The 2017 Congratulations Set with S-Mint silver Eagle: If nothing else, it will be exciting

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The Mint promised us a number of surprises for its 225th-anniversary year. The first was the news that the 2017 cents minted in Philadelphia would, for the first time ever, have the P mintmark. Word got around slowly, starting with a post on a PCGS discussion board about a 2017-P penny that had turned up in pocket change.

Then, just last week, another such surprise came out, and it, too, was unannounced—a sort of Easter egg for the collecting public to discover. The annual Congratulations Set, which has contained a standard-issue, West Point–minted Proof silver Eagle since the sets were first released in 2012, will be released at noon tomorrow with a Proof ASE from the San Francisco Mint, complete with mintmark.

The news of this one traveled more quickly, first surfacing in comment threads and on message boards: Am I seeing this right? or I think the Mint made a typo. As more people went to the Mint’s website and scrutinized the photos, the cat was let out of the proverbial bag, and the story moved from the comment threads to the headlines. Soon afterward, a Mint press release announced that, not only would the Congratulations Set have an S-Mint Proof, the 2017 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set would, as well.

The exciting part, of course, is not so much the existence of the S-marked ASE but the matter of its potential mintage. The product limit for the Congratulations Set is 75,000; for the LESPS, it has traditionally been 50,000. There’s nothing to keep the Mint from raising the limit on the latter, or from adding the S-Mint Proofs to another product later in the year. But no one wants to get shut out when the 2017-S coin could end up being a low-mintage key date. The price point, $54.95, means that it’s no huge loss for the buyer if it doesn’t work out that way.

The price point is also a clue to the Mint’s timing with the coin. On Thursday, the Mint is releasing one of its highest-priced items of the year: the American Liberty 225th-anniversary gold coin. Even at spot value, the coin would be out of reach for casual collectors—and its final price will be several hundred dollars over spot. Why not release a budget-minded coin with a bit of excitement to it, around the same time as the big-ticket item? That gives everyone a chance to play.

Collectors and would-be flippers will be poised tomorrow at noon Eastern time for the set’s release. A few will get through right away; many more will have to refresh the screen several times to get in. With no household order limit in play, quite a number of people will buy multiples. And, of course, many people will be shut out, and will have to make a decision: pay a premium now—either on ebay or in buying a pricey LESPS—and risk wasting their money when the mintage runs into the high range? Or don’t buy one at all, and risk kicking themselves when the 2017-S ends up being a comparative rarity?   ❑

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  1. Fmtransmitter says

    The ol 9am est log in will be key here. I doubt 75k are ready to ship. They are on the phone to the BEP now for more packaging, unless it’s China, except they only make the boxes, I hope. I hope we don’t out source cardboard printing to China? Anybody else knows who the Mints printer is, please chime in. I assume it’s the BEP, as they had a release today too.

  2. Donald says

    jhawk,
    Yes, obviously this EBay seller was a walk-in buyer at either the D.C. or Philly. The rep at the Philly store said my call-in order will probably ship today–which is faster than the Mint’s Fulfillment Center will ship them.

  3. Donald says

    FM,
    The Congratulations Sets will not utilize presentation boxes. Rather, the ASE proof is encapsulated in a funky, ribbon adorned folder.

  4. dave says

    wow amazing how fast it sold out I was in at 1200 pm and out like a minute later my order was USM04985XXX

    maybe they might have held back sets?? we shall see

  5. cagcrisp says

    Big Boys and Dealers…

    All the Big Boys and Dealers will Now be Less Likely to tie up funds for the 2017 HR in 2 days…
    .

  6. Larry says

    So getting these “interesting” coins from the mint is going to be like getting concert tickets. The big boys make out, the little collector gets screwed. From a business standpoint that makes good sense for the mint. They get theirs. I guess that’s just the way the world works. When big companies sell a product , the company that buys large quantities gets better service.
    At the very least the mint owes us an explanation. If that’s the way it’s going to be, just tell us, and then sell to the big guys and be done with it. If all the mint cares about is the money, so be it.
    But if the mint cares just a little for us collectors that ultimately buy the coins, this just isn’t right.

