U.S. Mint Shares Final Designs for 2017’s America the Beautiful Quarters

The U.S. Mint has shared its final designs for 2017’s five America the Beautiful quarters. The Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee and the Commission of Fine Arts both met in February to make their recommendations, which were taken from a large pool of design submissions. The following designs are presented in the order they will be released.

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The first new quarter of 2017 will feature Effigy Mounds National Monument in Iowa. Its reverse will include a view of Native American burial mounds known as the “Marching Bear Group.” Inscribed along the rim of the coin will be EFFIGY MOUNDS, IOWA, E PLURIBUS UNUM, and 2017. The image was designed by Richard Masters and sculpted by Renata Gordon.

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The next quarter will highlight the Frederick Douglass National Historic Site in Washington, D.C., and feature an image of Douglass at his writing desk with his home in the background. Inscribed along the rim are FREDERICK DOUGLASS, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, E PLURIBUS UNUM, and 2017. This design was created by Thomas Hipschen and sculpted by Phebe Hemphill.

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The Ozark National Scenic Riverways in Missouri will be featured on 2017’s third quarter in an image designed by Ronald D. Sanders and sculpted by Renata Gordon. Depicted is Alley Mill, an 1894-built mill that converted wheat into flour. OZARK RIVERWAYS, MISSOURI, E PLURIBUS UNUM, and 2017 are inscribed along the rim.

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The next issue will carry in image of Ellis Island (Statue of Liberty National Monument) in New Jersey. Designed by Ronald D. Sanders and sculpted by Renata Gordon, this reverse carries an image of an immigrant family with the hospital building in the background. Inscribed along the rim is ELLIS ISLAND, NEW JERSEY, E PLURIBUS UNUM, and 2017.

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Finally, the fifth and final ATB quarter of 2017 will feature George Rogers Clark National Historical Park in Indiana. The reverse design carries a depiction of George Rogers Clark and his men approaching Fort Sackville during the Revolutionary War. This image was designed by Frank Morris and sculpted by Michael Gaudioso.

All ATB quarters employ John Flanagan’s 1932 obverse portrait of George Washington with the inscriptions UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, LIBERTY, IN GOD WE TRUST, and QUARTER DOLLAR.

For more information on the America the Beautiful quarters program, please visit the U.S. Mint’s Web site.

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  1. Dustyroads says

    I was hoping for the standing Frederick Douglass. I guess some wanted the house in the background.

    I can’t help but notice how the Mint likes to sell these coins in order of what they deem will be least favorite to most favorite. As usual, the first coin (Effigy Mounds) will sell far better than anyone expects.

  2. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    Although the Mill on the Ozark ATB is a good design, I’m also feeling the loss of the turtle, which I was looking forward to adding to my puck collection. I only buy the designs I really like, especially if I have visited and hiked the site with my family. Very isolated Chaco Culture (Kivas) and spectacular Arches (Delicate Arch) are foremost in my mind.

    OT

    I received my 2016 (25 pounds) 1/4 ounce .9999 gold Queen’s Beast produced by the Royal Mint TODAY.

    Despite having a diameter only slightly larger than a nickel, I am very impressed with it, and the coin will become part of the permanent collection to be passed down within my family.

    Coincidentally, I found a cool high relief silver lions head charm while metal detecting Hurricane Hermine’s initial surf effects this afternoon. Landfall in the Big Bend tonight. Little rain and no wind, just high surf, so far here (east of Destin, west of Panama City). High tide late tonight should strip a lot of beach sand.

  3. Give Me Da Money Plz says

    My favorite design is the Ozark Riverways. Ellis Island comes in at second. George Rogers Clark and Frederick Douglass are tied for mediocre at best. Effigy Mounds is clearly the worst of the five.

    Most of these designs should not have been chosen. Make our coins great again!

  4. KCSO says

    These all suck! (sans the Trump Rally coin (and that’s only because I collect long rifles too)).

    I work really hard for my money and I’m tired of seeing missed opportunities for unique and great designs, and what could have been.., instead just more crappy designs.

    I’m out of the series now, I’ll pick up the last two this year and the Tuskegee Airmen, and done. Hey, maybe the CCAC/CFA will be politically correct with Tuskegee and put a white girl on it! Give me a reason to pass on that one too!

    New lows coming with the ’17 Commemoratives.., for sure. Glad TR P is next, the timing is impeccable (for a great escape).

