I’ll probably increase the price until I need the money for a bill, to buy a new coin for kids or a resell opportunity (coin flip, product flip, etc).

    I apologize for my last few posts. I should of proofread Siri. But, kids keep me busy so not proofreading this one. I hope you get th the gist of it. There both cranky and need to be put to bed.

  93. says

    Mark Rex said:
    … I apologize for my last few posts. I should of proofread Siri. But, kids keep me busy so not proofreading this one. …

    Translation: I accept no blame for any spelling or syntax errors in my posts, even though I posted them.

  94. cagcrisp says

    ‘Sold Listing’ of the ‘2015 high relief Liberty’ on the bay Through 12/16/15 since Day 1. (updated Sales Number since 11/28/15):

    OGP…..298…. Average Sold pricing….$1,617.34 (+45 Sold)
    NGC 68…..3…..$1,514.83 (+0)
    NGC 68PL…..1…..$1,625.00 (+0)
    NGC 69…..117…..$1,598.38 (+7)
    NGC 69PL…..13…..$2,099.61 (+0)
    NGC 70…..431…..$1,816.75 (+20)
    NGC 70PL…..9…..$7,831.56 (+1)
    PCGS 69…..84…..$1,559.50 (+8)
    PCGS 70…..533…..$1,830.09 (+19)
    PCGS 70PL…..11…..$9,214.91 (+0)
    TOTAL …..1,500…..$1,842.50 (+100)

  95. Jerry Diekmann says

    merryxmasscrooge – don’t forget the Batman TV show! What a cast of characters! Remember Batman on a rope with a shark trying to get him? “Jaws” was still nine years away!

  96. Buzz Killington says

    @SoKrates & @Clark —

    I interpret this use of “whore” to be less a literal reference to the world’s oldest profession, and instead a sometimes common way of referring to the opposite of prudishness or frigidity.

    With that reading, her comment rings true, because investing in the stock market is also a productive venture.

    I have made WAY, and I mean *WAY* more money on stocks than on coins. When I get closed out of coin issue, I remember how close I was to putting $10K in Sirius when it was ten cents per share (It is over $4/share now), and how I chickened out, which is by far my worst investing decision of all time.

  97. So Krates says

    @ Clark and Buzz K. – Since she rattles off the same one liner every single time I mention the market, I have on occasion asked for clarification. Never received any so this colorful description is open to your own interpretation.

    I do know one old market adage that has served me well over the years. One that tP might heed when asking his broker for advice…

    A broker is a salesman, a broker is a salesman, a broker is a salesman!

  98. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    I know of no coin whose date ends in ‘6’ that is a rarity in at least the past 100 years: 2006, 1996, 1986, 1976, 1956, 1946, 1936, 1926, all common 1916… Yes! The 1916 std. lib. quarter! OK, next year will there be any rarities? I mean the kind you can find in change.

  99. Sith says

    @cagcrisp – My point exactly, I guess the world has gone crazy. The Fed talks about doing things that would be bad for gold but does nothing and it tanks the PM’s price. Then they actually do something bad for gold but talk about something good later on down the line and gold pops.

  100. JOSEPH says

    Thank you for the free tip. are you a shoe-shine boy and where do you work? right outside NYSE? LOL

    cagcrisp says

    December 16, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    IF you are LONG PMs today’s statement (and Yellen’s press conference)was about as good as you could get

  101. cagcrisp says

    @JOSEPH ,
    Why don’t you use this quote ”

    cagcrisp says

    December 16, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    @gary, I never said to stay long or to begin to go long.

    IF you are LONG then today was a good day. A day. One day. Lot of factors, but TODAY was a good day.

    What was Said TODAY was good…”

  102. JOSEPH says

    Sorry,didn’t see that. I am with you. gold will be priced under 1k next year…

    @JOSEPH ,
    Why don’t you use this quote ”

    cagcrisp says

    December 16, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    @gary, I never said to stay long or to begin to go long.

    IF you are LONG then today was a good day. A day. One day. Lot of factors, but TODAY was a good day.