  7. Mattarch says

    I was logged in and waiting at 12:00. Placed an order for one congratulations set and was done by 12:01. USM049850XX is the order number.

    Have fast internet connection and credit card on file with the mint.

  8. johnaz says

    ebay seller can ship same day only two feedback beware on ebay since 2009 and only two feedback something wrong.

  9. drew s says

    Having a hard time wrapping my head around ‘cares just a little for us collectors’ comment. If I”m not mistaken, the Mint issued a few coins last year related to the 1916 Anniversary coins and couple of those are still on sale at the Mint. You can even go and buy last years Reagan C&C set.

    As I’ve mentioned here many times, I have had Zero problem placing an order at the Mint for a coin that I wanted and getting it.

  10. cagcrisp says

    2016 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – FT MLTR 16,843 + 65
    2017 ATB SILVER UNC 5 OZ – EFF MNDS 15,363 + 341

  11. cagcrisp says

    16EA 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 556,064 + 1,940

    16EB 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 23,515 +9
    16EC 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 5,666 + 4
    16EF 2016 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 17,218 –

    16EG 2016 AM EAGLE SILVER UNC 1 OZ 192,218 +1,181

  12. cagcrisp says

    16XA 2016 WALKING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .5OZ 62,332 + 207
    16XB 2016 MERCURY DIME 24K GOLD .1OZ 124,885 –
    16XC 2016 STANDING LIBERTY 24K GOLD .25OZ 89,109 +195

  13. cagcrisp says

    17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1,073 +56
    17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1,457 + 106
    17CC 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER PROOF 15,459 + 1,594
    17CD 2017 BOYS TOWN SILVER UNC 7,467 + 637
    17CE 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD PROOF 12,938 +994
    17CF 2017 BOYS TOWN CLAD UNC 12,353 + 549
    17CG 2017 BOYS TOWN 3-COIN SET 4,061 + 180

    17CH 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER PROOF 57,198 +1,279
    17CJ 2017 LIONS CLUBS SILVER UNC 14,952 +156

  14. cagcrisp says

    17EA 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ 246,743 +13,733
    17EA042 2017 AM EAGLE SILVER PROOF 1 OZ (BULK) 194 +8

    17EB 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1 OZ 3,967 +186
    17EC 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ 832 +38
    17ED 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/4 OZ 1,119 + 93
    17EE 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 1/10 OZ 6,027 + 354
    17EF 2017 AM EAGLE GOLD PROOF 4-COIN SET 6,500 +232

  15. cagcrisp says

    JQ1 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 2,650 + 15
    JQ2 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 1,863 +12
    JQ4 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – EISENHWR 1,986 + 15
    JQ6 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – KENNEDY 6,628 +13
    JQ7 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 2,653 +7
    JQ8 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 1,767 + 13

    16SA 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – NIXON 2,508 +12
    16SB 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – NIXON 1,606 +15
    16SC 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – FORD 2,315 + 20
    16SD 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – FORD 1,599 + 15
    16SE 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 3,414 +22
    16SF 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 1,848 +14

  16. jhawk92 says

    @ Larry-

    Good points…The way I’m starting to feel about it…”Collectors” got the 2017-P penny as our thanks. Big boys, who can make money with silver products, not zinc, get the 2017-S proof ASE. See, everyone gets “something.” (insert vomiting emoji here).

  17. Larry says

    @ drew S – you are lucky that you got through. I got through, but half way through my order , no longer available. I really wasn’t too angry this time, I am not a big ASE collector. I was really mad when I couldn’t get the IKE C&C set. I got on exactly at noon and no luck. I can tell you this, if you get the “no longer available” and you got on right at noon, you will not be happy camper.
    I wonder how many of these carsonandmegansmom got? I think they had the best deal for the IKE C&C set on EBAY, that is how I got mine.

  18. Larry says

    It doesn’t look like we are going to make my 500 comment prediction by midnight. C’mon folks!

