William Howard Taft Presidential Dollar Rolls, Bags, and Boxes

Today, July 9, 2013 at 12:00 Noon ET, the United States Mint began accepting orders for circulating quality 2013 William Howard Taft Presidential Dollars. These are available in an array of rolls, bags, and boxes containing examples of the coin with either the “P” or “D” mint mark.

William Howard Taft Presidential Dollar

The William Howard Taft Dollar features a portrait of the 27th President designed by Barbara Fox and engraved by Michael Guadioso. The surrounding inscriptions include his name, “In God We Trust”, the order of the Presidency, and the dates served “1909-1913”. The reverse design of the coin by Don Everhart features a rendition of the Statue of Liberty which has appeared in common for each issue of the series. The inscriptions include “United States of America” and the denomination expressed as “$1”.  Incused edge lettering contains the date, mint mark, and motto “E Pluribus Unum”.

This represents the third release of the series for this year and the twenty-seventh overall release for the series. Following the Treasury Department decision announced in late 2011, the new releases of the series are no longer produced for circulation. Rather they are only available within numismatic products offered by the United States Mint.

The products released today feature circulating quality coins packaged in 25-coin rolls priced at $32.95 each, 100-coin bags priced at $111.95, 250-coin boxes priced at $275.95 each, and 500-coin boxes priced at $550.95 each. Each option can be ordered containing coins with either the “P” or “D” mint mark. All products feature packaging which incorporates the name of the President, mint mark, and face value of the contents.

There are no stated product limits or household ordering limits. Previously published coin production figures indicate that the US Mint facility at Philadelphia has struck 4.76 million Taft Dollars, while the Denver Mint has struck 3.36 million. Until the close of the calendar year, it is still possible for the Mint to restart production of the coins.

Numismatic Gold and Platinum Product Price Decrease Possible

goldOnce again, the available data indicates that a price decrease is possible tomorrow for the US Mint’s numismatic gold and platinum products. Any potential change will remain largely dependent on the Wednesday PM prices for each metal.

Generally, pricing changes for gold and platinum products take place when the average London Fix price for the current weekly period moves into a higher or lower tier. However, as a secondary criteria, the Wednesday PM London Fix price must agree directionally with any change.

As was the case last week, the weekly average price for gold is in the $1,200 to $1,249.99 range and the average price for platinum is in the $1,300 to $1,349.99 range. These are each one tier lower than the pricing tiers currently in effect.

In order for a price decrease to take place for gold numismatic products, the Wednesday PM gold fix price must fall below $1,250. Similarly, for a decrease to take place for the single platinum product, the Wednesday PM platinum fix price must fall below $1,350. If the price decrease does occur, prices for impacted products would be reduced proportionally by $50 for each ounce of metal content.

As shown on the most recent weekly numismatic product sales report published today, recently sales have been slow across many categories. In addition to the typical summer slow down, some collectors may be waiting for the upcoming silver product price decrease and the potential price decrease for gold products.

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  1. Wdg5 says

    Im not holding my breath this week, likely to be disappointed with the price spike at the last second

  2. VARich says

    @ bill, fosnock, IPS, 2fr$ – just FYI – from the Philly call yesterday, just received a tracking number with a Fedex pick up last night @ 8 pm and its en route 🙂

  3. Eddie says

    @VARich
    You will not be disappointed with this set the enhanced ASE is by far the best one minted.

  4. Eddie says

    I hope the Mint does a Kennedy enhanced half. I really have no idea how they would do it but it would be great. A 6 to 8 coin set would be the bomb!!!

  5. Don says

    VARich,

    Nice going. That was pretty easy! I’m glad my initial posting helped you and the other guys out. Enjoy your sets. It seems like the Gift Shop still has a quantity of sets remaining.

  6. Eddie says

    @Jon in CT
    Do you think that means the 1st two 5 ozers will be reduced to $154.95? I guess this is a stupid question but heck who knows.

  7. Jon in CT says

    Eddie wrote on July 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm:
    @Jon in CT
    Do you think that means the 1st two 5 ozers will be reduced to $154.95? I guess this is a stupid question but heck who knows.

    Yes, their price will be reduced to $154.95 at noon on July 11, 2013. Details at;
    https://federalregister.gov/a/2013-16430

  8. Brad says

    Don,

    After realizing that the sets in Philly were ordered through the normal ordering process and not sales of “big boy” rejections, I ordered 3 West Point sets from there myself. It’s all thanks to your tip. My 5/9 order is still seemingly dead in the water, MAYBE shipping on 7/19. It’s so frustrating. But, now I will have a few sets in hand by the weekend most likely. So, as others have said here before, you rock!