    You all have fun with these pucks.., they truly are trinkets, or tokens, or animal crackers, or…(geez, I’m beginning to sound like Jeff)

  5. Hawkster says

    The ATB quarter designs have been utilizing images of a person(s) more frequently for the past couple years. In the case of the 2017 Ellis Island ATB quarter, showing the image of an immigrant family is entirely appropriate, as the history of the island is defined by newly arrived immigrants.

  6. KCSO says

    Qui Transtulit Sustinet – good luck and make it count. I’ve been at your 3 o’clock for 3 weeks and now stuck trying to get out through tomorrow night most likely, make something positive of this amongst more crappy designs. 😃

  7. oldfolkie says

    Pathetic, I thought both advisory groups picked the turtle overwhelmingly,.Who the hell picked this? America the Beautiful? Hardly How can they keep taking amazing possibilities and totally destroying them. Seriously though I have collected them all, but these are enough to make me say my collection of National Parks is complete, after I add the Voyageurs coin. They made joke out of the National Park silver dollar, and I guess they may as well ruin these too.

  8. Dave SW FL says

    KCSO,
    I vote to give Jeff a break as his posts have lately been informational, rational, and helpful. I’m thinking he saw the light and mended his ways.
    Always willing to give a reformed individual (aren’t we all?) a second chance, and always delighted when that yields positive results ( thinking of Charles Colson, rest his soul.)

    But the comment did elicit a chuckle from me and maybe even Jeff ( he does have a sense of humor!)

  9. So Krates says

    The committees picked the turtle for 2018 Cumberland Island, GA. You’ll have to wait another year.

  10. MN Printer says

    We have some good designs to look forward to in 2018, particularly the Common Loon on the Minnesota quarter but I am pretty disappointed with the final 2017 designs. The turtle would have been a nice followup to the turkey. And the animal crackers may be the worst design of the entire ATB series.

  11. Hawkster says

    Hey, let’s face it. The large, majestic National Parks such as Yosemite, Olympic, and Glacier presented the best opportunities for nice ATB design images. As we move to the lesser known N.P. sites, it’ll be a lot more challenging for the coin design artists to come up with images that will make you feel the urge to buy from among the remaining roster of ATB’s. Even the completists among us (those who “need” to collect every ATB) might have to swallow hard before purchasing some of the remaining offerings.

  12. KCSO says

    Dave SW FL – Ask Jeff…

    Here, I’ll do it for ya,

    Jeff, are these…,

    Trinkets?
    Tokens?
    Animal crackers? or…
    Have you found 😍 I them?

  13. Hawkster says

    I guess swapping out the turtle from the ’17 Ozark Riverways to the ’18 Cumberland Island could be considered an example of the old “shell” game.

  14. Gary Not Dave says

    Well hopefully we will get that Loon on the 2018 Minnesota Coin. Really looking forward to that one. And since my 2017 budget for 2017 ATB can be spent elsewhere, I think I will bump up my 2016 Teddy Coins….1 bullion and probably 5 of the SP finishes! I still think Teddy will be a 1 day sell out. But who knows?

  15. Eddie says

    @Steve
    Thank you.
    The more I look at “Animal Crackers ” the more I like it.
    It looks like ghost animals floating down a river. I keep wondering why the trees are in the river
    …..must be flooding.

  16. says

    Eddie.., where can I find some of those ‘shrooms you’re enjoying?

    Dustyroads says, “I can’t help but notice how the Mint likes to sell these coins in order of what they deem will be least favorite to most favorite. As usual, the first coin (Effigy Mounds) will sell far better than anyone expects.”

    That will only be because the release will be at noon, right before lunch, and 2/3rds of the nation comtemplating whether to purchase will be hungry.., & will only see Animal Crackers

  17. Barry says

    The texture of the Iowa coin may be interesting. I’ll probably get that one and the New Jersey in the “P” version. If I buy any of the others it will be bullion only.

  18. Hawkster says

    In 2019, Lowell (MA) National Park will be depicted on an ATB quarter. Lowell NP honors the former importance of the textile industry in the U.S. It is actually a beautiful Park district, complete with classic textile mills as well as water canals for powering the looms and other machinery in the buildings. Some of the buildings still house the now still looms and overhead drive belts and pulleys, although there are even some working loom examples for the Park visitor to view.
    O.K., how will this National site be portrayed on the ATB coin? For those of you who don’t favor people on the ATB coins, perhaps we’ll get an image of the mill buildings and the canals. For those of you who don’t mind people on the ATB coin, perhaps we’ll get an image of an Irish immigrant girl (who made up the bulk of the factory workers) operating a loom.
    So, what will the image be: Textile buildings or girl on loom?

