San Francisco Sets Starting to Ship

The United States Mint has started shipping the 2012 San Francisco Silver Eagle Sets for some early orders placed by collectors.

Sales of the product containing the 2012-S Proof and 2012-S Reverse Proof Silver Eagles initially went on sale June 7, 2012 at 12:00 Noon ET. Orders were only accepted during a four week window ending on July 5, 2012 at 5:00 PM ET.

The last reported order count of 251,302 was posted on the product page on July 6. The US Mint has not provided any updates to the order count. As discussed previously, it is possible that additional units may be added to the total from orders sent by mail which were post marked by the deadline but not yet received or processed. It is also possible that units may be subtracted from the total due to order cancellations and returns. Also, the US Mint has indicated that the sales number is unaudited, “so it is an approximation.”

I placed an order for my set by website on June 7, 2012 around 1:30 PM ET, just after the opening of sales. The Track Order function of the US Mint’s website is now showing my set as shipped on July 27, 2012. Some other readers have also indicated that the status of their order has changed to shipped.

The earliest orders placed should be the earliest orders shipped. Orders placed near the end of the window may ship much later. When sales concluded on July 5, the expected shipping date was indicated as October 31.

Separately, a few sources have confirmed that the 2012-S Reverse Proof Silver Eagle will remain exclusive to the San Francisco Set. It will not be offered for sale individually or within other sets.

As reported previously, the 2012-S Proof Silver Eagle will be included within the Making American History Coin and Currency Set, scheduled for release on August 7, 2012.

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  1. Keith says

    I ordered a set on the first day at 12:35pm and it has shipped. Have a tracking number and everything.

  2. hi ho silver says

    YEE HAW !!!! Looks like max mintage for “S” proof coin will be 301,302 MAX !!!

  3. Richard W says

    Congradulations,my hats off to the mint.Hopefully most will be happy and satisfied with quality and all.I waited until the final days to place an order,good luck to all.I will not be a buyer of the coin and currency set.How many of you got the opportunity to take the mints poll?

  4. hi ho silver says

    Richard W: I took the poll, it was mainly about ordering and shipping methods, without any questions about future products. I gave them high ratings.

  5. hi ho silver says

    Check Coinworld story from 7/24 posted by saucexx,It states MAH sets will be limited to 50,000 sets as per Mint. I think some of ASE sets will be canceled also.

  6. says

    My order of 16 sets was placed at 12:17 on the first day. Mine have not shipped yet.. the Mint is not exactly following the first ordered, first shipped procedure. I wonder if small orders are be shipped before larger orders?

    CC has pending charge though, so I guess they’ll ship soon.

  7. Brad says


    Same here, my order was placed at 12:10 on 6/7 and is still “in process”. There is a pending charge on my credit card also. I’m hoping it changes to “shipped” before the end of the business day.

  8. hi ho silver says

    Relax guys they will go out in one mass shippment later today, my order is marked shipped, but it hasnt left yet, we still got 11 1/2 hours left in the day. 🙂

  9. TomP says

    Steve & Brad,

    Orders under a certain amount ($300?) are not cc checked prior to shipment processing. So single orders could jump in front of previous larger orders due to less processing time. I believe I had not noticed this for other products.

  10. rpw says

    Ordered my set on 6/11 and showed a expected ship date of today.
    Called today and they told me it is backordered and won’t ship till “maybe” 11 Aug.

    I don’t think the mint has changed ANYTHING. Nothing they do or say is set in stone.

  11. hi ho silver says

    You might want to call cc company and check your spending limit for bigger orders, I had to clear it with them last year for a big order and had to call the Mint to reprocess the next day.Keep your eyes on order status if it changes to anything but shipped call the Mint right away.

  12. Shutter says

    Check Coinworld story from 7/24 posted by saucexx,It states MAH sets will be limited to 50,000 sets as per Mint.

    The article contradicts itself. First it says: “The 2012 Making American History Coin and Currency Set is being offered without a maximum mintage or household ordering limits and without a defined cut-off date for sales.”

    But at the end: “The serial number of each of the 50,000 $5 Federal Reserve notes to be included in the 2012 Making American History Coin and Currency set begins with “150.””

  13. hi ho silver says

    EXACTELLY Shutter !! So if BEP only has 50,000 notes, there can only be 50,000 sets. I think BEP did a oops !!

  14. Jeremy says

    As if there weren’t enough of the 25th anniversary ASE coin sets at the local coin shows. Now, I’m sure, I’ll be seeing PLENTY of these available for sale by dealers given there will be 2.5 times more minted. lol

  15. Shutter says

    well, they’ve only had 7 weeks to verify the cc info

    It’s pretty pointless to obtain CC authorization before you’re ready to charge and ship. In 7 weeks your account could become 2 months past due, be cancelled, or maxed out.

  16. Shutter says

    So if BEP only has 50,000 notes, there can only be 50,000 sets.

    If the business with this set has taught us anything, it is that we should not use logic in to decipher what the Mint will do. For all we know, once they finish with “150” fins, they’ll include regular notes. Or not. Or they won’t sell anywhere near 50,000 sets, and it won’t matter. Looking at MAH set page on, there is nothing about any sort of limits.

  17. Jim_D says

    In looking at a $5 bill it would seem that 100,000 would be the true limit:
    15000000-15099999. Just saying…

  18. RLP says

    My 6/7 12:58 PM order showing shipped status with tracking number (without any history at this time). CrCd has transaction in “pending” state. Expect to receive in within a couple of business days due to complimentary shipping upgrade.

    Would have liked to have seen the set include a burnished “S” too, OR the MAH set get a burnished “S” instead of the proof version. BUT..wishing is only that..wishing.

    Will be happy to get my order and hope the quality exceeds expectations!

  19. hi ho silver says

    So where did the author of coinworld come up with 50,000 ?? The story states “each of the 50,000”

  20. Addielise says

    Placed an order for 2 sets at 12:04, card got charged but didn’t get shipped today. Placed an order for 1 set 3 hours later, it did get shipped. Go figure.

  21. John says

    I noticed something on my two orders. One says “on hold” the other says “processing”. Both say “In stock & reserved”. The “on hold” ships to a physical address the other to my POB. So what’s up with “on hold”????

    I know the mint ships out USPS items on Saturdays but what about UPS? If my USP order doesn’t ship today will I have to wait until Monday????

    Both orders were before 1:30P first day.

  22. lillyboots says

    I placed mine on June 8th somewhere around 5 pm for two sets. Yesterday it showed expected ship date Aug. 8th, today shows shipped??? I guess the best guess is anybody’s guess , when they ship – LOL !

  23. kbo says

    I place a order of 13 0n 6/7 at 12:03. one shipped and 12 reserved, c,c. charged. I think they must be shipping out small, may be the single orders today.

  24. John says

    If your order says “on hold” call the mint ASAP. According to the mint there was a problem with my card, according to my card company there was no problem and charge was approved (shows pending).

    The mint had to re-run the card info…. no problem. This is why I order 2 of everything from them and ship to different addresses. The mint is always messing up orders and cancels them for no reason.

    At least one now says shipped even if it’s by snail mail.

  25. hi ho silver says

    John: Tell the CC company you had 2 orders with one total on your card. As I stated before some credit cards have a DAILY limit!! Homeland Security stuff. Mint may have nothing to do with this.

  26. Mike says

    I cancelled several sets today, not pleased with the the adding of a set with the proof coin.

  27. John says

    hi ho silver

    I use different cards because the mint gives problems if you ship to different billing address, I learned that a long time ago, red flags

    no limits on my cards

  28. Brad says

    My order didn’t get marked as “shipped” today. So much for FIFO order processing.

    Regarding the number of Making American History sets possible, it’s about 400,000 based on what’s been printed so far. There have been 4 suffix letter runs that include the “150” starting serial numbers so far. A was in May 2011, B was in June 2011, C was in October 2011 and D was in November 2011. There doesn’t appear to have been any more Series 2009 San Francisco $5 bills printed since then. The link to the page where I got my information is below.

    My guess is the bills used in the sets will come from the “A” run. The first will probably be JL15000001A. I’ve gotten many sealed BEP blocks of bills from banks, and most of the time the “quad 9” and “quad 0” bills are replaced with Star notes, which a lot of times don’t even come from the same district as the bills they replace. So, there probably wasn’t a JL15000000A bill issued. Every bill in the run that would have ended in “9999” or “0000” will probably not be used. So, there likely will be a few missing serial numbers in the run. JL15009999A and JL15010000A would be the first two. However, for a special case like this, the “quads” might be used after all. If I buy any of the MAH sets, I sure would like to receive one of the quad 9 or 0 serial numbers! I don’t think I’ve ever seen one from a block. Not that I mind finding star notes, but I’ve always wondered if the “quads” are ALWAYS replaced?