  19. John Q. Coinage says

    Drew, matters are beyond mere lone collectors hands when the mint has NO LIMITS. I have been involved in this for over 50 years & see it repeat over & over, I have one some & lost some, the point is the mint brains (Pinky & the Brain it appears…) made this a ‘secret’ S Proof ASE, then gave the secret to everyone including the folks buying 1,000 @ a clip- how else do you sell 75k in 1 MINUTE…if that dos not show you how phuck#$d up the mint mgmnt is I ton;t know what cold. It’s all sheets & giggles for us plain ol joes, all I can say is I did not buy the AG High relief last year & neither this from mint or aftermarket–> Sorry, I no longer care…rather get a nice OLD rarity…

  20. Donald says

    Cag,
    I guess all of this 2017 S ASE nonsense is already old hat with you, as you’ve already jumped off topic and back to posting sales figures. There’s not a whole lot of electricity remaining in the after-sellout comments. I think you’re delivering the message that it is time to move on. And you’re probably right.

  21. cagcrisp says

    @Donald, Not Really. Post what you want. The numbers I post come out every Tuesday and I post as soon as they come out.

    Post Away about the “S” ASE…

  22. rpk says

    It looks like Betty Ford and Grace Coolidge are now tied for lowest mintage First Spouse proof. As long as a few more Ford proofs are sold, Grace Coolidge will end up being the key to the set of proofs even though it has one of the best portraits and an interesting reverse. The prices on ebay seem to reflect this with high prices for 69’s and no 70’s available at all.

  23. earthling says

    What would really burn the house down would be if that HR sold out in under 5 minutes.

    At that level , there’s a few other things I’d rather have, so its not like I’d care.

  24. drew s says

    Maybe I’ll feel all this angst towards the Mint the first time I do get burned and I’m unable to fill an order on a coin. But for now, sorry for those who tried and missed, better luck next time.

  25. KC&SO says

    You guys that missed out this morning, I wouldn’t be too quite to jump to conclusions or write this one off..,

    As we’ve seen over and over, you may see a reappearance soon enough so be ready, 😉

    The CU happened way too fast.., I’m just curious what today’s total sales were

  26. Baldwin says

    KCSO… I also believe this isn’t sold out. That was far too few orders to claim all 75,000. I think this is a matter of available to ship being the issue.

  27. cagcrisp says

    Predictions for Launch Day and Launch Week sales for the 2017 HR…

    KCSO-Day 16,500
    KCSO-Week 21,750

    cagcrisp-Day 23,500
    cagcrisp-Week 25,000

    Dustyroads-Day 7,500

    data dave-Day 30,000
    data dave-Week 35,000
    data dave-End of Year 40,000

    earthling-Day 17,000
    earthling-Week 21,000
    earthling-2017 46,000
    earthling-2018 57,000

    Mr. Kairu-Day 21,000
    Mr. Kairu-Week 23,000

    SILKY-Day 5,000
    SILKY-Week 11,000

    Sith-Day 38,000
    Sith-Week 44,000

    sharks2th-Day 9,218
    sharks2th-Week 11,342

    joe#2-Day 27,000
    joe#2-Week 35,000

    Stipey-Day 18,000
    Stipey-Week 21,000

    Mattarch-Day 6,800
    Mattarch-Week 9,760

    Montana John-Day 4,750
    Montana John-Week 7,450

    DBR-Day 7,700
    DBR-Week 18,000

    Joe M.-Day 15,000
    Joe M.-Week 18,000
    Joe M.-2017 20,000
    Joe M.- <23,000 pulled in 2019

    felson-Day 28,000
    felson-Week 31,500

    zephin-Day 20,100
    zephin-Week 22,100
    zephin-2017 28,100

    Old Big Bird-Day 7,500
    Old Big Bird-Week 17,500

    Goat-Day 26,183
    Goat-Week 31,183

    Don-Day 15,250
    Don-Week 21,000
    Don-End Sell 45,000

    JARHEADnFLORIDA-Day 10,000
    JARHEADnFLORIDA-Week 15,000

    Yes, But…You Can't Take It With You-Day 15,000
    Yes, But…You Can't Take It With You-Week 20,000
    Yes, But…You Can't Take It With You-Final 50,000

    Xena-Day 11,500
    Xena-Week 12,700

  28. Hidalgo says

    @Baldwin – I also do not believe the Congratulations Set has sold out.