  19. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    For those of you who missed the mention on the previous thread, there is a great new Louis Golino article on Coin Update. IMO, his best work since I have been following him.

    I’m also looking forward to the Loon Voyageurs design in 2018. Hope they don’t decide to go against the recommendations on that one, like they did on the Ozarks turtle!

    @KCSO Good luck getting a flight out at a time that works for you.

  20. Eddie says

    Ozarks did have a turtle for one of the designs and it looks a heck of a better than the on for the Georgia design.
    KCSO not smoking anything but I think after these designs someone either was or should have been smoking something.

  21. says

    I agree these designs are decidedly uninspired, and if one goal was to encourage people to visit the depicted sites, they completely fail.
    I’m committed to a complete collection of all the “real” quarters—PDSSS, but I’m only collecting the hockey pucks of states I’ve lived in or sites I’ve visited, That mean I won’t be wasting any money on 2017 pucks.
    In 2018, the means the Cumberland Island puck only, but the proposed designs for all of them showed promise. Let’s hope the Mint does a better job of picking the final designs a year from now!

  22. says

    On another matter, when the heck is the Mint gonna post release dates for the Reagan C&C. And why isn’t the uncirculated Silver Eagle begin release with the proof?

  23. says

    I really like this article,
    http://news.coinupdate.com/american-liberty-silver-medals-a-new-kind-of-numismatic-product/comment-page-1/#comment-1018284

    I’ve perused comments over the past several weeks and was amazed that not one hinted at the true uniqueness of the these medals besides the “Hey, I made $100 bucks off of a medal” comment

    A first of a Series in an ultra low mintage.

    A first in a pure silver ASE planchette strike

    A first in a stunning, what might possibly be the next ASE design, modern Liberty (what comes next)

    Did I say only 12,500 per mint mark

    A Reverse that we will surely, hopefully, see again..,

    When will we see a modern design as classy, refined, and stunning as this medal anytime in the near future..,

    There was too many unknowns and possible ‘what ifs’ associated with these medals than for a chip shot at $100, hence why mine will be nestled away.

    At current pricing on the bay, those purchased at the high premium will all find their way into very Strong Hands.., and at 12,500 per MM, in a couple of weeks.., that’ll be all she wrote!

    OH, and the dealer’s are still buying for a reason…

    And those that buy at those prices don’t intend to sell…

    Still perplex why the mint would limit this release to only 12,500 which is ultra low.., though we’ve seen similiar behavior with the Truman C&C and 2015 Platinum Proof Eagle.

    Just some random thoughts…,

    .., on Strong Hands

  24. Jerry Diekmann says

    I like the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th designs. As for the 1st design, is that what these burial sites actually look like? They look more like large cotton balls or pillows laying in a park. As for the 5th design, why do we have pictures of only people on ATB quarters only? Why not have a portrayal of Ft. Sackville with the men storming it? This is the same mistake made on the Saratoga and Cumberland Gap quarters. I guess the Mint chooses not to learn from its previous mistakes.

  25. Dustyroads says

    KCSO, I agree, the Liberty medals would easily fly as the new ASE. Just imagine what it would look like complete with all the statutory wording. Beautiful.
    Don’t get down on these guys because they had a little fun in the moment. I’ve read a bunch of positive comments.
    Just because you are there; have you ever ventured out in a hurricane thinking it was safe enough because the winds had died down only to realize that you were in the eye? I have, and I can tell you that 70 mph winds will make you wish you hadn’t. Cheers

  26. Jerry Diekmann says

    Hawkster – for Massachusetts, instead of “girl on loom”, how about “witch on broom”? Salem is in Massachusetts, and probably more people know about Salem than Lowell. I’m saying this with tongue-in-cheek.

  27. Erik H says

    I may buy the Ozark in a 5 oz version but everything else will be in the silver proof quarter format.

  28. Dave SW FL says

    Geez, glad to hear some of the rest of you are finally seeing some higher than normal relief on these medals. I was beginning to think it was time for a vision test!

  29. Hawkster says

    Jerry D.,
    You make a good point in regard to the three Revolutionary War guys, and only the three guys, depicted on the George Rogers Clark ATB. Who’s to say those guys aren’t fighting on the Lexington, MA green instead of a battlefield in Indiana? I guess we just have to use our imagination.

  30. Hawkster says

    Jerry D.,
    On closer examination, it appears that the three guys are wading in waist deep water. I assume this rules out the Lexington battlefield.

  31. Yes, But...You Can't Take It With You says

    I, too, liked the turtle in the proposed Ozark design. But I also like the design that was chosen and think that it will look particularly good on the 5 oz bullion canvas. The rest of the proposed 2017 designs? Meh.