  29. hi ho silver says

    John I learned a short time ago that cc’s may be denied if shipping and billing address are different. Like I said Homeland Security stuff…… You may be approved tomorrow. I went through this last year. If the Mint re-ran your card again today, you may have to wait untill tomorrow and do it again. Just letting you know what I experienced.

  30. says

    I ordered my sets on 6/07/2012 at 1:16 pm—–FIVE of them! Mint says In stock and reserved. My CC says “pending”. I hope mine ship today—but its getting late in the day. Better luck tomorrow!

  31. hi ho silver says

    UPDATE: Order arrived @ Indanapolis In. FedEx with delivery date of Aug 1. I expect it tomorrow !!!

  32. RLP says

    Origin scan @ Indianapolis 6:07PM. Delivery date: by end of day 7/31 via UPS services with signature required. (destination TX).

    Compliments to the Mint shipping facility staff.

  33. guama says

    mine states “in stock and reserved”..purchased at 2:30 on 6/7/12. We’ll see what happens.

  34. charles says

    hi ho…congrats…but no way will you receive it it tomorrow…but keep us up to date.

    btw, how many sets are in your order?

    it seems that only orders of one set are shipping first.

  35. Shutter says

    how does MINT decide to use UPS or Fedex?
    Normally anything under $300 or sent to PO Box is shipped by FedEx and delivered by USPS (it the deal USP has with FedEx). Everything else should be using UPS 2 day. If you pay for expedited shipping, it’ll go UPS next day.

    $300 threshold applies to the whole order, not individual shipments. Recently I had an order that included DoF set. The whole order was over $300. The DoF set was shipped separately UPS 2 day. It was missing the little fake dogtag. They shipped the replacement dogtag UPS 2 day.

  36. hi ho silver says

    charles :Im hoping tomorrow eve ,but I know Monday. Only ordered 1 with todays ship date, but have more with 10/31 ship date.

  37. auxmike says

    Order Date:06/07/2012 at 06:13 PM, in stock and reserved, cancel button gone but NOT shipped as of 11PM Fri. night…..

  38. MarkInFlorida says

    Homeland security has nothing to do with credit card holds. When Chase declined my $1000 purchase until I phoned them, I cut up the card and now I only use Discover. They never cause problems with ordering gold proof sets or multiple large purchases and they give 1% cash back. If businesses aren’t going to treat us right we shouldn’t give them our business.

  39. Ralph says

    I placed two orders. One for 10 set’s on 7/3 and one for 3 set’s on 7/5. As of this morning, 7/28, both orders say they will ship 7/27, yesterday??? Up until this morning, they were listed as shipping on 9/28 and 10/31. It will be great if they do ship right out.

  40. vaughnster says

    The 10 sets I ordered on July 5th were originally going to ship on October 31st but today have moved to “in process” with a ship date of July 27th. The cancel box is still showing but I’m wondering what caused the dramatic change in ship date. Could it be mass cancellations? BTW, what will the Mint do with all the cancelled and returned sets??

  41. hi ho silver says

    LOL !!! I don’t think some first day orders went out yet. What made you guys go into an order with a shipping date of 10/31 ?? My order also says 7/27 from my July 3rd order, I didn’t expect to get into that till mid October.

  42. Richard W says

    I have two orders for 1each.July2and July4,both say backordered with a ship date of 7/27, moved from 9/28 –10/31.

  43. kyridgerunner says

    Just checked my order status, I orded @ 5:30 pm 7/5 and it says in process expected to ship 7/27, but in the past it has done this and on Monday and every day after the ship date will move to the next day. I ordered 2 sets at different times on the last day so that they will be in different boxes. You never know if the grading companies will change their acceptance of these coins.

  44. Samuel says

    i said before, mint needs to hire some decent IT people!!!

    and usually the status shows “shipped”, and then the CC is charged at the same time.

  45. dan says

    With this being a sold out item, If all 251,000 ship in the first thirty days does that make them all first strike/early release??

  46. guama says

    My first order is in stock and reserved with a ship date of July 27. My last order is July 2 and shipping has moved up to July 27 as well. Maybe a mass cancel of orders due to the MAH sale.

  47. Richard W says

    Could it be possible that the faithful few could be the winners with this S mint reverse proof?

  48. KEITHSTER says

    O the games people play now every night and every day now………….;;;;;”””’???.Weedin out the speculaters maybe?. Two orders 6/7 in stock cc pending will ship soon! button gone. The second order from 6/24 long ago moved up in shipping order also in stock but cancell button still there and no charge pending seems that’s when they remove it.So is it time to push the button??:) Any way good luck to all:)

  49. Mercury says

    So where did the author of coinworld come up with 50,000 ?? The story states “each of the 50,000″

    hi ho silver People Lie! Some better then others. It’s the other part of coin collecting that you unfortunately have to get use to. It all started back in the early 70s when Sales persons realize people would buy property in Florida that doesn’t exist as long as you prefix it with a fancy name like “Rainbow”

  50. John says

    Just checked my two orders on 6/30 that were slated to ship near October. Now says “in process” with “Expected to ship on 07/27′. No C.C. charge yet.

    One order from 6/7 is in the mail, hopefully cancellations and bad cards push the final numbers south of 200k or better yet 150K!

  51. hi ho silver says

    Thats why I like my 10/31 shipping date order. I think we should know more about s proof mintage by early Nov. I don’t want mine to ship untill then.

  52. dave says

    just looked at my status i ordered in the last 10 mins on july 5th, still says being shipped on 7/27 and the cancel box is still there, i wonder why it still says 7/27 shipped ?

  53. Bill B says

    I ordered two sets on the first day of offering, 6/7. The order went through at 2:20 pm EDT. Today 7/28 I checked my order and it still says “in Process”. My credit card has a pending charge. So I have no idea when they will ship!

  54. RLP says

    Just did a status check of SF set orders.
    6/7 order status Shipped, UPS handling, their tracking indicates order is about half way in its journey to TX.

    7/5 order has changed from backordered w/ expected shipping on 10/31 to backordered. Expected to ship on 07/27/2012. However, no CrCd actions.

    The status is messed up or the Mint is readying itself to pull off a “Back to the Future” surprise for customers….!

  55. hi ho silver says

    LOL !!! Your Late/Early orders crack me up !!!! …….OMG !!…. I cant cancel anymore !!!! Whats up with that ?

  56. RLP says

    Just think of it, every order may be eligible for the value enhancing “First Strike” or an “Early Release” label, OR maybe the TPGs will create a new and truthful label befitting the situation, “WKWC” (Who Knows, Who Cares).

  57. T1 browserman says

    UPS 2 day so Tues 7/31 by End of Day since I ordered over $500 on day of offering………..hoping for lots of cancellations/returns since MAH offering increases proof mintage along with the unexpected price correction of silver proof.

    Final Audit hopefully under 300K….better yet under 250K and for the RP 200K(wishful thinking).

    My only beef with this offering is that NOT ONLY should it have been minted to demand BUT ALSO price-based on its actual ship date or in other words and as commonly seen on the website TBD.

  58. saucexx says

    I doubt we’re going to see much in the way of cancellations. My guess is after the mail orders and cancellations are finished we’ll see a small decrease. We may end up with a smaller mintage than the 20th anniversary though, so all wouldn’t be lost. I have several of my own sets I’m considering cancelling so we’ll see…………….

  59. Hidalgo says

    @hi ho silver – if you want to cancel your order, simply pick up the phone and call to cancel you order. It’s that easy.

  60. Ralph says

    It has to be a huge mistake that all orders now have 7/27 as a ship date. I’m sure we will all be very disappointed tromorrow. 🙁

  61. Hidalgo says

    @hi ho silver – I was responding to your post of July 28, 2012 at 8:10 pm. I find it interesting that you would provide such a rude and sarcastic response. LOL.

  62. hi ho silver says

    Im just being an Ahole Hidalgo …….UPDATE: My coins are flying around eastern US since Friday @ midnight !!!! No update on FedEx shipping. lol

  63. T1 browserman says

    Arrived at my local UPS hub….could pick it up tomorrow if I call and tell them to hold……..hungry ???? why wait ????

  64. auxmike says

    Order Date:06/07/2012 at 06:13 PM, in stock and reserved, cancel button gone AND shipped as of 9PM Sun. night!

  65. says

    @auxmike Well, I guess they are NOT shipping out in order! Placed mine on 6/72012 at 1:16 pm and it still says in stock and reserved, cancel button hasn’t been there for some time. CC pending for several days but no ship notice for me!