    I suspect that the US Mint had a relatively small quantity on hand. (20,000 or so?) To think that it had 75,000 initially for sale would have been a deviation from past practices. And it would have been foolish since it may not have been able to sell the full amount because of possible weak demand.

    If we’re fortunate, the US Mint will report first-day sales of the set in the near futue.

  29. Mattarch says

    If the Congratulations Set has sold out and no more are produced then it really is a bad marketing decision to take a product, which has significant demand in May and June for graduations, and make it unavailable during that time period for 2016 and 2017. I know 2016 was due to Congresses’ the late notice on the edge lettering.

    Sort of like selling swimsuits that are not available until September.

  30. Larry says

    Even if the mint only made 20K, they could sell all 75K. They just put the rest on backorder. They are probably all gone. Maybe like the gold Merc there will be some at a later date. I doubt it.
    The scary thing to me is that this seems to have purposely done to sell 75,000 coins in an instant. Either the folks at the mint are just plain dumb, which I don’t believe, or very smart. We will probably never know the truth.
    Still, because there is no mintage limit, nobody knows if the mint will sell this in something other than the LESP.

  31. Louis Golino, Author says

    While they could do anything, the fact that they specifically came out and said the coin would be available in both products tells me it is unlikely they would then pull a fast one and sell it in another product. If their goal is to sell more of them, they simply increase the LESPS mintage, but keep in mind that set will likely be $200 with both proof eagles, so they also have to consider how many $200 sets will they be able to sell. If someone really wants the S coin to complete their set, they will buy now on the secondary market for $110, not wait months and pay twice as much for a set with coins they mostly don’t want. Also, I think the LESPS tip-off was to avoid the situation in 2012 when people complained loudly about not being told in advance of 2 products with the same S-proof dollar. .

  32. Donald says

    If it is so that these Sets are not sold out, the Mint has probably already satisfied the thirst of he big dealers –who will go on to market these as “first strike” or “early release” in the gimmicky game of unnecessary graded coins.
    If you are still seeking a Set or two, check the Mint’s website @ 7:30 am ET on Saturdays, which is when it has typically released more quantities of CU ( currently unavailable) Mint offerings. This has happened, for example, with the recent Presiential C&C sets.

  33. So Krates says

    Just got back from the supermarket where I bought some cases of bottled water. The store must be owned by socialists because there was a four case limit.

    With a HHL of fifty Eagles, everyone is still on equal footing.

  34. Brad says

    Regarding the announcement of the “S” ASE being included in the LESPS, I took it to mean that the “S” Eagle would be in the set IN PLACE OF the “W” ASE, not IN ADDITION TO. It does make sense to have an “S” ASE in that set anyway, since all the rest of the coins in it were always San Francisco coins.

  35. JBK says

    I don’t think the Mint was being smart or sneaky with this – I think someone simply thought it would be neat to have an S proof in the Congratulations “set” and also include it in the LESPS set. The Mint has proven that it is not too swift when it comes to determining mintages or demand (under-producing some coins, while overproducing others).

    Were all 75,000 sold out today? Who knows, but they might have been. The packaging for this product is presumably USA-made (just a cardboard folder) so getting additional packaging for more coins should not take long, and any backorders can be quickly resolved.

    I wanted a couple of these and did not want to risk the availability of the set later this year (or pay the premium) so I made sure my password worked in advance and my cc was on file, and I logged on 10 minutes early. I got in an order for two coins at noon with no issues. I hate this rat race, but it is what needs to be done for these high demand coins, and at least readers of MNB knew in advance….

  36. coinmark says

    Well as frustrating as it is to be sold out so fast. I created my own frustration by putting a reminder on my calendar to be ready to buy it. um…yeah, so I put the reminder on my calendar for April 5th – which in tricky calendar speak is TOMORROW. I’m an idiot.

    Also, reading all the comments and I’m still a newbie but what’s LESP?

  37. Zaz says

    @JBK: smart tactic. I did so as well, in addition, I also had the Boys Town unc half dollar in my bag before 12:00 noon, so I was able to prepopulate all of the drop downs, enter the card’s security code then back to the product page exactly at 12. Went extremely smoothly to final review within ten seconds and done. Still can’t believe that acquiring this product was a matter of seconds between have and have not..