  32. Give Me Da Money Plz says

    @ Louis

    That was another great article. But the one thing I cannot seem to understand is why some of you keep saying the Lady Liberty depicted on the 2015 Gold High Relief Liberty and on the 2016 Liberty Silver Medals is not Caucasian. She looks Caucasian to me. But even if she is not Caucasian the mint still used original Greek aspects in the design.

    I do not mind if non-Caucasians are chosen to depict Lady Liberty. But the coin should keep some original Greek and/or Roman aspects.

  33. KCSO says

    Asherspapa says, On another matter, when the heck is the Mint gonna post release dates for the Reagan C&C. And why isn’t the uncirculated Silver Eagle begin release with the proof?

    The mint’s trend has been to update the Product Schedule either the first Wednesday or Thursday of the month by around 1:30 am EST – OR – 2 weeks prior to the release date.

    Therefore I suspect you’ll see an update by Thursday of next week. Failing in that, we could assume that it’s the result of packaging delays as we’ve see all to often in the past.

    My money is on Thursday, 8 December for the WLH; otherwise September and October is wide open for the remainder of the TBD’s.

    All but given up hope that we’ll see any form or fashion of a surprise Special gold or silver set, just doesn’t appear to be in the cards this year.

    Thanks Qui

  34. KCSO says

    Though the mint could still squeeze out a stealth release of the Proof Palladium 1 oz in December with the currently open 16EK product code.

    That would be very unique given the design and align with the 1916 Tribute releases; they could go low Mintage like we’ve seen before in the 2015 APE which additionally would create A LOT of buzz for the BU Pd release next year and help get that coin off to a good start.

    This of course is all very much wishful thinking on my part.., though who knows, no one foresaw the Liberty medals having a Mintage of 12,500 each and some relief, contrary to what the mint had started at various points

  35. Robert says

    These are very nice designs all around; the compositions are quite diverse and well-balanced although the juxtaposition of the house and Frederick Douglass figure in Design 2 is a bit awkward. At first glance, the effigy mounds in Iowa’s design do indeed “look like” animal crackers.

    However, after researching the NPS website on this national monument, it also appears that the artist did his homework: https://www.nps.gov/articles/effigymounds.htm

    They do look like animal crackers, at least to the novice (and to those who choose to remain uninformed). To those who bother themselves in becoming educated, however, these ancient mounds are believed to have functioned as territory markers, burial sites, or ceremonial places. It is believed the mounds appear “crude” today only because thousands of years of soil erosion has eliminated any and all sculpted detail save for their basic outlined shapes.

    The Mint’s website has the line art available in high resolution of these designs. I personally find them stunning. The Iowa design’s textural field, which probably represents the state’s prairie, could be the gem of the lot if it’s sculpted well.

    http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/?action=photo#AmericaTheBeautiful

    Kudos to the Mint for a job well done!

  36. Louis says

    For what it is worth I not only am keeping my 4 medals but also bought a 5th one coming today that cost me about $130.

  37. Louis says

    On the ATB designs, I think 4 are decent but am not crazy about the Effigy Mounds. Also Ellis Island has so much significance for so many of us, and I think the Stature of Liberty should have been part of the design even if it has appeared on some commems back in the 1980s.

  38. Hawkster says

    Louis,
    I believe Liberty Island, where the Statue of Liberty is located, belongs to New York, not New Jersey.

  39. says

    Louis.., I’m very surprised you didn’t wait shortly to pick up the extra medal when they’re a tad bit over spot?!
    (Hehe)

  40. cagcrisp says

    @KCSO, “A first in a stunning, what might possibly be the next ASE design, modern Liberty (what comes next)”

    Would you like to venture a Guess as to how much a Liberty Silver medal would be worth IF the Mint EVER decides to use this design on an ASE?

    …AND…How much those High Relief Liberty’s that you are setting on would be worth IF the Mint EVER decided to use this design on an ASE?

  41. Louis says

    Image the design in a 5 oz high relief!!

    If anyone sees a good deal on 2017 Perth Mint 1 oz. silver Year of the Rooster coins, please let us know. gainesville was taking pre-orders yesterday at $7.50 over spot but sold out of its initial allocation.

  42. I started collecting yesterday says

    I see the gun agenda is part of the menu again. The NRA must be happy. Yes, there was a battle at George Rogers Clark National Historic Park, but do we have to depict scenes of violence on our coinage? Besides, I didn’t know guns had anything to do with our national parks, other than them getting in the way of being able to enjoy the nature while gun owners fire their weapons at the shooting ranges. Sounds like a war zone most of the time. I’ll probably skip this puck. Ellis Island looks great.