  66. Brad says

    Me neither! I’ve been checking periodically throughout the day, but nothing yet.

    My later order on July 5 has the 7/27 ship date now, but still backordered. That’s obviously some kind of glitch.

  67. WhoHasMyStuff says

    My shipping information is confusing. Here are the details. Perhaps I’ve missed a detail somewhere. Do you think my order really shipped FedEx?

    1. The 22-digit tracking number on my order summary page links to a fedex tracking page. (I would have expected a USPS tracking number…see #3 below.)

    2. The fedex tracking page indicates that it knows nothing about the 22-digit tracking number.

    3. I expected my order to come usps because I only ordered 1 set, and my credit card only shows a pending charge for the cost of 1 2-coin-set + $4.95.

    4. I received a separate email from USMint-Orders. Listed under Tracking ID in this email are two numbers, an 11-digit number on one line and then on the next line the same 22-digit number that appears on my US Mint order summary page.

    5. I have tried both tracking numbers separately and combined at fedex, UPS, and USPS (all online). UPS said codes do not match typical format. USPS and fedex just say they don’t have info regarding the tracking numbers.

    Other info:I ordered 1 set on 6/8 at 8:49 am. Mint order-shipped email came yesterday (7/29) evening. datestamp =9:28 PM. Both this email and the USMint order summary page seem to indicate my order shipped yesterday (Sunday 7/29). (Maybe the processing folks just assigned a number yesterday.)
    Credit card shows pending charge ($154.90) with transaction date of 7/27.

  68. hi ho silver says

    Just checked my order, still flying around eastern US in a FedEx hub since Sat. @ 12:38 am. LOL !!!! I hope I get it by Aug.15 !!!!

  69. hi ho silver says

    Hey WHO : We didnt qualify for an upgrade in shipping. If you have a tracking # DUH ??

  70. hi ho silver says

    I do believe there will be alot of extra sets for sale after everyone learns a lesson……

  71. simon says


    There is usually a lag between the mint’s website status and the shipping company. The tracking number indicates that the mint has filled out the shipment forms with your info and automatically generated a tracking number but the order has not shipped. Typically I look for an e-mail from the mint which indicates that the package is out their door. Following this try the shippers site with the tracking number and when it shows a response you know that the transfer is complete and the shipper has the package. Also keep in mind that USPS utilizes the FedEx “smartpost” system where FedEx takes care of intra city transit and USPS deals with local delivery.

    Feedback anyone else ?

  72. WhoHasMyStuff says

    Thanks for your response. The information you provided about USPS/fedex partnering on delivery may be just the detail I was missing.

    The USMint email I mentioned in item 4 of my post says in the first line, “We shipped the items listed below today.” (That was yesterday, Sunday 7/29.)

    I am still stymied why that email has 2 different tracking numbers listed, one with 11 digits and one with 22 digits, while my mint account order summary page only shows the 22 digit tracking number.

    Again, thank you for your previous response. I’ll keep checking my tracking number(s) at Fedex and USPS.

  73. Jeff in TX. says

    My set has not left the Fed Ex hub. It got there on Sunday. The mintage for this set may just drop by 1000 sets. Lets go SAN FRAN big collecters item.

  74. simon says


    All mint e-mails usually have a set of machine generated codes,
    including the tracking number.

    However your order page on the mints website will have only the
    correct tracking number with a direct link to the tracking page
    on the shippers site. One thing, to keep in mind, is that with
    smart post the USPS sites tracking info is not active with the
    provided tracking number till the first shipper (FedEx) provides
    USPS the info. This is also true for the UPS-USPS liaison which
    is the same “smartpost” system.

  75. WhoHasMyStuff says


    As of 3:26 Eastern time my tracking# works at Fedex. They indicate that they have received the shipping information.

    Again, thanks for the background info; this is my first online order from the Mint. (I usually make my purchases at their kiosk in downtown DC.)


  76. hi ho silver says

    WhoHasMyStuff ? Im bettin the USPS by now. FedEx had it for a couple days now. Aug 1 delivery date

  77. hi ho silver says

    UM …. Do you know the U S Mint & USPS work for the same people ?? The U S citizens !!

  78. anh says

    Anyone… when you received your coin will you give us an update on how well they packed the coin this time around since we did have a lot of issues with packing on the 25th Ann. set. As for me, my order (the whole two sets) are still pending, no charge on the credit card yet and the cancel box is still there with expected shipped date of 07/27/2012….LOL

  79. T1 browserman says

    My UPS # from the mint’s site states delivery tomorrow by end of day.

    The e-mail I received regarding this AND ONLY THIS order (none received for any other smaller orders I place) shows several shipping companies involved in the movement of the product.

    The primary shipper was USPS —->FedEx—->UPS—->ME.

    I believe USPS is going to merge with FedEx down the line… a postcard from our Post Master stating that regular mail will be delivered in a fluctuating manner in the near future as a result of decreased volume and carrier rotations.

    Soon the excuse that “the check is in the mail” will no longer fly. I’ve been using my checking debit card as that appears to be the quickest method of payment from my ‘WALLET” to their “COFFERS’; perhaps, that is why my order from 6/7 @ 12:51 a.m. will be here sometime tomorrow.

  80. T1 browserman says

    Just heard the USPS is in default to the US Treasury ………..billions !!!!

  81. Ralph says

    I have checked my orders so many times now, I know the order #’s without looking!! LOL

  82. hi ho silver says

    if you wanted to pick it up tomorrow, you should have picked it up TODAY !!!

  83. T1 browserman says

    If I called the UPS hub THEN the package would become MIA so I will go hungry…….

  84. says

    I guess THE MINT got tired of having me check on the status of my order! Mine will be shipping soon! I have a UPS tracking number and it says the order has been processed and ready for UPS.
    UPS says: A UPS shipping label has been created. Once the shipment arrives at our facility, the tracking status-including the scheduled delivery date-will be updated.
    I am looking forward to seeing these little treasures!

  85. Bill B says

    Today I checked my order I placed June 7th at 2:20 pm EDT and now it says my order was shipped by UPS today with tracking number. I should get them by Wednesday or Thursday! Yaw Hoo!
    My order I placed July 4th says expected shipment July 27th. That’s not going to happen! That ok! I can wait awhile!

  86. WhoHasMyStuff says

    I think my 2 coin set was minted in Indianapolis. (For those who need explicit interpretation, I don’t mean that seriously.)

    My fedex tracking info shows a 3:04pm date stamp today for “Shipment Info sent to FedEx.”

    Then, there is a 4:08pm date stamp for “Arrived at FedEx location” which is listed as “FEDEX SMARTPOST INDIANAPOLIS, IN”.

    Clearly, I’ve been left out of the loop on something. (My order surely couldn’t have traveled from San Francisco to Indianapolis in 1 hour and 4 minutes for $4.95 in shipping.) I’m not complaining; Indianapolis is a lot closer to me than San Francisco is.


  87. DCDave says

    Am I missing something, or are the posters a little too obsessed about the San Fran set shipping? They will arive when they will arrive, and sit for years wherever you decide to keep them!

  88. 64USMarine says

    It’s been my experience that dealing with the mint is, If it’s coming to you fedex and USPS you only purchased one set, which will take a little longer to get to you. Now if you bought more than one set, it will ship out by UPS and you will get it in two days. That has been my my experience with them. My two sets are shipping today by UPS. I hope everyone is satisfied with there sets, I know I will be…….

  89. hi ho silver says

    @ DCDave : Now it would be in hand & ready to ship per EBay……..GET IT ? I do…….

  90. Shutter says

    The Mint always ships from Indianopolis regardless of where the stuff was minted or manufactured.

  91. gumbyen says

    Two separate orders placed within minutes of each other. The one for 4 units should be here tomorrow. The one for 2 was only $299.90 so fell short of the $300 figure the US mint used for a free shipping upgrade. A dime….

  92. 64USMarine says

    gumbyen, not to worry. The 299.90 will go out as a two day deliverly with UPS.

  93. John says

    Has anybody notice a lack of “shipment confirmation” email being sent?

    I have two sets shipped (1 Friday & 1 today). I never received any emails from the mint. Usually they notify you but I had to keep checking the site for updates.

  94. ClevelandRocks says

    Don’t stay up too late waiting for Santa.
    I haven’t moved on from feeling tricked by The Mint about the next limited issue proof S ASE.

    Looks like a price increase for all of you sitting on the fence about the 2011 gold buffalo, you may not get a chance to buy the 2011 Buf from the Mint again at this price for a few years….