  38. JBK says

    Limited Edition Silver Proof Set. All the silver coins from various other sets in one set together (dime, quarter, half, Silver Eagle). Usually quite a markup over the combination of the other sets the coins are in.

  39. JBK says

    Zaz: I never tried that but I will in the future. Having all the cc and authorization fields pre-populated would be key in cases like this.

  40. Rick says

    If 75k were sold today, texasgs will sell pcgs pr70 below $80 for the next five months on bay.

  41. Louis Golino, Author says

    We don’t know at this point, but the LESPS is designed as a set with all the silver proofs from whatever mint in one place, not as an S-mint set, so I think it makes sense to W and S.

  42. jhawk92 says

    @ Louis-

    Very good points you make about the 2012 situation. I felt that way for sure. I’ve never been a fan of the LESPS, as I already buy the Silver Proof Set and the ASE earlier in the year. It will be interesting to see if the set includes one or both ASEs.

  43. Rick says

    Very decent sales numbers. Expect more SO (J. KENNEDY for sure) in the near future.

    JQ1 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 2,650 + 15
    JQ2 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – TRUMAN 1,863 +12
    JQ4 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – EISENHWR 1,986 + 15
    JQ6 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – KENNEDY 6,628 +13
    JQ7 2015 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 2,653 +7
    JQ8 2015 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – JOHNSON 1,767 + 13
    16SA 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – NIXON 2,508 +12
    16SB 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – NIXON 1,606 +15
    16SC 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – FORD 2,315 + 20
    16SD 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – FORD 1,599 + 15
    16SE 2016 FS GOLD PROOF 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 3,414 +22
    16SF 2016 FS GOLD UNC 1/2 OZ – REAGAN 1,848 +14

  44. JBK says

    I am very possibly wrong, but I am thinking that the LESPS will NOT have 2 SEs in it. If they do that won’t they need to have a new case designed for this one-year-only event? I suspect it will be an S set all the way, using the same case as other years….

  45. earthling says

    So, anyone in for the artistically stunningly beautiful 2017 High Relief 225th Ani versary Gold Piece on Thursday? My compulsions might have me ordering, although right now , I’m thinking noooooo wayyyyy.

    I need a good job where I can stay busy. This current job sorks. It pays too well, though. Cant walk away.

  46. Donald says

    I also believe that collectors will not dump money into a pricey LESPS set for the sake of getting an S minted proof silver eagle. They will most likely go to eBay and buy one in OGP for a lower price. If the LESPS sets do include both proof ASE’s, the price will increase significantly, along with a good chance of much lower sales totals from previous years.

  47. Joseph says

    Mint only charged me $4.95 shipping, they didn’t charge me the set.
    anyone has the same ‘lucky’ experience? are they going to give me the set FREE?
    LOL

  48. Tom P. - MA says

    The only remaining question is “How oversized will the shipment box be?” They could get away with a large securely sealed padded envelope, but I’m sure no one thought of that. The RCM does this for some subscription issues.

    Oops, another remaining question. How long before they start shipping? After all they have had since a little after noon to slap address labels on the boxes.

  49. Erik H says

    Somebody on eBay got scared and dropped his price from $124.99 to $109.95 (He did sell 100).

  50. Goat says

    @ coinmark
    Limited Edition Silver Proof Set ‘LESPS”
    Most of the time people will take first letters of sets/coins instead of writing it all out.
    Welcome to the mint news blog.

  51. Fmtransmitter says

    Did you have enough on the card? Sometimes if it doesn’t go through for the full amount, they may try the shipping charge. Could be wrong. I’m also on the side of the LeSPS ONLY including the S Mint ASE, not both. Mint is trying to sell those, and that was the way they came up with to move them.