  9. high low silver says

    I would love to give my present PT job to a vet……I don’t need it or desire the hours !!!

  10. Don says

    Brad,

    I’m glad that I added you to the list of guys that I helped out with my posting. Enjoy!

  11. VA Bob says

    Eddie – I don’t believe the enhanced effect would work too well on a Kennedy half. Not many small details to enhance.

  12. ClevelandRocks says

    OK, the Mint is messing with me.
    Alice Paul proof on backorder again….
    This time I think a sell-out will happen soon.

  13. Brad says

    Cleveland,

    Maybe my cancelling the one I ordered threw the Mint for a temporary loop! Maybe I’ll re-order if the price goes down tomorrow.

  14. Jerry Diekmann says

    The subject is William Howard Taft and nary a blog about him. Any why not? Like over one-half of our presidents, he accomplished nothing in his presidency and is better off forgotten, except for installing a supersize bathtub in the White House because he was so obese. And he came in THIRD in running for re-election in 1912. How’s that for an incumbent president? Whose crazy idea was it anyway to mint these stupid coins? Next year it will be even worse with Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover. Their incompetence led this country into the Great Depression. And we honor these men? Can’t wait for coins on Nixon and Ford.

  15. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    on the contrary, at least as far as his likeness on the coin Taft is the dandy looking president. lots of ladies esp pretty ones, like a little heavy set Probably had a lot of ladies in his company

  16. merryxmasmrscrooge says

    im just waiting for the GWB $1 that will be minted after he passes away in 2046 at 100 yrs old. Only the good die young

  17. VARich says

    @ Jerry D – thanks for the morning chuckle & token comment on Taft, now we can get back to other more pressing topics!

    Whose crazy idea was it anyway to mint these stupid coins? – Congress, ‘nough said!

  18. VARich says

    I’m seeing where Ag punched through $1250 early this morning, so I guess to price reduction this week. Oh well, we still have 30 more days before the big buff event

  19. Hawkster says

    Jerry,

    Maybe next year, with Harding, Coolidge, and Hoover, the Mint should just produce tokens. If there was ever a year to skip, as far as buying the Presidential coins, 2014 would be it.

  20. george glazener says

    Just bought my Taft dollars. Not from the MINT, but from an eBay store. $69.90 grand total for one each P+D, heads+tails rolls. All in original MINT wrappers.
    Pretty good savings over buying from the USMINT.

    Quartersareus@aol.com is how you can reach them.

    Also, I hit a cache of brand new Great Basin NP quarters at a Subway in Newport, RI last week. Blew my mind, so I cleaned out the guy’s cash drawer of all I could get.

  21. says

    Despite personally liking Taft and planning on getting a $250 coin box, I expect the sales of these coins to be fairly poor given Taft’s unpopularity. He only seems to be remembered for his weight. I am not really surprised no one is talking about the coins.

    Jerry,

    While the next set of presidents (excepting FDR) are unpopular, I think as we get into the “modern” presidents like Kennedy we will see an uptick in interest for their coins. I also am expecting the Jackie Kennedy FS coin to do somewhat better than most of the rest of the series.

  22. Fosnock says

    All this Taft bashing from people who believe in hard currencies. When the bankers (Money Trust) came to him to setup the Fed he laughed in their faces, so they backed Roosevelt to split the party so their patsy Wilson could get elected and pass the Federal Reserve act.

    @Don – You rock (sorry high low but no room is involved)

  23. Ray says

    The only FS coin I’m planning to buy is Jackie Kennedy. I havent bought any presidential dollar rolls, but i will be for some of the more modern presidents

  24. Dan in Fla says

    Looks like no drop in PM prices this week. Glad I bit the bullet and purchased another burnished gold eagle. The first one was damaged so I sent it back and saved $100 in the meantime.
    America is way fatter now than it was when Taft was President. I wish I could bathe in that roomy tub.

  25. Jack says

    @VARich Which FedEx service does the gift shop ship by? Ground or one of the Express services (Express Saver, 2Day or one of the overnight ones)

  26. VARich says

    @ Don – Yes Sir, it was easy! The ironic humor in it is this.., it arrived early this morning at Dulles which is two miles away from the office – and I’ve been getting these time/location alerts as it bounces around through their sorting facility…, it’s driving me nuts. I might have to go over there to help them sort! Though an extra day is so much better than a month or two!