    I heard a rumor that in 2015, The Mint will be offering the 2008 fractional buffalos including the one ounce for the “B&B” 20th anniversary/ 7th anniversary (Baseball and Buffalo) set. You get the Buff sets and an original 1995 Jackie Robinson UNC coin. They will even mint more 95 Robinsons or 08 Buffs if needed. Can’t wait!

  95. Larry says

    Originally my order was supposed to ship 9/22. Just looked on the mint’s website, and it says expected to ship 7/22! What the heck?

  96. Jack says

    I’ve got a delivery day from UPS showing scheduled delivery of the 2 coin San Francisco set should occur on 8/1/2012. Also got an email today from the USmint stating they’ve been shipped. I’d only ordered 3 sets.

    btw, I just think that the USmint ought to refund back to customers who purchased these 2 coin sets a small portion (at least) of each purchase, to refund for the apparent overpricing of the premium charged for these coin sets since they had already in their pipelines the deal with the BEP to produce the Making American History sets. When the price was announced some folks though that the price was a little too high, but then again, with the sets only selling during a restricted period of time, maybe the mintage might be low enough and they would be rewarded with the fairly high price tag. What a bummer to learn that they’d decided then to take a big dump on us after they had flushed the toilet. It just makes me more reluctant than ever to use their big government bathroom again. I hope they air out the mint before I decide to use it again.

  97. Brad says


    Yes, the gold coin prices will increase tomorrow unless the spot price tanks enough to make the pm fix below $1,600.

  98. HowardT says

    I have never posted here but I wanted to see if this happens to anybody else when dealing with the US Mint. In back in June I ordered a 2012 ASE proof for a graduation gift- we were invited to the party and I wanted to have it with me of course, so I paid the fee for NEXT DAY UPS and the Mint shipped it 2nd Day Air (their complimentary service) and it missed the party. This is hugely less expensive for them to do- given the volume they ship over many orders- it is “shaving” on the shipping. I called to get an explanation – I figured it was an anomaly- and CS didn’t really understand the difference. I was promised a refund by a supervisor and never got it. Yesterday my SF proof set was shipped. I paid for EXPEDITED which is NEXT DAY AIR- again…and it was shipped 2nd day again. It was shipped 7/30 and will arrive tomorrow UPS 2nd Day Air. I thought about it and couldn’t let it slide so I called customer service and got a very testy (bad morning?) person who seemed to be very defensive and accused me of accusing them of ripping me off- which was not in any way how I presented it. I just asked for an explanation. We went round and round. She said- SIR, we do not ship OVERNIGHT we ship NEXT DAY- and I said it was shipped on 7/30- WHEN IS THE NEXT DAY? And flustered she got a supervisor- came back on the line- said I would get a refund check in the mail- and hung up on me. This is a possible scheme having happened twice- to shave the shipping fees by charging for one service- the best courier service available- and using a cheaper service. And hoping it slides by? Has anybody noticed this happening to them? This set- it doesn’t matter at all to me if today or tomorrow. The first time it caused an embarrassing issue- and because I paid for something I didn’t get and they argued about it like they thought I should have just been happy they used UPS, and they promised a refund I never got. Having happened twice now- in consecutive orders- I’m pissed. Thanks for listening. There is a huge difference between NEXT DAY and 2nd DAY AIR both in service and in cost to them multiplied by their volume- and sometimes it makes a difference to the customer- if not them.

  99. K bo says

    Steve, Brad on the 13 S.F sets i ordered on 6/7 @12:03. one set will be here by the in of the day.Well they shipped the other 12 today, i don.t know why they shipped them like this, Good Luck to all.

  100. stephen m. says

    I ordered my 2 coin SF set at 1220 on the opening day and it hasn’t shipped nor do i think any orders may have been shipped?

  101. simon says


    The fault lies with PBGS not the mint. You spoke to a PBGS rep, and they are the ones who axed the next day service which used to be the norm for expedited delivery. They really need to clarify what they mean by expedited. I generally do not worry much about delivery. The Au products seem to get here 2-day while the Ag product delivery depends on the order total ( $ 400 is the new cut off ). For example I made an order for a single 5 Oz ATB and it arrived by USPS-FedEX-smartpost. That said I think rudeness on the phone by the rep is totally uncalled for and you should file a report directly to the Mint about these issues ( Michael White Office of Public Affairs 1 (202) 354-7222 .)

  102. hi ho silver says

    My delevery date changed from Aug 1 to Aug 3……. Right now its sittin in WV.

  103. HowardT says


    Much appreciated. I think I will do that. And like you, I don’t worry much about delivery other than the Air Service (I am in the forwarding business) is far more reliable claims-wise than the Smart Post method-fewer hands on the box and nothing against Fed X but they all lose things from time to time. But that ONE time I used the top service because I needed it next day and was promised a refund I didn’t receive….. The web site and FAQs explain the difference. I appreciate the phone number – and clarification on Pitney Bowes GS vs the actual Mint. Had no idea. It has been worth it for just that! (but I am making the call) thx-ht

  104. says

    UPS has delivered my 2 sets, open one, beautiful coins the other will stay in OGP.

    Simon….I do agree the problems are at PBGS I have complain to the Mint and of course “We will check out your complaint.”

  105. kbo says

    I ordered 13 S.F.sets on 6/7 at 12:03, they shipped just 1 set on the 27th it has just been delivered. The other 12 sets was shipped today. i have no clue why they shipped in 2 different days, out with the FIFO.

  106. DCDave says

    2012 AMERICAN BUFFALO GOLD PROOF COIN 13,240 total, 197 past week

    2011 AMERICAN BUFFALO GOLD PROOF COIN 27,216 total, 346 past week

    Looks like last years proof buffalo gold sold a lot more than this years. Seems strange and unusual to me.

    Michael, do you think these numbers are correct (did they reverse them when reporting), and any thoughts about them? I was thinking about buying a 2012, but worried they may be left up for sale for years.

    Due to get a price increase tomorrow, but may be short lived…

  107. Mint News Blog says

    I think these numbers are correct. The US Mint provides the cumulative sales totals (which they have on occasion reversed). I calculate the weekly changes.

  108. Jon in CT says

    This may have been discussed before, but I just noticed the Mint’s information page on the Making American History Coin and Currency set at seems to have changed since I first looked at it. It’s Order Information section now reads:

    Initial production of the Making American History Set is 50,000 sets. The established production limit for this product is no more than 100,000 units, based on the availability of the Series 2009 $5 notes that begin serialization with the number “150.”

  109. stephen m. says

    I stand corrected. People are receiving their orders. Delivered in hand. FIFO?

  110. anh says

    I don’t know about anyone but my order for 5 sets on 6/7/ @ 4:30pm has not been shipped yet.. :(. Can anyone let me know if your order date/time is later than mine and has already shipped?

  111. CW says

    I would love to see some better pictures of the coins in hand. The mint’s photo is terrible. It looks like some people have gotten theirs. Congrats.

  112. Tim says

    Mine shows it is in “initiated” status as of yesterday am on FedEx web site. Still has not been picked up. I did get the Mint email. I have had a lot of orders to get picked up by FedEx the same day usually. Very large glut to work through I bet. 1 set only ordered 6/10.

  113. John says

    I have to say this is the fastest that the USPS has shipped me a priority mail package, nice sets in hand! No coins out of the capsules like the 25th Anniversary Sets.

  114. T1 browserman says

    @hi ho silver

    Received 6:27pm …….still using corrugated boxes and paper.

    This set came in:
    1) plastic bag
    2) outer sleeve
    3) box
    4) remove box top and one end of box bends down
    5) dust protector similar to the 2009 UHR double eagle
    6) heavy acrylic container
    7) felt cushion protector covers both eagles
    8) both coins are held in a double coin holder allowing for obverse/reverse view without removing the capsules individually
    9) beneath the holder of the coins is the COA and a couple of silica gel packs
    10) also received 3 ad inserts; one for 2012 uncirculated, one for silver & gold eagles (silver eagle priced at $59.95) and one for silver proof set.

    All those that ordered should be well pleased by the elaborate presentation case.

    Also explains the $150 price tag.

    I gave both coins the once over and I am giving both a 70 grade……pretty nice of me eh ?

  115. simon says

    T1 : Attaboy !

    Re : I gave both coins the once over and I am giving both a 70 grade

  116. says

    Congrats to those of you that have received your sets…I’ve seen some actual pics on ebay & they look nice!

    My order for 16 sets placed at 12:17 on 6/7 still has not shipped. I just called the Mint and they said the CC was processed 7/27 and my shipment is being packed…lol…..sorta like “your check is in the mail”

    I also have 4 other orders…one with original 9/28 ship date and 3 with 10/31.
    The Mint rep. said PBGS is aware of all these orders now showing a 7/27 ship date, and they will correct it soon.