  43. cagcrisp says

    How many designs has the Mint recycled ?

    St Gaudens Gold to AGE obverse
    St Gaudens Gold to Ultra High Relief
    Walking Liberty Silver half to ASE obverse
    Walking Liberty Silver half to Walking Liberty Gold half
    Indian Head/Buffalo nickel to Indian Head/Buffalo Gold
    Winged Head Liberty Silver dime to Winged Head Liberty Gold dime
    Standing Liberty Silver quarter to Standing Liberty Gold quarter
    High Relief Liberty Gold to Liberty Silver medal

    Others???

  44. MN Printer says

    I took the middle road on the silver medals. Sold one pair for $250 today and am keeping the other pair in my collection. If this does become a series I think the 2016 medals will be the key as no doubt the Mint will produce too many next year.

  45. Louis says

    The guns are shown because an important battle of the American Revolutionary War was fought where the park is located, and the park is a memorial to those events.

  46. Louis says

    The recycling issue is interesting. One often hears old timer collectors say they want to see more classics recycled, but how much is enough? The editor of Numismatic News recently suggested issuing almost all the old stuff in gold, but collectors can”t afford all that. Isn’t it better to see new designs if they are compelling like the ones on the new medals?

  47. chris says

    some more :

    continental dollar is rev on Ben Franklin commem
    Washington $5 commem has original quarter dollar design
    Morgan rev on SF Mint commem dollar
    $5 Half eagle on SF MIn commem $5 Gold
    Lady Liberty First Spouses

  48. So Krates says

    Good ones, chris.

    I have doubts that these medals would be considered a key to the series if the designs are used on ASEs. Did the 2001 $1 silver Buffalo become more super important in 2006 when the gold Buffaloes were issued? Who considers the gold JFK the key to the series? They are too different. I wonder if they’ll even be in the Red Book and if they are I doubt they’d list them with the ASEs. Planchets, scmanchets, lack of denomination is crucial.

  49. So Krates says

    @ I started collecting yesterday – I hear ya. Are three guns really necessary? Disagree about Ellis though.Looks contrived and cheesy to me. Is the woman watching a rat scurrying along the dock? The little kid waving a little flag, totally unnatural… like the juxtaposition of the Flying Douglas House. The Ozark seems decently balanced and active but the F-O-G may have the most potential due to the texture. An underwhelming lot to be sure.

  50. I started collecting yesterday says

    Thank you, Louis. There was also a battle at Fort McHenry, Harper’s Ferry, and other locations represented in the ATB series. There will be more ATB war memorials in the future. Humans love to fight, kill, and wage war with each other. My point is that the depictions of violence don’t fit in with the “Beautiful” part of the theme. I’m a new collector, though. So, I have a lot to learn. Thanks again.

  51. says

    Oh Sir Cag – I beckon your pardon,

    Would you like to venture a Guess as to how much a High Relief Liberty Gold would be worth IF the Mint EVER decides to use this design on an ASE? Or AGE?

  52. data dave says

    OT – So I just saw an ad for Pres. Dollars with missing edge lettering. The ad said these were smuggled out of the mint by a guard. If this is the case then aren’t they still gvt. property and illegal to own? At what price point does the gvt. repossess such coins? Could it be that our gvt. is extremely inconsistent in how they enforce the law?

  53. cagcrisp says

    @KCSO, “Would you like to venture a Guess as to how much a High Relief Liberty Gold would be worth IF the Mint EVER decides to use this design on an ASE? Or AGE?”

    How about this, since the Launch of the Liberty Silver medals more High Relief Liberty Golds have been Sold in the past week than in the previous Two weeks before Launch…

    Apples to Apples…
    Prices for OGP are up $4.26/coin since Launch vs. Previous Two weeks
    Prices for NGC MS70 are up $69.75/coin since Launch vs. Previous Two weeks
    Prices for PCGS MS70 are up $84.04/coin since Launch vs. Previous Two weeks

    …And that is in the face of a $25.00 drop in Gold prices since Launch…

  54. MT says

    @data dave — I saw the same ad and had the same reaction as you. They’re boldly peddling stolen property. Offered for the low, low price of $79.99 to $179.99 for a $1 coin with no PM content. Although PCGS labels them with an “edge error” designation, they are not true error coins. They are coins stolen from the Mint prior to the completion of minting. No error was made other then the guard’s decision to pilfer them and then serve time in prison.