    @ Jack – estimated delivery is Friday with a Monday night pickup, though I’m thinking it’ll show tomorrow unless I can smooze it out today, so 2 day perhaps?

    @ 2fr$ – I went back and checked that 29 Jun posting from Ferdie.., don’t know how I missed that one, didn’t see where anyone really commented on it either. Talk about a stealth posting – think it got lost in the 5:30 pm happy hour time of that day. But yes, thanks Ferdie for sharing!

  27. GMS says

    @george glazener : I checked out the seller you refer to and could not find any Taft Dollars for sale or completed associated with their store. Also, I might add the the current and completed rolls they have listed sell for 35.99 on the low end up to 39.95 on the high, that’s 71.98-79.90 for a pair, hardly the cheapest. These rolls sell for 27.50 a roll from the mint when purchased by the 10 count box I might add.

  28. ultra-crepidarian says

    @ Jerry Diekmann

    Taft needed a special tub because he was so fat that when he took a shower his feet would stayed dry. Seriously, Taft was the only president that was the same height if he was standing up or lying down. Taft was so fat that the US Mint initially thought that they would have to develop a $2 coin to put his image on. I could go on.

    Today people like Taft would NEVER be elected president. Now we vote for our politicians based on coolness and good looks rather than competence. … How is that working out for us?

    By the way (so no one is offended) , I am so fat that Taft would like to hang out with me so people would differentiate us by calling HIM the skinny one.

  29. ann says

    Trashing long time past presidents seems funny when I look at the last few
    presidents this country of ours has had!

  30. Hawkster says

    ultra-crepidarian,

    I’ll add one: Taft was so fat the Mint is considering a special convex presidential coin to get his entire image on.

  31. Jack says

    @VARich, if you have a tracking number, look it up on FedEx.com and look under where it says service type. That will tell you what service they used. I’m just curious because I’m one that is constantly checking on shipment statuses and the exact service and day I will get my stuff delivered.

  32. Wdg5 says

    Sorry to bleat, but this upcoming Girls scout collectors set makes no sense at all; all they are doing is putting the uncirculated coin in this folder and calling it a “collectors set”. A Nobel prize for ingenuousness is due for the Einstein who conceived this “grand idea”.

  33. Dan in Fla says

    The Great Basin 5 ounce coin will be released 7/25/13 according to their list.

  34. george glazener says

    @GMS;

    Try e-mailing them directly. Doug & Shirley Penner are their names. I’ve been getting all my President Rolls from them this year, and they treat me fine. Like I said, you get a heads+tails roll for $34.95, and free shipping. Native American Dollars too. When you communicate by e-mail, they send you a Paypal invoice, and you just complete the transaction. It’s not an eBay per se, but works just like one. Anyway, I haven’t been burned by them at all.

  35. Dan in Fla says

    The Girl Scout collector set is at a reduced rate. Its actually $1.00 cheaper then the UNC coin. That U S Mint is so sneaky.

  36. Rich2 says

    @Wdg5
    The GS collectors set is probably geared towards the parents of the 2million+ Girl Scouts is the USA. I know I am going to pick one up for my little Brownie. Limited to 50k; it may just sell out…(‘Shirley you can’t be serious’)

    All kidding aside I didn’t purchase the previously issued coins because I did not think either would appeal to her. But this young collectors set most certainly will….hopefully I can spark some interest in coin collecting. I think the mint is trying to do the same.

  37. Dustyroads says

    FOMC meets and assures all of more of the same and hopes of lower tier prices become dashed. We were so close to that reduction!!!

  38. VABEACHBUM says

    @ Rich2 – I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley!!!

    I picked up a couple of the 2008 “Bald Eagle” Young Collector Sets for my God Son and God Daughter, who were 8 & 9 at the time. They were well done; colorful and capable of drawing a child’s attention to the subject and to the coin collecting hobby. Five years later, they continue to show an interest in the hobby, and always are asking about what I have added to my collection.

    If the Mint followed a similar tact with this set, I have to believe your Brownie will love it!

  39. thePhelps says

    The young collectors set would be nice – if the coin they put in it was a great coin. I found the design totally lacking. They opted not to use a lot of creative designs. I usually buy the young collectors sets from the mint, but I am going to buy this one on the secondary market – if I buy it at all.