    Has anyone sent any of their coins in to be graded?

  117. Shutter says

    My order for 16 sets placed at 12:17 on 6/7 still has not shipped.

    My order for 10 was placed 06/07/2012 at 05:01 PM. So when the mint says: When a product is in a backorder status, as inventory becomes available it is assigned to the oldest orders first., that’s not strictly true.

    One curious thing. The UPS tracking page claims that the package weighs 14 lbs. That seems a tad too much.

  118. T1 browserman says

    my 1 set is labeled 2 pounds but on the UPS site it’s stated 1.6 lbs. My Hobart meat scale weighs the set in at a little over 1 1/4 lbs.

  119. RLP says

    Received 6/7 12:58pm order shipped on 7/27 via UPS today at 6:11 PM. Christmas in July….!

    When mentioning the seemingly incomprehensible shipping situation remember the last two letters of PBGS stand for Government Services, who’s inventory system may use FISH (First In, Still Here) instead of FIFO or LIFO..!

  120. Lillyboots says

    Ordered mine the second day around noon, received Tuesday about 2pm. The One I opened is Really Beautiful !!

  121. Bill B says

    I checked tracking this morning! UPS says out for delivery at 8:00 am. I should get mine today! Yea!!!!

  122. Dolores says

    I ordered my sets on the last day. My shipping was estimated to be in October … I checked the online tracking and it states my shipping date as 7/27, it must be a mistake but I’m hoping. I spoke to the US Mint and the gentleman said the reason for the October date was because the Mint was short on presentation boxes and had to order 100,000 more to satisfy the 250,000 orders.

  123. george glazener says

    I rcvd (2) sets via UPS this morning at 11am.
    My 3rd set, ordered separately, is due next Monday via FEDEX.

  124. Jus-a-coin-luvr says

    Got my two sets today and opened one up to see the coins. My first reaction was sweeeeeet!! After all the discussion about mintage, whether it was a good investment, etc, etc, I have to say that if you didn’t order this, you missed out. Beautiful presentation case, but the stars of the show are the two coins. Stunningly beautiful!

  125. mrbeeg says

    Two sets arrived today and I decided to peek at one of them. This is the WORST-QUALITY reverse proof that I have ever seen. Gouges and defects in the frosted areas (both sides) that are so large that I though it must be on the surface of the plastic capsule. It’s not.

    Opened up the other set, and SAME THING! Except this one also has a few flakes of green plastic floating around in the capsule. And the regular proof capsule fell open as soon as I touched it.

    It breaks my heart, but I have to send these back. I hope the mint has sets on-hand for replacement, but I’m not expecting good news.

    This is the final straw for me and the US Mint. Lately I have been sending back too many sets (of all types) for quality issues, and now I’m done. 2012 is where my ASE and modern commemerative collection will stop.

  126. mrbeeg says

    Just talked to the mint, and they DO have replacement sets availabile. And I wasn’t the first person to ask this representative today. I guess I’ll roll the dice again and hope for better.

    You might want to examine your sets when they arrive… Good Luck!

  127. stephen m. says

    mrbeeg, Not too many people that i’ve seen here have made any comments on the way the sets look. If not mistaken yours is the first going back for a replacement. Better luck on the next two.

  128. says

    Got my FIVE sets today and and they look beautiful—as far as I am concerned all PROOF 70’s! Have them out for the rest of the family to “gaze” at! Got mine in the afternoon around 3 pm—-seemed like a long day of waiting but I was so happy to get them. Got 5 of the 25th Anniversary Sets last year also.

  129. guama says

    mine came today and it’s still sitting on the fedex truck (I wasn’t home to sign) sigh…the truck will make a second attempt to deliver tomorrow. Somewhere between 2 & 5…I get out of work at 4:00. I am hoping to get them tomorrow:(

  130. Bill B says

    I anxiously waited and waited for silver eagle sets to come. Then at 2:41 PM a knock at the door, UPS. I signed for them. Now will inspect them for any damage!
    I am impressed, saw no damage! They are gorgeous! Inspected them with a magnifying glass from different angles. Can’t complain about these sets. I hope my others still coming, are as nice!
    My only complaint – Not much packing material. The top set had no packing material to prevent it from sliding around in the box. I liked it better when they used the large bubble bags. They were better protected, and did not move!

  131. Jack says

    Just wondering … I received my 3 sets today and they are still boxed. I’ve never had any coins graded yet, I’m still new at this and I’m wondering for these 3 San Francisco sets:
    1) Is it worth having them graded? (I’ve never yet sold any coins I’ve purchased over the past twenty years from the US Mint.
    2) How much might it cost to have 3 sets graded?
    3) Should I open up the shipping box or keep it sealed if I’m going to have them graded?
    4) What’s the best grading agency in your opinion(s).

    I’d appreciate any help you folks can give me. This blog along with it’s associated web site appear to be terrific sources of coin knowledge for current as well as some past coin issues.

  132. simon says

    Jack this is just my very very personal 2 cents : depends on if you want to flip or keep. If you plan to flip, then grade and sell right away, betting on achieving the high 70 grade. Most 69 and lower grade flips are a waste of time and money since they typically sell for less than the mints price. If you want to keep, I would recommend keeping in their mint sealed shipping boxes (unopened). You can always open one single box to admire. In my experience USMint coins stay longest and freshest in this format. I had some coins for over 15 ( yes fifteen ) years in mint packaging and nothing happened to them. I personally believe that you should never grade coins which you plan to keep in your collection. These are best in OGP and please make sure to save the COA, cases, and the original sales receipt. I have had problems particularly with PCGS encapsulation which results in “milk spots” on silver coins and lacquer on gold. This may not happen right away but is a long term concern.

  133. Jack says

    Thanks Simon … sounds like some good advice. Maybe I’ll continue to keep them all and give them to my kids. Tomorrow I’ll probably go ahead and just open the outer shipping box to inspect just one set. They all came in one box on one order.

    However if I plan on somehow changing my mind and decide to have them graded, I just might keep them in this original shipping box so the plain S proof coin is not confused from being shipping within the next batch of “special releases” like being included within the Making American History set. I understand that with the issuance of the 25th Anniversary Silver Eagle coins, grading companies were asking coin shippers to leave their coins sealed within the original shipping cartons.

  134. Jus-a-coin-luvr says

    I understand the notion of keeping a set in it’s original UPS shipping box sealed. But just from the defects reported above, I’d not want to realize I had a defective set years down the road when it’s too late to do anything about it. This is also why I would not buy coins or sets that are sold that way.

    While it may seem appealing to some to buy coins that are still in the US Mint’s UPS box (unopened), to me that is a risky purchase. If the coins in such a transaction are flawed, who is gonna get you that replacement set? It may just be me, but I’d open and inspect every single set to make sure that I had sets that were marketable rather than potentially flawed with no recourse down the road.

  135. Bill B says

    To: Jus-a-coin-luvr,
    I was going to leave my second shipment of coins unopened, but you make a lot of sense about opening the box and inspect the coins for damage. Years down the road you may be stuck with damaged coins you will not be able to sell as easy if you decide to do so!

  136. K bo says

    I know people on places like ebay pay more money for coins in sealed shipping box’s. they do that because they will know the coin’s were not cherry pick.

  137. Junior says

    I just finished inspecting my shipment of 2 sets. The reverse proofs definitely have some quality defects. One is a bit better than the other. Both proofs look satisfactory.
    Now my dilemma is to keep them or return them and hope the US Mint sends better quality replacements or get a refund. I am a collector and I am not looking to flip. My other concern is that the Mint will just replace what is returned with another set that was returned for similar quality issues. I do have a third set on order.

  138. Jeff in TX. says

    I got my set and they look stunning. Great to have for my eagle collection. Does anyone no when the eagle program ends, I thought it was in 2021. Can’t find anymore info. This set is a keeper its value will increase to me. Today I’m ordering the UNC. “W” can’t wait for that too

  139. Don says

    I had a defect in the regular proof coin in one of my sets. There was a dull streak in the mirrored field inside the rays. My thinking is that if a coin does not look perfect to your naked eye, send it back.
    It went back to Indy yesterday and I will await a replacement sent. The rep on the phone said I should receive one within a couple weeks. I’ll see.

  140. Art says

    Every time I receive stuff from the Mint, I brace myself for quality problems. The Mint set coins have bag marks, the president slab in proof sets are borderline disgraceful, and various other coins are hit or miss. I’m much more selective about what I order. At the same time, the Mint’s is seeing its business dwindle, and apparently don’t want to do anything about it. They can’t be clueless with all of the returns that they get.