  55. The Real "Cool" Brad says

    I don’t understand why they chose to use a floating house in the Frederick Douglas coin. Is it a figment of his mind? It’s a strange choice by the mint. A simple small straight line would ground the house.

  56. Eddie says

    I am really starting to like Effigy Mounds the best.
    The.Ozarks will be great it the mint can pull it off.

  57. Dave SW FL says

    See what happens to PMs when traders skip town to get away to the Hamptons for the holiday! Don’t hold your breath expecting this to hold up past next week.
    Still hoping for a “correction” to lower the price of the SLQ

  58. So Krates says

    Who was that mumbling about $15 silver? Don’t think we’ll see that again for a long, long time -maybe never. September is usually the strongest month for precious metals with summer being the weakest.

  59. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    @Louis

    I totally agree with your opinion that it is “better to see new designs if they are compelling like the ones on the new medals”, rather than continuing the trend of variations on previously issued classic designs.

    I haven’t sold any of my four Liberty silver medals either. Long and strong on Liberty.

    The frequency and length of time I spend admiring them in hand, compared to other numismatic purchases, speaks volumes to me.

    I would love to see this rendition of modern Liberty, especially Paul Balan’s beautiful Eagle, or BOTH designs used again.

  60. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    @KCSO

    If your “to do” destination list based on 2018 ATB offerings doesn’t already include Block Island, Rhode Island, I urge you to include it.

    Block Island has been one of my favorite places since my first visit about 45 years ago. Subsequently, I was lucky enough to spend quite a bit of time there in the 1980’s. It has now been way too long since my last visit.

    The island is accessible by ferry, boat, or plane. Great birding, hiking, biking, fishing, and eating.

  61. says

    Qui – thanks, much appreciated. Will add to the list, sounds awesome.

    I’ll offer two of my favorite hidden gems in kind, Fort Pickens National Park and the state park at St. George Island, both in Florida. Want a picturesque beach to yourself, they can’t be beat, I go to escape.

    Had three separate flights cancelled today, try again tomorrow via Newark, grilling out by 6pm or Bust!

  62. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    @KCSO

    Yes, Ft. Pickens and St. George Island are both great recommendations.

    Since I have lived in that part of Florida for almost 25 years, I have visited both several times.

    I would add Wakulla Springs State Park.

  63. says

    “I would add Wakulla Springs State Park.”

    Yes, amazing! Kayaking with the manatees, gators, and everything else in that crystal clear water, that is deserving of its own DMPL Puck, absolutely amazing. Cheers!

    I hope to retire where you’re at in 10.

    ———
    Maybe the U.S. Mint leadership should get out from behind their fat cat desk jobs and go explore some our National gems, then we won’t end up with such poor designs and on the off chance that something of natural beauty may resonate into an impressionable design. Yeah right.

  64. Qui Transtulit Sustinet says

    @KCSO

    One more.

    If I read your employment and location correctly, Fishers Island, New York would be a good visit for you, if you haven’t already been there.

    Closer to Connecticut than Long Island, Fishers Island is easily accessible by ferry from New London, CT, which is near Groton.

    You could also get there by plane or private boat.

    Fishers has some of the best striped bass surf fishing on the East Coast, and like Block Island, has harpoon harvested swordfish available in season. Delicious. No comparison to the fish obtained by long line.

  65. says

    Has anyone notices some pre-sales on ebay for the upcoming, 9/16 release of the 2016 Proof Silver American Eagle? One seller has sold over 30 for $63.50 and another is selling them for $62.95.
    Don’t see any profit when they may be around 54.95 from the Mint. And that’s all I see them being worth….I’ll buy maybe 3 for my collection, but that’s all these are….no money to be made here…..probable will sell a million or more. The 2016 burnished 30th Silver Annv coin will also have the smooth edge lettering and might be a sleeper.

    I’m really disappointed in the Mint with there 30th anniversary SAE offering….and nothing at all for the AGE 30th or the gold buffaloes 10th anniversary…unless they surprise us…I remember the 2006 20th Anne silver set did not come out until October 2006

  66. Mattarch says

    Other Web sites have provided information on “The United States Mint is hosting a one-day forum Oct. 13 in Philadelphia to discuss the past, present, and future of the numismatic hobby.”

    Dan, did you get an invitation and are you going?

  67. earthling says

    This Mint gang seems to be getting very desperate. How soon will they be offering 1804 Dollars in 24kt Gold. And how about some 1913 V Nickels in Silver or Platinum?

    I know ! A ’55 DDO Lincoln in 24 kt Gold. Nowwww… we talkin.