    What was Said TODAY was good…

  103. So Krates says

    JOSEPH -Thanks for the tip, now go home and get yer f’in shinebox

    OT – I met a guy last night who called him Peter “Shift”….I didn’t correct him

  104. gary says

    @Sith… the “bad for gold” you mentioned in an earlier post only needed 24 hrs. to show up.
    PMs all across the board are tanking as of 1 P.M. EST

  105. So Krates says

    I care not much what the dollar is doing. My American Gold Eagle has the same $50 face value and contains the same one troy ounce of gold just like it did yesterday, last month, 2011 and in 1986 when in was minted.

  106. cagcrisp says

    An About Face??

    This was on the Mint’s FB page on 12/15/15:
    “Changes in 2016: to create a more consistent and efficient shopping experience, we will no longer include mail order forms in our product catalogs and brochures. Mail order forms still in circulation for current products will be accepted through September 30. We look forward to serving you by phone (800) USA-MINT, our website

    This in on the Mint’s FB page Today:
    Attention Customers: the United States Mint is currently analyzing a policy change to discontinue the distribution of mail order forms in 2016. Although the next mailing of U.S. Mint product brochures scheduled for January will highlight the online and phone ordering process, mail orders will continue to be accepted as usual. Updates on the policy will be announced in 2016.

  107. Scott says

    Prediction for tomorrow’s post on the U.S. Mint Website “We really don’t know what we’re doing or how to manage the availability of our products, but we’re really good at pissing off our collector base.” Of course, something similar could be posted on every .gov website.

  108. Jeff says

    longarm says

    December 17, 2015 at 1:32 pm $850 gold, $7 silver and $25 oil
    I say bring it on

    I agree, as well Dow 15000, S&P 1900, Nasdaq 4700 I’m bailing

  109. Scott says

    I’m bullish on wasteful government spending, apparently there’s no limit to the stupidity in D.C. As long as there’s ink and paper, nothing’s going to stop the madness.

  110. Hidalgo says

    As I stated earlier this week, as interest rise, the price of precious metals will fall. Silver is tanking right now. I wonder what the future will be for precious metal prices…..

  111. Hidalgo says

    @Sith – I want to ensure folks make educated decisions. I myself will continue to buy coins made of precious metals since I collect coins as a hobby. I am not an investor, speculator, flipper, etc.

  112. Louis says

    Remember that it was dropping oil prices and what they portend for global growth that brought the equity markets down today, not the fed move.

  113. So Krates says

    I will sell some gold and buy stocks with the proceeds when the DJIA is the same price as one ounce of gold.

  114. Sith says

    @Hidalgo – I did not mean to pick on you so thank you for your advice…and I think PMs will go lower but that did not stop me from picking up a few rounds at 99 cents above spot from APMEX.

  115. JOSEPH says

    Yeah, just keep you AGE and say everyday to yourself they are still worth the same. LOL
    BTW, have you ever heard that Joe Kennedy sold all his stock after a shoe-shine boy gave him stock buying tips before the 1929 stock market crash? some people deserve what they get, because they never learn…

    So Krates says

    December 17, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    I care not much what the dollar is doing. My American Gold Eagle has the same $50 face value and contains the same one troy ounce of gold just like it did yesterday, last month, 2011 and in 1986 when in was minted.

  116. Sith says

    @JOSEPH – Boy I hate to defend So Krates but you did not read his post. IE he bought his house, and he could care less what the housing market and the price, (not value) of his house currently is at

  117. cagcrisp says

    The 1/10 oz. AGE is unavailable (for how long TBD). The Jackie Kennedy is down to 32. That’s a plus…

  118. So Krates says

    Who sleeps sounder? A man with 100 Gold Eagles in his safe or a man with $100K worth of SPDR in his 401K?

  119. says

    With a three year return of 16%, the guy who has this fund (SPDR) in his 401K should be able to sleep pretty well. At the same time, however, I would hope that a) the guy has a lot more than 100K in his retirement portfolio and, b) he diversified his retirement portfolio to include other growth funds.

  120. says

    Sith – to your 4:44 – Wow! It’s is going to be a very Merry Christmas out here on MNB! Nice Done, and thanks for your questions earily.., I have SOOOO often wondered the same.

    Cag, unfortunately I think we’ll start over again, at the same time, with the usual suspects.

  121. says

    Okay Boy & Girls – It’s Product Review Time –

    So, to the question – Can the 3″ Medal Case (product #052) which retails for $8.00 be used to house either variety of a puck? E.g…, as an economical yet eye appealing presentation case for loved ones during this special time of year.