  141. Jack says

    Ouuuuuuu laah laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. I was not going to let curiosity do away with another one of my cats today so I opened the box and surprise, no damage to the lacquer boxes or coins within. I guess the outer shipping box took a little hit from delivery. After opening a box I had a hard time prying the plastic capsules from their snug fitting. I wish the Mint would instruct the box maker to include some sort of single finger recess for easy release of these capsules. Coins themselves look perfect with no visible marks at all. US Mint still needs to place a permanent cap on each coin mintages in order for collectors to quantify and justify the value of each coin. I wish the Mint would place a tiny bit more thought in coin packaging. I especially enjoy the wood lacquered boxes holding the pure gold presidential First Spouse coins.

  142. says

    After reading all the post on the sets received I checked a second time on the one that I opened with my 2x magnifier and again found no nicks or marks but both coins are beauties, especially the RP and yes I would purchase any UHR that is RP. Good Luck to everyone hope yours comes out OK

  143. mookem says

    The mint is on the ball this week! My order from 6/24 shipped today UPS. That is much quicker than I expected.

  144. hi ho silver says

    AWFUL !!!!! Small black blotch on proof coin under mint mark. Hairline scratches (4) on shield and another black blotch on rim of reverse proof @ 2:00… Only used a 10X triplet ,but I didn’t even need that.

  145. hi ho silver says

    4 scratched and rim spot are on the poof ,and spot under mint mark is RP.They will go back, I stoped when I found these and didnt bother loking further.

  146. guama says

    6/22 order on its way. 7/2 order back to end id September. That’s wilily give my cc a break:)

  147. Samuel says

    just got the 6/7 order, did not open the box yet. the funny thing is that, the UPS guy who deliveries this box is the same guy who delivered the 25th set. he is not the regular guy who deliveries in my area. I only saw him twice, the 25th and this set.

  148. Auxmike says

    My First day order arrived in perfect condition! I only bought one set though:(
    The presentation is magnificent. The OGP makes me wonder why one would bother with with an ugly slab. This set was well worth the price and I’m glad I’m in the first batch of shipments. Nice job, mint! Mine went out FedEx and was then delivered via postal service , no signature was required.

  149. Paul says

    Mr beeg, are you trying to get everyone to open their sets, to minimize the number of FS or ER’s? Now that the mint is putting out the MAH sets, the S proof is being devalued. It seems you are the only one to have a bad set. If people open their sets, NGC and PCGS will not grade them as anniversary sets. Must be a dealer with lots of sets to get graded, and can see the value going down the tubes.

  150. WhoHasMyStuff says

    My one set ordered on 6/8 arrived today in D.C. and I’m delighted with it.

    My order came Smartpost. Started with Fedex on July 30. Arrived in Wash., D.C. 8/2 and delivered to me same day.

  151. Don says

    I agree with a previous poster in that you should open the shipping box and inspect the coins for defects. The Mint only gives you 7 days to return damaged coins and they strongly recommend sending them back by insured mail. If just one coin has a defect you still need to send back the entire set.
    If you are a flipper, and are selling your set(s) on ebay in the unopened shipping boxes, the purchaser of your set would be left holding the bag if he received a defective product from you. Yes, it is risky on the part of both the seller and buyer to do business this way. I strongly believe that the set should be kept in the beautiful OGP if you are keeping it. But, if I was selling the set on ebay, I would get it graded to protect both myself and the buyer.

  152. guama says

    my 2 sets came today. One of the boxes was a bit dented. My dilemma is the coins are nice. On the other set, one of the lenses has a small scratch on it. The coin is perfect. I am keeping these for my collection. My thought process is the coins are beautiful. I could ship them back and the boxes would be great, but the coins would be scratched, or marred. Any opinions?

  153. says

    @ Jack——to get the coins loose just lift the coin plate up. The plate is where the two coins sit. Then you can push each coin capsule out from the back of the plate. To get the plate loose from the box—put a finger between the two coins—bottom of the plate. The whole plate then comes up easily and then you can also sit the whole plate back angled in the box to display them. I am not sure that what I am calling “the plate” is called that—BUT hope it helps! If someone else knows what that is called other than “a plate”—you can correct me, please!

  154. says

    @ Jack Forgot to say——when you place your finger between the two coins—bottom of plate—-you have to gently PUSH on it! Then it pops up easily!

  155. Junior says

    I have some questions and I hope they are relevant. What does the US Mint do with returned items? Are they destroyed or repackaged and sold again? Do they ever mint a new coin(s) to replace a damaged coin(s) (sort of like star serial numbers on notes)? Thanks in advance.

  156. Shutter says

    I could ship them back and the boxes would be great, but the coins would be scratched, or marred. Any opinions?

    If you have no problems with the coins, do noting. Shipping a set insured will end costing you close to half of what it would cost to replace OGP from MCM or someone else selling these. If it’s only the outer cardboard box or sleeve that’s damaged, who cares? They are only there to protect the lacquered box inside. As for capsules, you should keep a bunch of spares anyway just for such situations. Whenever I chose to send to send coins for grading, I always ask for capsules to be returned.

  157. Don says

    If you have to send a set back to the Mint insured, you will get reimbursed for the total shipping charge. Send the U.S. Postal receipt, in a separate mailing envelope, to Customer Service at the Plainfield, IN address. Do not send the receipt in the box with the returned set. This is what a customer rep instructed me to do.

  158. RLP says

    It is wonderful to have one’s expectations exceeded…!

    All the set packaging was in perfect condition, no mars, dents, smudges or scratches anywhere. Capsules were problem free aside from a bit dust the static attracted and little loose in fit.

    Carefully studied the coins I received (5x up to 14X) and observed nothing that I believe would prevent the coins receiving a PF70 Ultra Cameo from NGC. All the surfaces are appropriately mirrored and/or frosted where they should be. Strikes are crisp and sharp in details,

    Excellent product…very pleased with the quality, hope my later order is as good.

  159. Shutter says

    You’re probably right. Still if it’s only the cardboard box and capsule that have a problem, I wouldn’t be bothered.

    Incidentally, I received my sets. The only problem I found in the initial (very cursory) inspection is that one set contained 2 COAs. In the past I’ve had a few missing, but this is a first.

  160. Samuel says

    just opened the box, 5 sets, on one RP, there are about 10 tiny shiny marks on the frosty background, longest is about 1mm.

  161. hi ho silver says

    I would have taken my set to my friend a dealer and got a 2nd opinion if I didn’t find any flaws myself. He would be glad to do it.

  162. stephen m. says

    Coin Vault had the sets on tv last night in OGP for 33% mark up. Not a bad return on their money for a short time span.

  163. george glazener says

    They were selling the sets for $289.95. That’s nearly double. But they did get them slabbed and graded as usual. Did you see the photo they showed of their warehouse when their 12 pallets arrived? They must have ordered nearly 1000 of these sets. Gotta love capitalism..!!

  164. Drew says

    Ordered on 6/8 and got my first 3 sets via UPS yesterday. Sets look beautiful. Very pleased. I will give a couple away as gifts and keep the others for myself and a couple for my kids. I hope they get as much of a kick out of coins as I do. I just get the eye-roll from my wife when she sees me or hears me talking about my coins. Good thing is that she is a “bean-counter” and understands how great of an investment they have been for my family so I always get the green-light. 🙂

  165. Natatack says

    Got two sets of two yesterday. One coin had carbon spot in field, one black spot on breast, one small pit on mirrored surface, water spots on field on another, other problems like chips off the frosting, scuffs on the rim,expected better on a $150 set of two.

  166. Samuel says

    if u only buy 1 or 2 sets, u have a better chance to get good sets. if you buy more, it is 100% sure you will get some bad ones. i bought 5 sets, i can only find 2 sets problem free with my naked eyes. for the proof, u will see milky spot kind of thing, for RP, u will see tiny scratches. The RP quality is bad, worse than perthmint BU dragon.

  167. Frankie says

    My two orders from Jul04 and Jul05 initially showed as Oct31, then Jul27 and now back as Oct31 for an estimated ship date. Has anyone had similar experiences?
    I read on another forum that the Mint had to order an extra 100000 boxes which may explain the long wait for those who ordered late. Some who ordered mid Jun get their orders now, whereas those who ordered two weeks later have to wait another 2+ months… Doesn’t make sense to me.
    Does anyone know more about this?

  168. DDD says

    My order placed on 6/26 shipped today. There were approx 150,000 sets ordered prior to mine – must have been mass cancellations or the mint in on the ball shipping.

  169. simon says

    Drrew : understands how great of an investment they have been for my family

    I agree completely. I’ve been very happy to see my USMint coins appreciate in value as I continue to enjoy their appeal.