    😅

  68. Hawkster says

    Qui,
    Since the majority of Fishers Island is very private, there are not too many places a tourist can visit. It is pretty strange that although it is only a couple miles off the CT coastline and about 12 miles off the North Fork of Long Island, NY, it belongs to NY.
    Fishers Island, as you described it, is a great place to visit with all the recreational opportunities it offers. It still has the classic, grand hotels. I’ve taken the ferry from Montauk Point, Long Island to get there.
    And yes, I’d like to get the Block Island ATB puck.

  69. Dustyroads says

    Steve, The seller may be planning to sell 70’s at a higher cost, but wants to quickly cut loose of the 69’s in OGP.

  70. KCSO says

    Qui, “the best striped bass surf fishing on the East Coast, and like Block Island, has harpoon harvested swordfish available in season” – oh, if that didn’t get my attention! Like music to my ears, I’m there in 2017 (as I won’t be spending the $ on Pucks)!
    Actually, I look forward to taking a long, slow jog down the C&O canal on Sunday morning with my Golden Retriever some where between Harpers Ferry and Georgetown.., just to pee on every tree, whatever he wants.😃 I think my annual NPS pass covers that, maybe the mint should turn that into a ’19 design given how piss poor the ’17 design are (pun intended)
    ——————————–

    As we approach this Labor Day weekend, do know that’s there is the most intelligent patriotic civilians (I’m not one of them, intelligencewise) working around the clock to help solve issues to dissolve threats so our children and grandchildren can live peaceful lives and live in freedom as of Founding Fathers intended.

    And most importantly, our service men and women that are taking the fight to the enemy 24/7 to keep the fight off shore so our local Walmart, school, (or you fill in the blank), …, can operate peacefully

    Do take a moment over the weekend to recognize their commitment while they are deployed 3, 6 or 9 months away from their families upon foreign soil so we can enjoy Freedom..,

    Not a lecture.., just a thought. We should all celebrate Freedom that has been labored for us.

  71. says

    WOW,,, while most pre-sales of the gold SLG have been around $700, I just say one that (in auction) sold foe $550.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Standing-Liberty-Centennial-Coin-Sealed-W-16XC-US-mint-1-4-oz-Gold-New-/162187697003?hash=item25c323db6b:g:gXUAAOSwFe5XxztR

    I’m also surprised I haven’t seen any graded pre-sales. To me, with a HHL of one, this is just a coin I want to add to my collection….but disappointed in the HHL.

    I will also be a buyer of the gold WLH regardless of mintage, HHL, or price….as it is such a classic and my favorite of the three offered this year., I have to have one. Not that I have a money tree, but I have plenty of coins I could sell if need be.

    One last comment I’d like to make….have you ever noticed have few post are on submitted on weekends as compared to during the week…seems like a lot a posters post from work during the week and take more care of family matters during the weekend….nothing wrong with that….I just wonder if others have noticed the drop in comments on weekends?

  72. Dustyroads says

    Steve, Yes, I’ve always noticed that. I just assume that most of the men who post here have learned the art of antique shopping with the wife on the weekend.

  73. Jeff says

    KCSO I say remembrance to all who are serving and those that served. Freedom is a privilege we must not forget those that sacrificed . Having a son on his first deployment I say to him thank you and all military who have served.

  74. So Krates says

    KCSO – Doesn’t the military industrial complex have enough holidays to glorify their actions? You gotta use Labor Day to get on your soap box on a coin forum? Do you know the purpose and meaning of Labor Day? Our Founding Fathers you mention would surely be opposed to the ridiculous number of FOBs and servicemen deployed overseas in peacetime not to mention the civilian mercenaries and Soldiers of Fortune on the payroll.. You talk about protecting Walmart operations but THIS holiday is about protecting the labor force at Walmart FROM the ultra-rich Walton family’s further exploitation. Not protecting Walmart’s profits from some imaginary terrorist lurking in the shadows.

  75. Dave SW FL says

    Thanks to all of us who work above the table, pay our taxes, and produce all that makes America great. That includes you mint workers👏👏👏👏

  76. earthling says

    Effigy Mounds? Effigy Mounds….. eff…. i… gy…. mounds.

    Of course !

    Effigy MOUNDS !

    Mounds Candy in an Animal Crackers shape. Tie it in with the NPS 100th, with prizes, contests, charities…. it all spells – W I N N A H !

    Hey the Mint is gonna win one way or the other .. with Kids and the future of Coin Collecting.