  52. Indydude says

    I was at the coin forum last night for the Fredrick Douglas Coin Release. Some notes. The “S” ASE will be in the LESPS but only the “S” there will be no “W” included. The mintage limit will be 75K in the Congratulations set and 50K in the LESPS for a total of 125K. Philly mint to produce a copy of the HR Liberty gold in June to be followed in OCT for the 4 medal,4 mint, 4 different finishes 225 Anniversary set, hinted this will be liberty themed and not the same as the HR Gold.
    The Bulk lot is a new packaging for the proof ASE. Coins/Capsules and COA only housed in 42 coin trays sold in lots of 210 coins (5 trays). These were designed for bulk purchasers that do not want all the packaging for grading.

  53. Indydude says

    sorry the Philly copy will be in silver and the 4 coin 225 set will be in silver as well.

  54. Art says

    I don’t think the Mint puts “Remind Me” buttons on sold out products. This is their new pattern of selling inventory on hand and halting orders until more are available.

  55. Goat says

    I feel sorry for those that purchase/chase the “S” ASE on secondary market ! This is what hurts coin collecting , to wake up one day and realize you will never get your money back or make money on this greed. Dealers/Big Boys your business will have a short life when buyers catch on to the trickery. Last year the U.S. Mint was concerned with how to save collecting ? Warning us to look for something else !
    I was thinking my collection would be nice to pass down in the family , but now I thinking if it is not bullion it’s not worth buying.

  56. cagcrisp says

    @indydude, Thanks for the info…

    “The Bulk lot is a new packaging for the proof ASE. Coins/Capsules and COA only housed in 42 coin trays sold in lots of 210 coins (5 trays). These were designed for bulk purchasers that do not want all the packaging for grading.”

    …SO…We’ve had 194 sales @ 210 coins = 40,740 more Proof ASEs sold…

  57. Dustyroads says

    Just some random thoughts…

    It’s interesting that we get a release like this as soon as USM Acting Director Rhett Jeppson is no longer on the job. This idea leads me to remember the failed releases of the three tributes last year.

    We briefly discussed early the timing of this release. It may be that the mint felt PFSWeb could more efficiently do their job if the releases were closer together. I’m just wondering what they do with their workforce when not so busy.

    It may be that the USM wanted to change the LESPS to make it an all “S” set, but didn’t want to make only 50,000. Putting them into another set like the Congrats set makes perfect sense. And it is Graduation time.

  58. cagcrisp says

    @Goat, ” , but now I thinking if it is not bullion it’s not worth buying.”

    I would agree on Most Modern, but there is still some old stuff worth collecting…

  59. Dustyroads says

    cagcrisp, If all you want to do is have them graded, then this is the smart thing to do. It’s a win win.

  60. cagcrisp says

    @Dustyroads, it was discussed at the Fall Forum and agreed that its somethings that is long Overdue.

    It also helps me determine the breakdown in sales between Regular customers and Big Boys…

  61. Dustyroads says

    You can’t see me, You may have trouble finding an answer to that, depending on who you ask of course. The quick answer is yes, because the mintage of the LESPS has remained constant since the mint began selling them in 2012. But this is all speculation.

  62. cal g. says

    Waits with NON-BAITED breath for a PRESALE 2017-S Proof ASE PCGS First Strike, First Strike MOY, First Strike Mercanti, First Strike Ivanka, First strike Pence, First Strike Mercanti, First Strike Silver Foil Capitol, First Strike Flag, First Strike Women’s Right’s, First strike Transgender, First Strike Grain-Free, First Strike Organic…………………Stop the madness..

  63. Donald says

    The Congratulations Sets I bought from the Philly Mint store early this afternoon have already been received by FedEx, with an expected Friday delivery. Aramark has supplied me with a tracking number. The Aramark gentleman who took my phone order was very helpful.

  64. earthling says

    If the Mint could only put MS/PF 70 ‘s in those bulk trays……..

    Money talks……….

  65. joe#2 says

    Louis? I’ve been watching APMEX with the 2017 Australian Southern sky. This moring approx 58 left or so. Usually on the average 2 have been selling a day. Today, I have noticed over 30 have been sold. Wonder whats going on if anything.

  66. Barry says

    The LESPS is more expensive than the Silver proof set and proof ASE combined. You also get less coins. So put in a proof “S” ASE and you give buyers a reason to buy the LESPS. Let me know if I’m missing something here.

  67. 1958 Chevrolet Bel Air says

    Let’s really go all out with the special mint marks and bring back the CC and O mint marks.