  170. stephen m. says

    George, i saw the picture of 7 pallets. Mr. Chambers said that was over 4000 coins. Looked impressive to me and Robert was proud as a peacock. I still don’t understand why people buy from tv when they can buy from the mint unless tv sells quiet a lot to impulse buyers. I got a set from the mint and a NGC trolly label 70 set from MCM when they ran a 11/2 day special for 229.00. MCM said shipment to be on 8-8-12. It pays to shop for the bargain. Why do you sound familiar to me?

  171. hi ho silver says

    Just checked all my 2011 25th ann. sets again and found nothing close to the flaws I discovered in the 75th set I just recieved !!! The Mint needs to get on the ball with QC !!!! Will return it tomorrow !!!

  172. James says

    I ordered one set mainly for the RP. The RP has a few scratches on it. I know I can send it back but what if the next one has more scratches? If these were minted to order, how can they replace all the ones being sent back? Are there going to be enough cancellations to supply all the returns? The girl at the mint said it is possible if I send them back I might wind up getting a refund instead of a replacement. I decided to keep them even with the few scratches. I think it might be better to have a RP with a few scratches than to have none. I guess you have to order several sets and hope that one set is without damage. I think thats about it for me ording from the mint. The girl at the mint said she has had several complaints about the quality and she was told to send an e-mail to her supervisor whenever she gets a complaint. That is not going to help me.

  173. Tim says

    My 1 set arrived today flawless/perfect unlike my 2 2011 RP. 2 sets of those have issues with scratches that look like parts of the frosted field areas on the mirror areas.

  174. Mike says

    I received my sets yesterday every single coin had marks, dings, either front or back an visible with the naked eye. I sent them back today. Disgusted at the quality.

  175. NaplesMike says

    Well, after 3 attempts my first order of 2 sets arrived today. I’ll keep them in the sealed box and sell them at some point in the future, as the market dictates. I am also waiting for a graded 70 early release set that I bought from mcm when the price was $229 and my final set that I ordered from the mint on the last day. That set will be opened and displayed with the rest of my collection. Overall, I’m pleased with the process of this release, but I still don’t understand the need for the mint to put up the counter. The ordering window was a good idea because everyone who wanted a set had ample opportunity to get one, however, the counter seemed to me to be some sort of scheme by the mint to manipulate sales. I’m curious what the final mintage would have been had there not been a running tally of orders placed. Just my 2 cents.

  176. Don says

    With the number of posters reporting problems with the sets they received, you may want to reconsider keeping those 2 sets in the sealed box. Remember, the Mint only gives you 7 days to return damaged sets. You’ll probably be wise to inspect the sets before its too late. But, of course, it is your decision.

  177. DJ Jones says

    I ordered 2 sets first day and they have shipped and UPS has made 2 trips out to my house at 10 am to deliver, which has to be signed for in person.I am a regular working person that has 2 work at least 5 days a week to pay for things like this.I work a block from the UPS cargo office and they said I would have to wait until they try and deliver too my house 3 times, on the 4th day I can go to the cargo facility and then get my package.Do they think people don’t work . Most are not home until after 5.Fed-ex will at least deliver on Saturday but they only use them for things under 300.00.It will take me 1 week to finally get my coins by 2nd day air!! So anyways just venting sorry!

  178. Samuel says

    seems the $229 70 set is a steal. i tried to calculate the cost for NGC, above $30 apiece.

  179. NaplesMike says

    Thanks for the advice Don. I’m relatively new to coin collecting, but I’m also a bit of a gambling man. I’ve been watching what the 2006 anniversary sets are selling for in sealed mint packaging. My thinking is this…if there are lots of quality issues with the San Fran sets there may be fewer sets that grade at 70, therefore putting a premium on those sets. One may be willing to pay a bit more in the future for the opportunity to purchase sets that haven’t been cherry picked. Lets say that 5 years from now I’m only able to sell the 2 sealed sets for what I paid for them ($300). That same $300 in a typical savings account would only yield about $15. In my opinion, the opportunity is there to make more than $15 by holding these for a while. This is purely speculative on my part, but I think the risk is low.
    My current interest is in the ASE line of products. In the last few years I’ve managed to assemble all of the anniversary issues in OGP and 70 grades. I have no plans to sell these. I am also focusing on the burnished “W” ASE’s. I have all issues in MS70 and OGP for my personal collection.
    Further speculation on my behalf has me thinking that the opportunity for the 2011 W ASE to replace the 2006 W as the new key in the series exists. For that reason I’ve been purchasing a steady stream of these from the mint. I’m curious about your thoughts, or anyone else’s thoughts on this “strategy” Thanks.

  180. says

    My 16 sets are the worse I’ve ever received from the Mint…usually, I have no issues.
    Of the 16 regular proofs, 7have spots or scratches.
    Five of the reverse proofs have the exact same marking on the reverse…is that a die problem?…I mean EXACTLY in the same place.

  181. says

    Dang, I’m going thru these coins a second and third time tomorrow just so I’m consistant in what I’m seeing, but good gosh…a fingerprint on the proof coin is gonna be there no matter how many times I look at it.

  182. Hidalgo says

    I received my two SF ASE sets today. They are beautiful. When the US Mint sent its survey to the public, it’s clear that they listened. The packaging for my two sets is fantastic. And the two coins look fine.

    From the above comments, it seems folks are finding coins with milky spots, scratches, etc. Is everyone looking at the coins with a magnifying glass, hoping to get a perfect MS70 coin? From the naked eye, my coins look beautiful.

  183. stephen m. says

    Steve, It sounds like your 16 are a big disappoitment. I’ve followed your comments and am curious as to how you come out. Of 16 sets how many returned, how many sent for gradeing and what grades your coins receive? I hope you can still make a little$ and manage to keep a set or two for yourself. Good luck! Some gotta win and some gotta lose but i admire your efforts. I still may cancel some or all of the three sets i ordered in the last hour of sales as i’m becoming more and more covinced that i will get someone elses rejects.

  184. hi ho silver says

    If I see a spot with my 1.75 reading glasses I use a 4x and 10x to see if it is on the coin or capsule my eyes are not as good with anything that small. I saw the rim spot and determined it was on the rim with a 10x. Hope that helps you out.

  185. Don says

    hi ho silver,
    Another option to see if the spot is on the capsule or coin is to carefully open up the capsule to expose the coin. This is the method I used to verify the spot was on the proof that I received.

  186. hi ho silver says

    Thanks Don ! I spin the coin and look for a shadow. Kinda hard with the rim but its too late now. My proof was a very weak strike. Will keep in OGP and quality still counts 🙂

  187. rpw says

    Just got my 2 sets today. I was quite concerned about the quality after all the comments but I have to say – I must have gotten lucky. All 4 coins should grade as 70’s. Using a 16X loupe I don’t see any flaws.

    Has anyone gotten theirs graded yet and received them back? Just wondering because if the grading companies (NGC) use the same size slabs as the slabs from the 25th Anniversary set coins, they DO NOT FIT in the San Francisco 75th OGP Blue Lacquer Display box. All 5 slabbed coins in My 25th Anniversary Set fit in the OGP Display Box comfortably and allow you to close the lid. Those same slabs are too big for the 75th Box because it is a little more narrow/shallow.

  188. Shutter says

    seems the $229 70 set is a steal. i tried to calculate the cost for NGC, above $30 apiece.

    Not so much of a steal just yet. Silver Towne is selling them for $239.95 (both NGC and PCGS) all FS/ER. That’s $10 more and doesn’t include OGP, but is still reasonable. MCM’s last price was $289 with a promise of October delivery.

  189. Shutter says

    Has anyone gotten theirs graded yet and received them back? Just wondering because if the grading companies (NGC) use the same size slabs as the slabs from the 25th Anniversary set coins, they DO NOT FIT in the San Francisco 75th OGP Blue Lacquer Display box.

    Pretty sure that the slabs for this set will be the same size. So, they won’t fit. If it’s any consolation, PCGS slabs will fit, but only if you ditch the piece of wood holding the capsules.

  190. Samuel says

    Shutter, the ogp is included—-“This set product includes the empty original government packaging (OGP)”

  191. Shutter says


    I stand corrected. The point is that anyone who feels they missed out on the original MCM deal, they didn’t miss it buy much.

  192. Shutter says

    When it comes to labels, I don’t think they will affect the long term value all that much. NGC has a plethora of labels for some of the coins, but I’d rather have get the best coin in the cheapest label than vice versa. With that in mind buy the label you like the most. Also the NGC trolley label is only available to dealers and not mere mortals like the rest of us who only send in a handful of coins.