  40. GMS says

    @george glazener: Thanks for the info, since we sell on eBay too it’s nice to know who is cheating the system and how. As I said, we pay 27.50 a roll and buy the $250.00 box. I’ll be sure and pass the info on to the folks at eBay.

  41. Don says

    VaRich,

    You’re right. The poster, “Ferdie”, should get the credit for first alerting MintNewsBlog readers about the availability of the West Point sets at the Philly Gift Shop. And, I too found it a bit strange that his June 29 posting did not elicit a flood of follow-up comments. Talk about being overlooked!
    Based on Ferdie’s posting, several days later I decided to call the Gift Shop to confirm that they actually had the sets. Fortunately, my posting, which included the information that they ship the sets (as well as other Mint products) got a good response. I assume that several Blog readers have now bought sets from Philly (Aramark).

  42. fmtransmitter says

    Off Taft topic but on the US Mint’s FIRST EVER concave coin. Seems the Mint “found” some extra semi-finalists for the coin design and there are now 26 of them. Thought I would share the link for others to view. They can be seen here: http://batterup.challenge.gov/submissions
    Not sure how popular this series will be but am looking forward to owning a first ever concave coin from the US Mint. Cheers!

  43. wdg5 says

    @FM, thanks for sharing the link.
    I instantly fell in love with the design labeled “The Proud American Classic” Gosh how I would love to see a coin like that released.

  44. george glazener says

    @GMS;
    I’m not sure what the problem is with what they do. But I’m not a vendor, just a collector. Are they doing something wrong by selling rolls at $34.95…?

  45. JohnT58 says

    If Aramark did indeed go through the regular ordering process for the WP sets, why are they selling them at their purchase price? Something doesn’t add up.

  46. Don says

    VARich:

    You mean to say that the Eagle still has not landed? I’m not a fan of Fed Ex. They have botched deliveries to my address on more than one occasion. I cringe whenever I’m expecting a FedEx package. UPS, in my case, has always been much more reliable.

  47. Don says

    JohnT58,

    I’m thinking that Aramark, being the Mint’s concessionaire, gets a percentage discount on their orders. Otherwise, how would they realize any profits?

  48. JohnT58 says

    Don,
    I would agree that is the case for their “regular” coins. However, it was stated earlier in this thread that Aramark went through the same ordering process as everyone else to obtain these WP sets. To me, that makes no sense. Just wondering if the mint is somehow using Aramark to play outside their rules.

  49. Don says

    JohnT58,

    Yes, one of the posters ascertained, through his phone conversation with an Aramark representative at Philly, that Aramark went through the same ordering process as you and I for the WP sets. But, there still remains the possibility that, because they are the Mint’s concessionaire, Aramark gets a special discount on all the orders it places. It would sure be interesting to find out the answer to this. I would think that the Mint gives Aramark some type of incentive to sell their products.

  50. stephen m says

    Aramark must only be an extension of the US Mint. Unusual and interesting things can and do happen with government contractors.

  51. Ak Bob says

    I received an email backfrom the mint as I had emailed to complain about the shipping of the WP sets. They told me they had shipped out 45,000 sets. I was very surprised. I thought they had at least 150,000 sets ready for shipment prior ro the sets becoming available for ordering for some reason. I may be mistaken about that. However, if 3 or 4 BIG coin tv shows/dealers made huge orders and they ordered first then they would get the bulk of the sets that were available. They should have had a household limit the first week so that thousands of us regular customers would receive our sets in a timely manner and that way many folks would have sets instead of only a few customers that ordered ten of thousands. The mint did say it was, “first in, first out”. I wonder if the big guys even had to call in the day it became available or do they have special privileges???? Just a thought

  52. ann says

    I spoke to the mint yesterday about returning a poor condition W. Perry 5 oz and
    asked about delay with the WP sets. I was told the hold up is not having enough of the packaging.

  53. Ak Bob says

    Sounds like you get a different story depending on who you talk to. It’s just very sad that the mint could be this clueless.

  54. Jack says

    @VARich Yup you must have gotten the annoying “package not due for delivery”. One of the most annoying things about FedEx. Because Express Saver is a 3 day service, and the packages travel by plane, packages are often a day early, so they slap package not due for delivery on the tracking and wait a day. Still better then ground though, because ground often takes 4-5 days.

  55. fmtransmitter says

    @wdg5: Your welcome! I really like that design as well. What I am thinking when I view them is what will look best in concave form. I am an artist and view things in a different way than most. I will be tuning in to see the finalists…

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