    And I can see a tie i with York PepperMint Patties also. Hey, they’re round.. like Coins.

    😉

  77. earthling says

    Yeah, Labor Day. Labor Day weekend. I’m working tonight x 12 hrs, Saturday 12hrs, don’t do Sundays anymore, and I’m doing 8 hrs on Monday. Could get 3X pay Monday but I’ll take 2X and a PAA Day, which is an anytime day off.

    I just got my 1937 Pf65 Buffalo in Rattler Holder and with Gold CAC Sticker, today. It’s a beauty but it wasn’t free. Got to do more OT.

  78. Yes, But...You Can't Take It With You says

    So Krates: I also hope that your done sermonizing. Now you can go bury your head back in the sand and pretend that our freedoms cost nothing and that there are no bad guys in the world. Or, join a football team and make your lame statements from the bench during the National Anthem.

  79. MT says

    Product Schedule Update: The date for the release of the Reagan C&C Set will be Tuesday, October 11th. No images or information on limits yet. I won’t be surprised to see limits of 50,000/2 (same as Kennedy set).

    There are now five TBD items remaining for 2016. One is the gold Walking Liberty Half, and the other four are products containing the proof or unc 30th anniversary ASE.

  80. A&L Futures says

    @ MT

    Thanks for the update. I’m rather surprised by the Mint’s decision to release the ASEs so late in the year.

  81. So Krates says

    @ Dave SW Fl. – If you check the record, the typical freedom/sacrifice sermon preceded my reality check about the actual holiday on Monday. I know you prefer sermons by convicted Watergate hatchet men (Chuck Colson) so go to BreakPoint and read his kooky Biblical worldview there.

    Yes But… – When you describe the situation as “bad guys around the world” it makes you sound like a simpleton who sees all in black and white with no grey. “You are either with us or against us.” You are the Perfect Receptacle for the MIC propaganda. Why does it burn you up that the dancing bear running around the field and getting hit for your entertainment won’t fall in line and sing your song when you say? He is exercising the freedom you talk about killing for and yet you can’t stand it. .

  82. says

    Blog –

    With an update thru mid-October, can anyone recall a time this year that once there’s been an update, that the mint has dropped any new releases in with the already established product schedule dates?

    If not, may imply that the remaining ASE will be late October releases at the earliest…

    That Congratulations set will sure be handy this year

  83. ABC says

    The 30th Anniversary Silver American Eagle Proof will be released on Sept 16th. I understand that it will have a smooth edge with some inscription on it rather than having a reeded edge. The mint doesn’t have any more info on this other than the release date. What other details do you guys have on this? Any info about the mintage?
    Also, does the mint still plan to keep the design of the ASE or will it be changing after this year? I really haven’t been reading up on the news on this one so I have to ask. Thanks for all your replies.

  84. MT says

    @KCSO — “That Congratulations set will sure be handy this year”
    I take it you’re being facetious due to the product’s end-of-year timing (i.e., not ideal for gift-giving occasions in 2016 when 2016 is almost over). Also, it’s being released this year after the availability of the individual proof ASE, which comes at a lower price and with nicer packaging. Not a bad candidate to drop from the schedule.

    @ABC — The 2016-dated ASE is the 30th Anniversary design containing a smooth edge with incused lettering. For 2017 and beyond, the normal reeded-edge design returns.

    Here is an image of the 2016 ASE that I haven’t seen before showing a good close-up of the lettering. I’m not a fan of edge lettering in general, but the positioning — centered just below the date — looks decent in this case.
    http://www.usmint.gov/slideshow_images/images/gallery/gallery_2.png

  85. Mint News Blog says

    @ Mattarch — I won’t be able to make it to the forum, unfortunately, but I’m hoping someone else from Whitman is able to go and share some information. — Dan

  86. MT says

    @Eddie — Yes, that 6 o’clock position is indeed where the edge lettering will be centered. The following is a detailed description from a Coin World article posted on 8/2/16:

    “The mandate for the edge design required special edge collar dies and tooling to be fabricated at the Philadelphia Mint to impart the edge inscription…. The inscription is imparted on the plain edge during the striking process, from one section of a tripartite, or three-piece, segmented collar. The three pieces of the collar engage together at the same time that the obverse and reverse dies come together with a blank planchet already fed between. The metal flows from the striking pressure into the edge collar, where the edge of the coin receives the imprint of the edge design, before the dies and edge collar retract.

    …the die alignment is such that the celebratory wording will appear in the same location on each coin struck — at the 6 o’clock position, relative to the date viewed on the coin’s obverse. The other two segments impart a plain edge.”

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