  68. 1958 Chevrolet Bel Air says

    Will there be a D mint mark on the silver eagle? It’s time to do a Denver mint silver eagle.

  69. 1958 Pontiac Bonneville says

    Will the the mint put out a special S mint uncirculated silver eagle too ?

  70. Indydude says

    Last though before bed. I also asked if the Denver or West Point Mints would follow with a surprise later. Silence spoke volumes And to put this to bed, no fractional buffaloes.

  71. Erik H says

    1958 Chevrolet Bel Air,

    Earlier today I brought up the Denver ASE in a 4 coin set D,P, S & W. That’s what I’m hoping for.

  72. So Krates says

    indydude says, “Philly mint to produce a copy of the HR Liberty gold in June to be followed in OCT for the 4 medal,4 mint, 4 different finishes 225 Anniversary set, hinted this will be liberty themed and not the same as the HR Gold.”

    There are photos of the actual medals in the four different finishes from Baltimore in the 3/31 Coin Update article linked in the 3/27 thread. They are the same as the HR gold.

  73. 1958 Chevrolet Bel Air says

    I wonder what the mint will do for the 35 anniversary of the silver eagle since they are making it a pattern to celebrate the anniversary every 5 years?

  74. 1958 Chevrolet Bel Air says

    I want the mint to shock everyone by making coins from the New Orleans and Carson City mint and secretly release them into circulation.

  75. So Krates says

    The takeaway from today’s comments illustrate that, if anything, the LACK of a HHL causes “class warfare”.

  76. Hidalgo says

    Off topic – I find it most interesting that the Boys Town gold proof coin is underselling the uncirculated version. This observation runs contrary to what we’ve seen in the past (i.e., proof coins selling more than the uncirculated versions).

    I presume secondary market dealers believe that the uncirculated version will sell fewer in the long run. Thoughts?

    Thanks cagcrisp for reproducing the data!

    17CA 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD PROOF 1,073 +56
    17CB 2017 BOYS TOWN GOLD UNC 1,457 + 106

  77. achmed says

    we have to repeat and repeat and repeat: AND STORE IN MEMORY: The boys town gold proof coin is not only sold solely BUT in the three coin proof set. And now you can calculate what coin has the higher mintage.

  78. cagcrisp says

    AM Gold Fix $1,252.50…

    It ALL comes down to PM Fix and it Looks to be Razor thin Either way…

  79. David says

    I’m sure I am the only one who feels this way but I think collector coins such as this should be minted to demand. Everyone who wants one should have the opportunity to get one. It’s bad when the mints website gets bogged down with people trying to get them because they fear a sellout. Further I think there should be limits to prevent dealers and other big boys from hoarding them only to flip them and resell and gouge customers weren’t able to get them from the mint, Seems like it’s become a game now.

  80. data dave says

    @cagcrisp – What do you make of the latest FS gold numbers? I was surprised of the relative strength up and down the list. On the proof side the current issues are moving up the all time list. Not as many collectors on the UNC side of things.

    For the PROOFS:
    Coolidge 2315
    Ford 2315
    Harding 2372
    Roosevelt 2377
    Hoover 2392
    Wilson 2 2464
    Nixon 2508
    Wilson 1 2511
    Taft 2598
    Truman 2650
    Johnson 2653
    Eisenhower 2704
    McKinley 2724
    Roosevelt 2840

    For the UNCS:
    Ford 1599
    Nixon 1606
    Johnson 1767
    Reagan 1848
    Truman 1863
    Roosevelt 1886
    Hoover 1936
    Harding 1944
    Coolidge 1949
    Wilson 2 1974
    Wilson 1 1980
    Eisenhower 1986
    McKinley 2008
    Roosevelt 2027

  81. cagcrisp says

    @data dave, As far as FS coins are concerned, sales were Strong. Since it was up and down most options I would assume that it was one party that did most of the buying. It was Surprising since we just had a price Increase. Doesn’t make sense to wait for a $25 price Increase and then decide to buy across the board.

    Since the pop numbers are so Low on Graded FS coins, it could be someone looking for graded and we will see some negative numbers this week…

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