    Over all assessment: The 3″ Medal Case appears to be a quality product for $8.00 and a much cheap substitute than other cases that house a 3″ medals. So I give it a thumbs up.

    WRT to a encapsulated P Puck – the medal case lid will not close if the puck is placed horizontal within the case nor will the P puck seat properly in the vertical slot – Thumbs down

    WRT to an encapsulated BU puck – the case lid will close with an APMEX puck in the horizontal position, and the puck will rest nicely in the vertical slot – Thumbs up

    WRT is an uncapsulated puck – the puck will rest nicely in the medal 3″ well and stand appropriately in the vertical slot. 2 Thumbs Up

    So Boys & Girls, you have a presentable, and economical alternated to much more expensive cases that are available on the market if you’re giving BU pucks as presents in #052.

    Merry Christmas!

  122. cagcrisp says

    I don’t necessarily sleep well at night but it has nothing to do with owning the SPY. I’ve got pretty much both sides of this equation covered…But I would choose SPY about 95% of the time. IF you’re Young go with the SPY and as you get older start backing off.

    I Think it’s always good to know what a posters bias is.

    @Keep Calm & Stack On!, I wish they would expand the Usual Suspects.

  123. So Krates says

    If you’re young go with SPY….translates to… if you are young enough to lose a ton and still have time to recover then take a chance but if you are old you won’t have time to recover so pull back.

    The bias I am always on the look out for is the status quo bias.

    Which do you prefer?

    Return On Investment or Return Of Investment?

  124. Sith says

    I know who sleeps the soundest, the person with shares in a utility company. He gets a nice fat dividend from a regulated monopoly, and if the SHTF it will be like holding cash as utility companies stocks represent tangible assets

  125. So Krates says

    Any opinions on natural gold nuggets?

    I don’t have much experience with them but have read that a 1 oz nugget is as rare as a 5 carat diamond.

  126. gary says

    @Sith… I like your acronym of SHTF much better than the description I usually use for that apocalyptic event:

    “scatological remnant striking the overhead oscillator”.

  127. gary says

    Socrates… Natural gold nuggets are really fascinating. They are easily faked also, easier than coin fakes.
    The fakes can be made with processed real gold, some gold, or no gold. They are a no go for me.

  128. bob r says

    Good input Gary…I have never thought of buying nuggets but enjoy remembering the beautiful ones the Golden Nugget Casino had in the late 80’s. I do not know what they have on display today.

  129. bob r says

    @gary One of the most interesting gold nuggets I have seen was on display at the Golden Nugget Casino. It was large, about 3 inches long and 1.5 inches in diameter, It was found in Alaska buy a prospector, who keep it as a good luck piece in his pants pocket for many years. It was interesting how smooth that nugget wore. Maybe they still have it on display there it has been 30 years since I have seen it.

  130. says

    Sith said:
    I know who sleeps the soundest, the person with shares in a utility company. He gets a nice fat dividend from a regulated monopoly, and if the SHTF it will be like holding cash as utility companies stocks represent tangible assets

    Good luck with those Puerto Rican utility stocks and bonds!

  131. Sith says

    @D Rittenhouse – LOL, . FYI the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority – (PREPA) is government owned, enough said…

  132. says

    Sith said:
    @D Rittenhouse – LOL, . FYI the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority – (PREPA) is government owned, enough said…

    Thank goodness they never issued any bonds which might have ended up in anyone’s muni-tax-free bond mutual fund.

  133. gary says

    @Bob r… For a natural gold nugget 3 inches long and 1.5 inches in diameter IS a very impressive gold nugget that Alaskan prospector had in his pants as a lucky charm. A certain part of the prospector’s anatomy matching that description would be much less impressive.
    Here in Maine there are alluvial gold deposits that washed down from Canada when the glaciers receded approx. 10,000 years ago. I’ve panned for them but no luck, only a bit of gold dust. The Maine State Museum has some much smaller natural nuggets on display and a fabulous necklace made by a Maine jewelry artist.