    Also, NGC labels look prettier, but it seems that PCGS is slightly more selective in their grading, so if you don’t care one way or another, you might opt for PCGS. I think there is also a slight premium for PCGS graded coins most of the times. And if you don’t have any, a silver Eagle with Mercanti signature might be a nice addition to ASE collection.

  193. anh says

    Thanks Shutter for the info on Silver Towne, I will order a set each from PCGS and NGC. Those seem are good deals. I think I will go for the Flag and the Trolley label. These along with my OGP set that is on the way will make me happy but at the same time put a dent to my wallet..:(.

  194. says

    I like the guy on ebay selling the pre-selling the sets he obviously bought from Silvertowne, as copied and pasted Silvertown’s description and used their pics….nothing wrong with that….I just find it funny when he says “I just sent my coins to PCGS this weeekend”…etc.

    I also picked up a couple of the PCGS sets this morning so I’ll have some of theirs to go with my NGC sets. BTW…Silvertowne is sold out of their PCGS 70 sets as well as there OGP sets.

    @ stephen m….I’m returning 3 sets and sending the rest to NGC

  195. says

    The last time I heard from NZM was on 7/25….looks like it will be late August for the Shark coin…but it very well could be later. I’ll post something if I get any updates.

  196. Shutter says

    thanks Shutter for the info on Silvertowne
    Not a problem. I bought a few times from them on eBay, and someone (I think Louis Golino) mentioned buying from them a few weeks back. Also, Proxiblog mentioned them positively a number of times. I seriously doubt that they actually have graded coins on hand just yet, but would expect them to ship in a week or two.

  197. VA Dave says

    Got 4 sets Friday. 3 of the 4 sets looked perfect! However, on one of the sets the RP has what appears to be several shiny very small specs on the upper right side (front of coin) in the frosted area. It’s although the “frosting” came off revealing the glossy underneath part of the coin. I’m glad I ordered some extra sets. It was a relief that the coins actually stayed in place this time.

  198. rpw says

    On the phone with the US Mint right now as I type this.
    I’m FURIOUS. I obviously didn’t look at my coins very well.
    One of my Regular Proof Coins has a small burn mark directly under the the “N” in United on the Reverse. Other than that – the coin looked perfect! I just don’t understand how so many bad coins are getting thru the mints Quality Control.
    This black spot appears to be the same spot that others have complained about.
    Someone mentioned a black spot under the mint mark. If I were to rotate my coin, the spot would be directly under the mint mark as well.

    Can someone tell me if this type of “error” is considered a “Mint Error” coin or just another run of the mill “Flawed Coin”??????
    Seems to be a mint error to me since it is something that happened during the minting process as opposed to a scratch, ding, etc.
    Anyone have any thought before I decide to send it in for an exchange?

    Tell you one thing — I learned from this mistake!
    In the future – if I want 2 good sets – I’ll order 10 and cherry pick as others have suggested. Then send back all the garbage. Eventually – the mint will have to do a better job of QC’ing.

  199. hi ho silver says

    Sounds like the spot is on the holder not the coin itself. As Don has said you can take the holder off to see.

  200. rpw says

    No —
    The spot is definitely on the coin. Looks like some type of burn – which I could understand if a laser was used but since coins are pressed – I don’t know why it would get burned. The Mint said they’ve had other similar complaints.

  201. Samuel says

    rpw, i have it on my proof as well, there is a small particle, and there is a white spot surround it. i would assume, the small particle was very hot, then created the kind of burn. i saw similar stuff on some other world coins as well.

  202. rpw says

    samuel, it does appears that something hot dropped on the coin, which i don’t get because if the coins are pressed, where would something “hot” come from. it had to happen after the coin was minted. in any case – i reluctantly sent the set back today for replacement. i only hope the replacement they send me is in better shape and gets back in time to send to NGC for early release designation.

    Both Reverse Proof coins seemed to be in good shape but I did notice some very very small “spots” (actually looks shiny/smooth) in the frosted area of the coin (near the “T” on the obverse).
    It really doesn’t look like a flaw, rather, just the way the frosting appears when viewed from different angles. I don’t know if that is typical or not.
    These “flaws” – all seem to be consistent with what others have mentioned which makes me wonder how the TPG’s will grade the coins.
    Guess all we can do is wait and see!
    The more of these “returned flawed coins” there are the better for the remaining mintage (hopefully).

  203. Samuel says

    the spots on the RF should be flaws. there r longer scratches of the same nature on the frosted area.

  204. Steven says

    I just opened my 2012 AE Silver 2-coin set, and as I opened it, one of the coins actually fell out onto the ground. Not the coin still in the hard plastic capsule, but completely out of the plastic capsule. I immediately called Customer Support, and they told me the two halves of the capsule screw together, and probably loosened during shipping. That’s REALLY hard to believe. I think it simply wasn’t screwed together in the first place. So other recipients may wish to inspect their own pieces for this.

    Worse, because it was delivered to my office 10 days ago (a Friday) without me being present, was dealing with a hospitalized family member most of last week, and finally opened it today (Monday), the rep. said I might not be able to get it replaced. The 7 day return policy is absurd, especially since the recipient isn’t required to sign for the delivery.

  205. rpw says

    The capsules don’t “screw” together.
    One side slides into the other. They simply pull apart but can be quite snug and difficult to get apart.

    I returned one of my 2 sets last week because of a “burn mark” on the Proof coin. The mint said that replacement sets WERE available and I should get one in a couple weeks. I got a notice today that my replacement was backordered with an estimated ship date of 28 Aug. IF it got to me by then I would likely miss the NGC early release cutoff. I was so mad – I called the mint and just told them to cancel the order all together. They can SHOVE IT. I’m thru with their POOR CUSTOMER SERVICE. So for all the collectors – there’s one less set off the market.

  206. Hawksfan says

    Steve says:
    August 5, 2012 at 7:11 pm
    I like the guy on ebay selling the pre-selling the sets he obviously bought from Silvertowne, as copied and pasted Silvertown’s description and used their pics….nothing wrong with that….I just find it funny when he says “I just sent my coins to PCGS this weeekend”…etc.

    I like the guy on ebay who criticizes someone he thinks is flipping a set purchased from Silvertowne, then turns around and lists his on Ebay for $479! Weren’t they selling them for $239 just a few weeks ago?

  207. rpw says

    Not sure if anyone is still watching this thread but,,,,
    Has anyone noticed that of all the sets listed on ebay to date, the VAST MAJORITY of PF70’s from NGC are DEALER coins (they have the DEALER ONLY SF Trolley Label).

    And ALL OF THEM are PF70’s!

    I’ll bet you will NEVER see one of those Labels on anything less than a 70.
    I only saw 3 of the other NGC Early Release label sets graded 70. Most all of the AVERAGE JOE NGC Labeled sets are graded 69. Go figure.

    PROOF that this is nothing but a SCAM. I’m done getting coins graded!

  208. Jack says

    After taking a good good “premium” look at my 3 sets of coins that I received I couldn’t believe how snookered I was with all the scratches, marks and gouges on mostly the “plain” mirrored background coin. This is not to say that the other two revere-mirrored coins had no problems. They had many also and it took me about five page and about 2 and 1/2 weeks before I was able to submit them back to the US Mint (well after their fowl 7 day limit). BTW, that limit really ought to be something like 21 days maximum especially, if through no fault of your own, you are sent any damaged, gouged, scratched and in any other way less than perfect coins as viewed both by the naked eye and including any 10x-powered jeweler’s loupe. At least the mint accepted my coins sent back via 2 day UPS at a cost of around $35 or something like that. I know I was already reimbursed by the mint today.

    2012 AE SILVER 2-COIN SET 3 $149.95 $449.85 3 units shipped on 07/30/2012, 2 units returned

    2012 AE SILVER 2-COIN SET 2 $149.95 $299.90 2 units backordered. Expected to ship on 09/08/2012.

    I know these are really honest, hard working good folk but I really wish they had in place some kind of automatic coin inspection that would take place for each and every coin minted for collectors only. Such computerized technology could scan and document, record and assign a specific number to each coin in microseconds and if imperfections were found, then those coin(s) could be discarded and sent to the remelt pile. Any coins sent back by purchasers could be matched up to unique number and could be checked. The smallest of flaws seen at 30x or higher could be identified and found on the coin in question being sent back. … The US Mint really needs something futuristic like this and certainly for PROOF type coins, should be selling only flawless coins. I just received 5 of the 2012 Uncirculated Silver Eagles and could not find one single flaw on any side of those coins using a 10x loupe. This is how they all should be sold for premium prices to all customers, in perfect condition.

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