  134. Sith says

    @D Rittenhouse – I get you but so does everyone else “Markets Brace For More Fund Liquidations As Record Outflows Slam Debt Funds.” Your original post did have a point but I have only seen one US electrical company go under and it was due to deregulation. Unregulated and government utilities and are an entirely different animal. Utility companies are not glamorous but when they lose money all they have to do is raise their rates…just ask Californians about their water bill. During the the hyperinflation in the Weimar Republic utility stocks retained their value. Utilities where among the only companies that posted profits continuously through the Great Depression. “For the most part, the demand for electricity is consistent in all economic climates. You can be sure that the utility bill will be paid well before the mortgage or car payment”

  135. KEITHSTER says

    Seems We all might have to take a shot at becoming main jewelry artist’s! As that’s where I think that maybe this hobby is heading? All these wonderful coins we all are collecting will someday be just someone’s bling! A ring or necklace a pin or earring coin bracelet anyone??? Mine will be an FS for sure ! I know a collectors nightmare but hey on the roadshow it’s a favorite and if it had not been made into jewelry it be worth holy —- So get over it and start taking lessons we may need to get the most out of them. So start wearing a few and get this party started”>”>”> Got 4 rolls of the bombays in D from the bank yesterday already have way more than I need but they won’t have the saratogas. And they are the lowest oh and the ring thing!!! And what with the 12 countdowns of Christmas who’s playing who beanheads don’t like to play fair . knock it off!!! Well Good Luck All”>”>”>”>”>

  136. So Krates says

    Seems most were melted (much more than coins) pre-1990 as there was not much else to do with them back then. The tricky part I would think is figuring how much rock is in some of them. While too much rock lowers the value, some have embedded quartz crystal that brings the price way up

    From a nugget seller’s site:

    The larger the gold nugget is, the more rare it is. The following figures are estimates of the number of gold nuggets that exist above 16 grams (approx. 1/2 ounce).

    Above 1000 ounces � 1 or 2
    Above 500 ounces � Fewer than 12
    Above 250 ounces � Fewer than 50
    Above 100 ounces � Fewer than 150
    Above 50 ounces � Fewer than 300
    Above 25 ounces � Fewer than 700
    Above 10 ounces � Fewer than 3,000
    Above 5 ounces � Fewer than 10,000
    Above 2 ounces � Fewer than 50,000
    Above 1 ounce � Fewer than 200,000
    Above 16 grams � Fewer than 750,000

  137. Erik H says

    Crystalline gold is cool too, sometimes you can find it close to spot but otherwise the premium is high.

  138. Larry says

    I have a feeling something will happen and the mint will be allowed to sell the Limited Edition Silver Proof Set in 2016. If not, I wonder what will happen to all the coins they set aside for the sets?

  139. cagcrisp says

    Exactly 2 weeks before New Years Day and no product schedule for 2016. Not even a partial. hmmm…

  140. So Krates says

    @ Gary – Yes, I have a few Australian Nugget coins which feature famous huge nuggets on the reverse. The largest ever found, the “Welcome Stranger” nugget ,weighed in at over 3500 oz. and is depicted on the back of the 1987 $100 coin. See a pic of them pulling it out of the ground in 1869. What a scrappy looking bunch!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_Stranger#/media/File:William_Parker,_Unearthing_the_Welcome_Stranger_Nugget,_H13298_original.jpg

  141. Dave SW FL says

    PMs pretty volitle lately. It’ll be interesting to see if CMF (a measure of money flow into/ out of tradable issues) continues upward as people liquidate for tax loss purposes. A great time of the year for those in the know to take advantage of those dumping losers.
    How low will she go? Hard to tell! But as said before, bears are brutal. They maul the opponent and chew them up. Death by a thousand swipes😢

    At the time of the lows being reached, there may be little PM mint product available. Don’t believe me? Just check out the 2016 product release schedule…….NOT !!!!

  142. So Krates says

    Yeah, Erik H, I see that the crystalline stuff brings large premiums. They are considered specimens and I guess are sought after by mineral and gemstone collectors? I’ve gotta know what I’m looking at before I drop some hard earned FRNs on some rocks. It also seems that (like Jesus appearing on a piece of toast) if you can convince someone that the gold nugget is in the shape of something recognizable then the value skyrockets. This “nuggets in the shape of (insert animal here)” business makes coin TPGs look like choir boys.

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